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Mar 24, 2023 15:28:16   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
billlingle wrote:
You all seem to thing that gender changing surgery, puberty blockers, hormone therapy and everything else imaginable is an every day procedure and that kids are encouraged to "give it a try". It is a serious matter. It is very real. It is taken very seriously and it is common for individuals to go through long periods, sometimes years, of counseling and evaluation before procedures begin, recognizing the seriousness and the permanence of the decision. It is an OMG balloon being floated up by the "horror squads" on the right wing to fill the news space that the rest of the world is giving to the case of Donald Trump and his being held responsible for his actions. By the way Evan Corcoran spent 3 hours today in front of the Jack Smith grand jury being questioned on the source of the information on which he based his false statement about the classified documents stashed at Mar a Lago. Maybe Smith will even beat Bragg and Willis as to who will be the first to indict a former president. Turn on Faux Snooze if you don't want to hear about it.
You all seem to thing that gender changing surgery... (show quote)


Who else has noticed that this BS was not a problem when we grew up?
"You all seem to thing that gender changing surgery, puberty blockers, hormone therapy and everything else imaginable is an every day procedure and that kids are encouraged to "give it a try""

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Mar 24, 2023 15:44:56   #
billlingle
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Who else has noticed that this BS was not a problem when we grew up?
"You all seem to thing that gender changing surgery, puberty blockers, hormone therapy and everything else imaginable is an every day procedure and that kids are encouraged to "give it a try""



The biggest reason is that it is no longer being swept under the rug like so many other things were in the past.
Did you ever have or know anyone who had a "maiden aunt" who just never found the "right guy" that now just lives with a "friend" who is in the same "unfortunate" situation?
Remember the "weird" kid in school that everyone bullied because he or she was "just different"?
How about the countries where homosexuality warrants a death sentence? How about those places where adultery (if you are a woman) warrants stoning or "honor killing".
It's amazing what horrors can be perpetrated or justified and what outrage is expressed based on who loves who and how they express it while bombing cities to ruin, opening up with an automatic weapon in a room full of people or murdering 5 year olds in a kindergarten is seen as bad things that are inevitable in today's world.

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Mar 24, 2023 15:48:49   #
billlingle
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Billie;
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, what else may it be?

WOKE:
A Divine absence of Common Sense, Shame or CIVIL MORALITY....
ALSO an incredible propensity for naivete and laziness....
ANTIFA, BLM, and the LBGTQ are all LOWER LEVELS of "WOKE" movement...
Their "FINANCIERS" and 'OWNERS" like GEORGE SOROS and BILL GATES
MANEUVER and SACRIFICE these PAWNS as necessary while they continue trying to destroy our Great Nation.....
ALL THESE INDIVIDUALS are considered to be QUITE DISPOSABLE....
For THAT REASON they've been Nicknamed "PAWNS".....
People of the "WOKE" persuasion are usually considered to be
"SOCIALISTS" at BEST.........
"MARXIST" or COMMUNIST for the more stupid.... er.... violent Pawns.....
Truth is....
BECOMING WOKE IS ONLY A LARGE SCALE "PSY-OP" (Like COVID-19)
INTENDED TO ALLOW THE NEW WORLD ORDER TO ATTEMPT TO DISSOLVE THE
UNITED STATES of AMERICA !!!.....
And THEN...
KILL OFF THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF THE WORLD ANYWAY....!!!!
Except....
Those of us lucky enough to be spared....
To live the rest of YOUR LIVES in SERVITUDE.....
Billie; br If it looks like a duck and quacks like... (show quote)



You forgot MAGA

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Mar 24, 2023 15:58:36   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
billlingle wrote:
You forgot MAGA


I ask again!
Who else has noticed that this BS was not a problem when we grew up?
"You all seem to thing that gender changing surgery, puberty blockers, hormone therapy and everything else imaginable is an every day procedure and that kids are encouraged to "give it a try""

Could those in charge of Liberal educating be part of the fault?

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Mar 24, 2023 16:11:32   #
billlingle
 
eagleye13 wrote:
I ask again!
Who else has noticed that this BS was not a problem when we grew up?
"You all seem to thing that gender changing surgery, puberty blockers, hormone therapy and everything else imaginable is an every day procedure and that kids are encouraged to "give it a try""

Could those in charge of Liberal educating be part of the fault?




I wrote a response to your original question about 10 minutes ago. I hope that you receive it.

An education where issues are discussed openly and freely regardless of how electrifying they may be or how much the conclusions might disagree with previously held concepts conducted in conjunction with math, science, literature, history (all of it), sociology and philosophy has never really been shown as the source of an actual problem. "educations" where the subject matter is "approved" and where "problematic" parts of various courses of study are omitted, however, result in stilted ignorance that can cause a lot of problems.

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Mar 24, 2023 17:44:04   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
billlingle wrote:
No. No one else would either and the few lunatics that would would be very hard pressed to find anyone who would perform such a surgery. If they did it would be that surgeon's last procedure. Whoever told you that such things were happening is simply lying to you. You need to ask them what benefit they think they will derive from you believing such nonsense.


You need some new news sources. It IS happening. It HAS happened. Admittedly it is rare, but once is too many. Do some research into former trans who now deeply regret that their parents let them have gender surgery. If it is not happening, then why are Democrats fighting laws to stop it, and why are hospitals and some doctors offering the service?

