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Mar 23, 2023 11:29:05   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Kevyn has always been anti-Jew, pro Muslim.


Israelis hate the Jews , no not hate ,
Tolerate.

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Mar 23, 2023 11:49:39   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Kevyn wrote:
The largest recipient of US foreign aid is Israel. At this juncture, the Israeli government is ramming through laws that will destroy its independent judiciary this will effectively replace their democracy with an apartheid dictatorship. Israel is a wealthy nation whose citizens enjoy benefits Americans don’t such as world-class universal health care and yet we are pouring money into the nation. This change will mean Israel will no longer be a beacon of western values and no better than their neighbors. Should President Biden tell Netanyahu that US aid will end if he destroys the independent judiciary and continues settlement activity so Palestinian land?
The largest recipient of US foreign aid is Israel.... (show quote)


Really, I think Ukraine only fights, because of Biden's financial support. And if they don't want to, they face severe consequences from Zelensky.

And your Israel comments are also totally wrong. Israel's Supreme Courts are overruling the people's choice of Bibi and control of their nation because there are no longer any checks and balances between the three branches of Government. Not very democratic.

All because they don't have a written Constitution. Their Supreme Court is trying to control everything. Their Judiciary is no longer 1/3rd of their government. They now want control of everything.

But nice try, American Lefty, and life-long foe to America. You're going to soon lose America and Israel. You guys sure love death and only cause wars. You suck as a proud American. How is your arrest of Trump going?

You're smart people know your losing. You're just a crash test dummy and are at the bottom of your side's food chain. They'll sacrifice your types, first. You even used Bibi's words against him. Proving once again, you don't know how to research very much without giving it a left-wing spin, but you might be a good pool player. If you're good at anything.

Your side only knows how to sell fear and lies. But Trump has exposed you and now you're losing big time. You were also, always a minority. That's why you have to cheat to win. And Trump and decent Americans are kicking your butts. How is your digital dollar doing? Not so good, and if you lose that battle, you can't control anyone anymore.

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Mar 23, 2023 11:53:43   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Kevyn wrote:
The largest recipient of US foreign aid is Israel. At this juncture the Israeli government is ramming through laws that will destroy its independent judiciary this will effectively replace their democracy with an apartheid dictatorship. Israel is a wealthy nation who’s citizens enjoy benefits Americans don’t such as world class universal health care and yet we are pouring money into the nation. This change will mean Israel will no longer be a beacon of western values and no better than their neighbors. Should President Biden tell Netanyahu US aid will end if he destroys the independent judiciary and continues settlement activity so Palestinian land?
The largest recipient of US foreign aid is Israel.... (show quote)


We should continue to support Israel as they are our strongest ally in the middle east . We should also support a free Palestinian state and continue negotiations to stop the seizure of Palestinian lands as a path for peace. It is a tough situation but continued support of Israel is the right thing to do.

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Mar 23, 2023 11:56:34   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Peewee wrote:
Really, I think Ukraine only fights, because of Biden's financial support. And if they don't want to, they face severe consequences from Zelensky.

And your Israel comments are also totally wrong. Israel's Supreme Courts are overruling the people's choice of Bibi and control of their nation because there are no longer any checks and balances between the three branches of Government. Not very democratic.

All because they don't have a written Constitution. Their Supreme Court is trying to control everything. Their Judiciary is no longer 1/3rd of their government. They now want control of everything.

But nice try, American Lefty, and life-long foe to America. You're going to soon lose America and Israel. You guys sure love death and only cause wars. You suck as a proud American. How is your arrest of Trump going?

You're smart people know your losing. You're just a crash test dummy and are at the bottom of your side's food chain. They'll sacrifice your types, first. You even used Bibi's words against him. Proving once again, you don't know how to research very much without giving it a left-wing spin, but you might be a good pool player. If you're good at anything.

Your side only knows how to sell fear and lies. But Trump has exposed you and now you're losing big time. You were also, always a minority. That's why you have to cheat to win. And Trump and decent Americans are kicking your butts. How is your digital dollar doing? Not so good, and if you lose that battle, you can't control anyone anymore.
Really, I think Ukraine only fights, because of Bi... (show quote)



👏👏👏👏👏 A tip of the Hatlo Hat.

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Mar 23, 2023 12:55:05   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Kevyn wrote:
Their is nothing in my post that is antisemitic, millions of Jewish Israelis are protesting in the street to stop the attack on Israel’s respected court system. I am anti fascism, anti dictatorship and anti apartheid.


