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Pence grows a pair...'History will hold Donald Trump accountable' for Jan. 6, Pence says
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Mar 13, 2023 11:34:13   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
popscott wrote:
“I had no right to overturn the election"
The electoral count act of 1887..... he did have the "right to overturn the election"

The Electoral Count Act has been criticized since it was enacted, with an early commenter describing it as "very confused, almost unintelligible."  Modern commenters have stated that the law "invites misinterpretation", observing that it is "turgid and repetitious", and that "its central provisions seem contradictory."

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Mar 13, 2023 12:05:37   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
eden wrote:
Who would have thunk it?


U.S. NEWS

MARCH 11, 2023 / 11:46 PM

'History will hold Donald Trump accountable' for Jan. 6, Pence says

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -Former U.S. Vice President Mike Pence offered his most forceful rebuke to date of his one-time boss Donald Trump on Saturday, saying that history will hold him accountable for his role in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

Pence was in the Capitol when thousands of Trump supporters breached the building in an attempt to stop Congress from certifying the results of the 2020 presidential election, which Trump lost to Joe Biden.

As the vice president has the constitutional role of Senate president, Pence was presiding over what had always been the ceremonial task of approving the votes of the Electoral College to select the president and vice president.

Throughout the siege, Trump sent several tweets, one calling on Republicans to “fight” and others making false claims of voter fraud. He also criticized Pence for certifying the results.

“President Trump was wrong,” Pence told assembled journalists and their guests at the Gridiron dinner, an annual white-tie event in Washington, D.C.

“I had no right to overturn the election, and his reckless words endangered my family and everyone at the Capitol that day, and I know that history will hold Donald Trump accountable.”

Pence, who is considering a run for the Republican nomination for the 2024 presidential election, was whisked to safety by law enforcement during the attack.

He rarely addressed Jan. 6 in the months following the incident, but has since upped his criticism of the rioters and the behavior of his former boss that day.

He has sharply criticized Trump’s conduct in recent media interviews, and in a memoir released in November, he accused Trump of endangering his family.

Still, Pence’s comments on Saturday were his most pointed to date.

“What happened that day was a disgrace,” he said. “And it mocks decency to portray it any other way. For as long as I live, I will never, ever diminish the injuries sustained, the lives lost, or the heroism of law enforcement on that tragic day.”

A spokesperson for Trump did not immediately respond to a request for comment outside business hours.

Pence’s relationship with Trump has been complex since the two left office. He had criticized the former president’s behavior but refrained from the most stinging rebukes of Trump. He also declined to cooperate with the House of Representatives committee investigating the Capitol attack, describing the work done by the mainly Democratic body as partisan.

The former vice president’s comments on Saturday indicate he is willing to more forcefully distance himself from Trump as the 2024 campaign heats up - even if that means alienating the millions of Republican voters still loyal to the former president.

His remarks came just days after conservative television host Tucker Carlson aired security footage of the Capitol attack, claiming that many of the rioters were “orderly.”

Carlson’s depiction of Jan. 6 was sharply criticized by Democrats and several high-profile Republicans in the Senate, though many other Republicans - particularly in the House - shrugged off the episode.

Reporting by Gram Slattery; Editing by William Mallard and Raju Gopalakrishnan

Our Standards: The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles
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No wonder why Pence and his weak knees will never be the Republican's nomination for president.

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Mar 13, 2023 12:18:09   #
eden
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Pence was always against President Trump. He was a useless VP. He did not achieve anything.

Now it is proven at the Video, that Trump did not participate, neither his people participated in the accused crime of insurrection on the J6th. It was another fabricated event by Pelosi, and Team to oust Trump, and forever prevent him from running for president of the United States.

Series of attempts by the Pelosi, Clinton, Obama, Biden team since 2016, nothing been proven. At the expense of taxpayers for hundreds of millions of dollars, to financially bankrupt Trump, and emotional and physical sufferings of Trump.

Mueller investigation alone cost $32 million. There are several of them from the Dossier, FISA , 2 Impeachments, fake taxes investigations to bankrupt Trump, until the unconstitutional Mara Lago raid, now the J6th. All falsified events against Trump just so he could not be a president of the US.