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Mar 24, 2023 17:52:19   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
billlingle wrote:
You write as if you believe that these decisions are made because everyone, somehow, has an option. That is simply not true. There is a good reason that it has never occurred to you (?). The reason that it has come up with the individuals that are confronted with this mind bending, life changing situation is very real and is not something, I'm sure, that anyone would choose to impose upon themselves on a whim.
I have raised children from birth to adulthood and to parenthood without ever encountering anything even remotely related to these matters as have almost everyone else who has had children. Those that are having to face these situations through no fault of their own should be left to work it out with their doctors, psychologists, psychiatrists and medical professionals. The last thing that they need is the opinions much less the laws being passed by the grossly uninformed to add to the mental anguish that they are already experiencing.
You write as if you believe that these decisions a... (show quote)


I agree .....IF it is a mental issue. But when educators, school boards, and teachers all the way down to kindergarten are on a sharp look out for ANY signs of transgender kids, and indeed are pushing and encouraging kids, in way too many cases, to be gender fluid WITHOUT discussing it with parents, then it is time for laws to be passed. Not to forbid such surgeries in ALL cases, but to make absolutely sure such a drastic step is what the minor wants and needs for mental health.
Unlike you, I have some experience in working with mentally and emotionally confused children. Almost 50 years of experience, so while not a professional, I DO have some knowledge of such situations.

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Mar 24, 2023 18:18:57   #
Mikeyavelli
 
woodguru wrote:
Definition...
1...Awakened to the needs of others. To be well informed, thoughtful, compassionate, humble, and kind. Eager to make the world a better place for all people...
2...the opposite of MAGA


Wokeflake.
That means far left kommiecrat.
Self loathing America hating lazy overly sensitive myrmidons.

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Mar 24, 2023 18:22:24   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
RandyBrian wrote:
I agree .....IF it is a mental issue. But when educators, school boards, and teachers all the way down to kindergarten are on a sharp look out for ANY signs of transgender kids, and indeed are pushing and encouraging kids, in way too many cases, to be gender fluid WITHOUT discussing it with parents, then it is time for laws to be passed. Not to forbid such surgeries in ALL cases, but to make absolutely sure such a drastic step is what the minor wants and needs for mental health.
Unlike you, I have some experience in working with mentally and emotionally confused children. Almost 50 years of experience, so while not a professional, I DO have some knowledge of such situations.
I agree .....IF it is a mental issue. But when ed... (show quote)

This is not a topic to be discussed in any K-12 educational system.

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Mar 24, 2023 19:03:28   #
Lily
 
woodguru wrote:
Definition...
1...Awakened to the needs of others. To be well informed, thoughtful, compassionate, humble, and kind. Eager to make the world a better place for all people...
2...the opposite of MAGA


Truthfully, for those of you progressives, woke is defined as:
https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/03/its-not-hard-to-define-wokeness-if-youre-honest/


The Woke Ideology

In fact, it is not hard to define “woke.” Wokeness represents both an ideology and a philosophical worldview. It has five core elements:
1. Woke ideology elevates immutable identity-group membership over the individual.
2. Woke ideology obsesses over hierarchies among identity groups.
3. Woke ideology is all-encompassing in interpreting human interactions through the lens of identity-group hierarchy.
4. Woke ideology is revolutionary in arguing that its preferred hierarchies must supplant current hierarchies.
5. Woke ideology aims to be constantly evolving rather than a fixed doctrine.

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Mar 24, 2023 21:14:19   #
Ricktloml
 
RandyBrian wrote:
3. To demand and force compliance against anyone who does not agree with any given belief of the moment.
4. To hold people accountable TODAY for mistakes that took place years or decades ago.
5. To believe that the sum of a person is defined ONLY by what he/she says or does that you disagree with.
6. To embrace hatred and violence as the just and deserved response to any noncompliance to the mob mentality.




Well, at least there's one thing that's right...it is the opposite of MAGA

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Mar 24, 2023 23:16:25   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
JR-57 wrote:
This is not a topic to be discussed in any K-12 educational system.


I absolutely agree. If a teacher notices something, the FIRST thing to do is contact the parents, then document the circumstances with their superiors. After that, it is none of the school systems business.

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Mar 24, 2023 23:33:22   #
Rose42
 
RandyBrian wrote:
I agree .....IF it is a mental issue. But when educators, school boards, and teachers all the way down to kindergarten are on a sharp look out for ANY signs of transgender kids, and indeed are pushing and encouraging kids, in way too many cases, to be gender fluid WITHOUT discussing it with parents, then it is time for laws to be passed. Not to forbid such surgeries in ALL cases, but to make absolutely sure such a drastic step is what the minor wants and needs for mental health.
Unlike you, I have some experience in working with mentally and emotionally confused children. Almost 50 years of experience, so while not a professional, I DO have some knowledge of such situations.
I agree .....IF it is a mental issue. But when ed... (show quote)


There is no sound reason why this surgery should be performed on a minor.

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Mar 24, 2023 23:56:07   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Rose42 wrote:
There is no sound reason why this surgery should be performed on a minor.


You may be correct. Just because I have never heard of such a reason does not mean one can not exist, though.

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Mar 25, 2023 04:45:27   #
WEBCO
 
JR-57 wrote:
This is not a topic to be discussed in any K-12 educational system.


K-8 for sure

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