I have always wondered why they didn't return to Israel after it became a nation. Now I know. All Jews aren't real Jews. And if they are, some love the Babylon system more. Because they support Israel's enemies more. Too bad, because Jesus is coming soon. The Sanhedrin paid Judas thirty pieces of silver to betray Jesus and he did. Then they held court under the darkness of night, also illegal. Then they changed the charges from blasphemy to a charge Rome would support, Insurrection.

God sent Jesus on a suicide mission, if He was obedient He had to die on the cross. Poor dumb Satan never expected that. Jesus's blood covers sin. For all those willing to kiss the Son of God and believe in Him. Trump is fixing America and Bibi is fixing Israel. And the Abrahamic Accords are working like a charm. The middle east is turning into nice people again. And China has brokered a peace deal between Iran and Saudi Arabia. The children of Abraham are coming back together. Both Isaac and Ishmael. Some bad guys still need removing though.

One other thing Kev accidentally omitted on purpose was, Palestinians are building illegally in Judea and Samaria along with open sewers. Jews aren't allowed to do that. Another two-tier justice system is designed to start problems and wars. But the biggest is Abbas paying the Palestinian families for the killing of Jews. And he's education system promotes the killing of Jews, also. So Abbas is responsible for what is happening to Palestinians.
Both are from Egypt, then Syria, how were Arafat and Abbas allowed to settle and grow stronger in Israel? All they ever did was cause trouble. Egypt kicked them out, Syria kicked them out, and Israel lets them stay? That's very suspicious. Just saying. It had to be God's plan or man's plan. Nothing else makes any sense.

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Mar 23, 2023 15:20:38   #
Sonny Magoo Loc: Where pot pie is boiled in a kettle
 
Kevyn wrote:
The largest recipient of US foreign aid is Israel. At this juncture the Israeli government is ramming through laws that will destroy its independent judiciary this will effectively replace their democracy with an apartheid dictatorship. Israel is a wealthy nation who’s citizens enjoy benefits Americans don’t such as world class universal health care and yet we are pouring money into the nation. This change will mean Israel will no longer be a beacon of western values and no better than their neighbors. Should President Biden tell Netanyahu US aid will end if he destroys the independent judiciary and continues settlement activity so Palestinian land?
The largest recipient of US foreign aid is Israel.... (show quote)


Jews are among the most racist.
They practically invented the concept.
Even today we're constantly reminded that they are "God's chosen people, and you are not" so anything said shall be positive and worthy. You antisemitic trash.

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Mar 23, 2023 16:05:56   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
We should continue to support Israel as they are our strongest ally in the middle east . We should also support a free Palestinian state and continue negotiations to stop the seizure of Palestinian lands as a path for peace. It is a tough situation but continued support of Israel is the right thing to do.


***We should also support a free Palestinian state and continue negotiations to stop the seizure of Palestinian lands as a path for peace.
>>>IMO the Palestinians should get all the land they now reside in and all of the settlements as their state. The Israelis that live in the new state of Palestine would become Palestinians and give up their Israeli citizenship or leave. Those that stay would get similar status as to what the Arabs/Palestinians living in Israel now enjoy or have to put up with. All Jerusalem to the east becomes Palestine and all Jerusalem to the west stays Israeli. The old city become an independent country sort of like the Vatican and the equal protectors of Muslim, Christian and Jewish holy sites, for access controls, respect of, preservation and profit. The Gaza strip becomes independent and not blockaded and all attacks against Israel, subject to severe counter attacks.

Logically Right

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Mar 23, 2023 18:41:15   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
***We should also support a free Palestinian state and continue negotiations to stop the seizure of Palestinian lands as a path for peace.
>>>IMO the Palestinians should get all the land they now reside in and all of the settlements as their state. The Israelis that live in the new state of Palestine would become Palestinians and give up their Israeli citizenship or leave. Those that stay would get similar status as to what the Arabs/Palestinians living in Israel now enjoy or have to put up with. All Jerusalem to the east becomes Palestine and all Jerusalem to the west stays Israeli. The old city become an independent country sort of like the Vatican and the equal protectors of Muslim, Christian and Jewish holy sites, for access controls, respect of, preservation and profit. The Gaza strip becomes independent and not blockaded and all attacks against Israel, subject to severe counter attacks.

Logically Right
***We should also support a free Palestinian state... (show quote)


We have similar solutions...

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Mar 23, 2023 18:54:44   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
We have similar solutions...