Trump was not a politician. He just entered politics in 2016, when he challenged Hillary Clinton. Trump is not a lawyer either.

Trump does not know how to create a crime and get away from it like all the Marxist -Democrats do, who are all CROOK LAWYERS, starting from the Clintons.

But Trump is an Economist, who knows how to run the economic system of our country. He worked hard since young. He studied at the prestigious Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania.

Trump is a pragmatist, and always gets the work done with positive results. Trump is a patriot and has proven executive leadership both our country and internationally. If Trump was the president, when Putin tried to take Ukraine, that war could not have continued.

Trump has proven world leadership. Defeated/killed ISIS Al Baddhadi, and Iran's terror leader Qasem Soleimani. He provided peace among the Muslim Arab countries with Israel. He was nominated 5 Nobel Price Peace Awards.

Trump moved the capital of Israel to Jerusalem, no other US presidents had done before. Trump was able to bring back home the remains of our military veterans from the North Korean war. He was able to motivate NK leader Kim.

Trump was able to have balanced trade with China by imposing higher tariff which saved the US $650 billion annually. Trump was able to pacify and motivate Russia to be at peace with the world.

Fact was there could have been a Putin visit to the WH July of 2021, had Trump been at the WH. That war in Ukraine could have never started.

Trump was able to lead NATO countries, requiring them to comply with the committed annual dues to the NATO.

And finally, for a brief period of 4 years, despite of democrat harassments, Trump achieved more than any of the presidents since the president Reagan.
https://am970theanswer.com/content/all/trumps-list-289-accomplishments-in-just-20-months-relentless-promise-keeping

Now Joe Biden is prolonging Ukraine war and creating more damages and dead Ukrainians by supporting this endless war with Putin. Putin fights harder due to the US support to Ukraine. Results, Ukrainians dead, and the country been pulverized to pieces.

Biden is not the president of all the American people. He does not support the people. He had an oath to support the US constitution. The constitution is the US includes all the American people. Biden ignored the suffering flight of the people of the town in Palestine, OH. Instead, he went to Zelensky embraced him and delivered hundreds of billions of our taxes to use for Zelensky's war with Russia.

Now Biden is tearing this country apart. He is bankrupting us, as we the people suffer. He has a budget of $6.8 trillion for 2024, and want to raise taxes to gather $4.7 trillion.

Result of taxing more, both the corporations and individual taxpayers wall make the people suffer further. Economy will suffer further.

Thus, Biden is able to totally convert the US to Socialist and then to Communist where all people have to obey like China. Those who don't obey in China just disappear, and not known what happened. This is how communism works.

At present, from the news of Hannity last night, Biden has been supporting the opposition of PM Netanyahu in Israel. Israel is having lots of fighting right now among each other due to the support of Joe Biden of the Israel against PM Netanyahu. Biden and Obama hate Netanyahu.

In 2015, a meeting was scheduled between Netanyahu and Barack at the WH. When Netanyahu arrived at the WH, Barack said, he and family had a dinner appointment at a restaurant. Rude and very unethical behavior of a Obama against Netanyahu.

Now Biden is even worst. He currently supports the opposite party to fight against Netanyahu. Biden restored the annual donation of $250 million to Hamas in Palestine.

While Talib, Omar continuedly vilify and attack Israel in Congress. Taxpayers wasted salary to Omar and Tliab to attack Israel.

Relentless attacks are also done by Farrakhan the friend of Barack Obama, against Israel
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Try some Tylenol first to bring down the fever
then find a specialist to work on the consumptive hate.

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Mar 13, 2023 12:38:17   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
eden wrote:
Try some Tylenol first to bring down the fever
then find a specialist to work on the consumptive hate.

Eden, you have to give Radiance credit for fictional creativity.

Trump did not participate, neither his people participated in the accused crime of insurrection. That Trump issued the invitation and Proud Boys are doing time for sedation is beyond her scope of reality

Every paragraph of Radiance’s rant reeks of creativity.

Give her a break. She believes Donny is above board and is anointed by her god.

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Mar 13, 2023 12:41:17   #
eden
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
Russia, unfortunately has become more free and religiously tolerant than our current US government under dictator joevommit. The solution is to vote these current demorat hardliner commies out of our White House and replace them with a Bona fide Conservative, God fearing President and administration that loves the US more than every other slob in the world.


Well that eliminates Trump by definition.
A fake conservative who sneers at the religious right behind their backs and only loves that minority portion of America that slavishly follows his drivel.

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Mar 13, 2023 12:44:18   #
Big Kahuna
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Eden, you have to give Radiance credit for fictional creativity.

Trump did not participate, neither his people participated in the accused crime of insurrection. That Trump issued the invitation and Proud Boys are doing time for sedation is beyond her scope of reality

Every paragraph of Radiance’s rant reeks of creativity.

Give her a break. She believes Donny is above board and is anointed by her god.


Who anointed you Radiance's spokesperson?? You put your small foot and long nose in everyone's business.

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Mar 13, 2023 12:46:27   #
Big Kahuna
 
eden wrote:
Well that eliminates Trump by definition.
A fake conservative who sneers at the religious right behind their backs and only loves that minority portion of America that slavishly follows his drivel.


False claim. Trump has called on the name of Jesus many times and was our only president to have the balls to move Israel's Capitol to Jerusalem. You appear to be some sick psychic who thinks you can read Trump's mind. Your drivel certainly does not want to be followed.

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Mar 13, 2023 12:58:38   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
eden wrote:
Well that eliminates Trump by definition.
A fake conservative who sneers at the religious right behind their backs and only loves that minority portion of America that slavishly follows his drivel.

Eden, it eliminates a lot of republicans and democrats.

Russia is not more free and religiously tolerant than our current US government.

Right wing BS.

And where are you going to find a Bona fide Conservative, God fearing politician?

Pence maybe, but then he is not corrupt enough to even win the GOP nomination.

That Tucker hates Trump and yet, for money, promotes him is just so wrong.

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Mar 13, 2023 12:59:53   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
Who anointed you Radiance's spokesperson?? You put your small foot and long nose in everyone's business.

The nature of this forum.

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Mar 13, 2023 13:06:45   #
martsiva
 
eden wrote:
I guess you missed the part where Pence was constitutionally obligated to certify the results of the election. He had no choice but to certify or commit a criminal act himself.

While Pence in my view is too ardently religious to be an effective president he does appear to be a decent man beset by his own political ambitions.


NO - he is not Constitutionally obligated to certify the election results when there is possible fraud! His obligation was to start an investigation before certifying the results!! He failed!!

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Mar 13, 2023 13:10:13   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
False claim. Trump has called on the name of Jesus many times and was our only president to have the balls to move Israel's Capitol to Jerusalem. You appear to be some sick psychic who thinks you can read Trump's mind. Your drivel certainly does not want to be followed.

If Trump was a Christian would he have stiffed so many? He says he his.

I guess his word is good, for you.

Do you really think, a man facing multiple legal actions is a good example of a Christian. Jesus would be appalled if you do.

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Mar 13, 2023 13:11:12   #
martsiva
 
soontobeindicted mattoid wrote:
Many still do. Many still watch Fox news.

I hope Fox gets sued into extinction for catering to the dimwits who only wanted to hear news about how the "election was stolen."


And I hope the MSM gets sued for their biased left wing 'reporting'!!

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Mar 13, 2023 13:15:07   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
martsiva wrote:
NO - he is not Constitutionally obligated to certify the election results when there is possible fraud! His obligation was to start an investigation before certifying the results!! He failed!!

The investigation had already happened. There was no fraud other than a few republicans voting twice.

Trump need immunity. Pence followed the Constitution.

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Mar 13, 2023 13:15:59   #
Big Kahuna
 
RascalRiley wrote:
The nature of this forum.


And what pray tell is the nature of this forum??

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Mar 13, 2023 13:17:41   #
Big Kahuna
 
RascalRiley wrote:
If Trump was a Christian would he have stiffed so many? He says he his.

I guess his word is good, for you.

Do you really think, a man facing multiple legal actions is a good example of a Christian. Jesus would be appalled if you do.


Jesus was the perfect man/God. We all come up short but you come up a lot shorter than most. Repent of your prideful nature RR before it is too late.

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