It is all about being fair

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Mar 23, 2023 19:00:56   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Kevyn wrote:
The largest recipient of US foreign aid is Israel. At this juncture the Israeli government is ramming through laws that will destroy its independent judiciary this will effectively replace their democracy with an apartheid dictatorship. Israel is a wealthy nation who’s citizens enjoy benefits Americans don’t such as world class universal health care and yet we are pouring money into the nation. This change will mean Israel will no longer be a beacon of western values and no better than their neighbors. Should President Biden tell Netanyahu US aid will end if he destroys the independent judiciary and continues settlement activity so Palestinian land?
The largest recipient of US foreign aid is Israel.... (show quote)


i would like to add to my previous comment--I think it is wonderful that Israeli citizens enjoy universal healthcare and we should not resent it. We should take their example and do the same in this country.

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Mar 23, 2023 19:01:31   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
***We should also support a free Palestinian state and continue negotiations to stop the seizure of Palestinian lands as a path for peace.
>>>IMO the Palestinians should get all the land they now reside in and all of the settlements as their state. The Israelis that live in the new state of Palestine would become Palestinians and give up their Israeli citizenship or leave. Those that stay would get similar status as to what the Arabs/Palestinians living in Israel now enjoy or have to put up with. All Jerusalem to the east becomes Palestine and all Jerusalem to the west stays Israeli. The old city become an independent country sort of like the Vatican and the equal protectors of Muslim, Christian and Jewish holy sites, for access controls, respect of, preservation and profit. The Gaza strip becomes independent and not blockaded and all attacks against Israel, subject to severe counter attacks.

Logically Right
***We should also support a free Palestinian state... (show quote)



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Mar 23, 2023 19:02:57   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
i would like to add to my previous comment--I think it is wonderful that Israeli citizens enjoy universal healthcare and we should not resent it. We should take their example and do the same in this country.


Who is going to give the US the money for that???

Also, Israeli citizens are required to serve time in the military... Are not healthcare and education provided to Americans who serve???

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Mar 23, 2023 22:33:23   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Who is going to give the US the money for that???

Also, Israeli citizens are required to serve time in the military... Are not healthcare and education provided to Americans who serve???


We pay taxes-- not just on our earnings--hell we pay excise tax--property taxes--some of us pay state tax or sales tax or both. Every thing we buy has been taxed and the people who made them were taxed . Every time a dollar bill exchanges hands in a business setting it becomes profit and it is taxed. That is a lot of constant revenue being generated and filling our treasury department . The key is it takes the leadership and desire of our Senators and representatives to give healthcare the attention it needs to become reality . I was subject to the Draft my senior year in high school . It ended in my age group . I have nothing against serving our country in fact I encourage it .

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Mar 23, 2023 22:44:13   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
We pay taxes-- not just on our earnings--hell we pay excise tax--property taxes--some of us pay state tax or sales tax or both. Every thing we buy has been taxed and the people who made them were taxed . Every time a dollar bill exchanges hands in a business setting it becomes profit and it is taxed. That is a lot of constant revenue being generated and filling our treasury department . The key is it takes the leadership and desire of our Senators and representatives to give healthcare the attention it needs to become reality . I was subject to the Draft my senior year in high school . It ended in my age group . I have nothing against serving our country in fact I encourage it .
We pay taxes-- not just on our earnings--hell we p... (show quote)


My point was that Israel can afford universal healthcare and free education because it receives money from the US and other nations...

And then it requires certain actions from its citizens...

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Mar 23, 2023 23:00:39   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
***We should also support a free Palestinian state and continue negotiations to stop the seizure of Palestinian lands as a path for peace.
>>>IMO the Palestinians should get all the land they now reside in and all of the settlements as their state. The Israelis that live in the new state of Palestine would become Palestinians and give up their Israeli citizenship or leave. Those that stay would get similar status as to what the Arabs/Palestinians living in Israel now enjoy or have to put up with. All Jerusalem to the east becomes Palestine and all Jerusalem to the west stays Israeli. The old city become an independent country sort of like the Vatican and the equal protectors of Muslim, Christian and Jewish holy sites, for access controls, respect of, preservation and profit. The Gaza strip becomes independent and not blockaded and all attacks against Israel, subject to severe counter attacks.

Logically Right
***We should also support a free Palestinian state... (show quote)
300 million Muslims live on 3 million square miles of land surrounding 8 million Israelis (Jews) living on 8000 square miles of land.

Seems to me that 300 million Muslims with so much land could allot a bit of it to accommodate 9 million Muslims called Palestinians. With all the necessary religious, cultural and political policies already in place, it wouldn't be tough for them to establish a "Palestinian state".

Hamas, a designated terrorist organization and the governing authority of the Palestinians, is a proxy of Iran.
If any country should offer the Palestinians a permanent refuge, it would be Iran.

Sounds doable, but there's one major problem.
The Jew hating Muslims (Iranians, Hamas, Palestinians and a host of others are not shopping for real estate,
they are working on the "final solution to the Jewish problem".

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