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Jan 7, 2023 23:43:36   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
manning5 wrote:
Has anyone asked just what the left wants for the nation?

Do they want free medical care from birth to death?
Do they want free education through a Ph.D. degree?
Do they want a guaranteed income for life?
Do they want all income to be pooled and shared equally?
Do they want free housing?
Do they want six weeks, or eight weeks, of paid vacation?
Do they want a subsidy to buy an auto?
Do they want the US to disarm?
Do they want a yearly clothing allowance from the government?
Do they want free food?

One might ask what did they do to earn these things or what did they do to deserve these things? Merely exist? Did they create something of value, did they work hard and contribute to the general welfare? No, they are "entitled". They are self-aggrandizers, And we are supposed to support their madness?

No, it is the Utopian dream they are trying to foster off on society, one step at a time. You know about Utopias, don't you?
They are an impossible dream.
Has anyone asked just what the left wants for the ... (show quote)


Getting medical costs down to sane levels is not impossible. The 100 billion dollars per years we spend supporting wetbacks, (minus the 10 or 12 billion they actually contribute) would go a long way toward helping actual US citizens. Putting a guillotine in front of the Veteran's Administration and USING it on a few bureaucrats would probably do more towards better care for veterans than all the funding they receive. If my only choices were death or the VA I would have to think about it. I have not used them for more than 35 years.

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Jan 8, 2023 00:55:33   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
Getting medical costs down to sane levels is not impossible. The 100 billion dollars per years we spend supporting wetbacks, (minus the 10 or 12 billion they actually contribute) would go a long way toward helping actual US citizens. Putting a guillotine in front of the Veteran's Administration and USING it on a few bureaucrats would probably do more towards better care for veterans than all the funding they receive. If my only choices were death or the VA I would have to think about it. I have not used them for more than 35 years.
Getting medical costs down to sane levels is not i... (show quote)

Is there a difference between death and the VA?

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Jan 8, 2023 08:47:07   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
You ever read the book about what God thinks?
I doubt it.


It was forced on me as a child , like most .
And like most I outgrew it.

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Jan 8, 2023 08:55:15   #
fullspinzoo
 
Milosia2 wrote:
It was forced on me as a child , like most .
And like most I outgrew it.


That's too bad. You grew up, I believe, in an area (Somoa) with a strong LDS influence, correct?

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Jan 8, 2023 08:57:46   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
Getting medical costs down to sane levels is not impossible. The 100 billion dollars per years we spend supporting wetbacks, (minus the 10 or 12 billion they actually contribute) would go a long way toward helping actual US citizens. Putting a guillotine in front of the Veteran's Administration and USING it on a few bureaucrats would probably do more towards better care for veterans than all the funding they receive. If my only choices were death or the VA I would have to think about it. I have not used them for more than 35 years.
Getting medical costs down to sane levels is not i... (show quote)


**** The 100 billion dollars per years we spend supporting wetbacks*****
We pay these prices as a supplement to the extremely low wages they get for working here. The employers of these people are scamming the Taxpayers into paying and subsidizing their extremely underpaid workforces.
Along with Medicare and Medicaid for them and food stamps .
Allow them to have drivers licenses.
Who really is causing these problems ????
Most are here legally , And should be paid legal wages instead of being taken advantage of and exploited . And forcing tax payers to pay for corporate Labor .
As most farm conglomerates are today.
So , subsidizing the Corporate Workforce is a Right guaranteed by what again ????

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Jan 8, 2023 09:02:21   #
fullspinzoo
 
Milosia2 wrote:
**** The 100 billion dollars per years we spend supporting wetbacks*****
We pay these prices as a supplement to the extremely low wages they get for working here. The employers of these people are scamming the Taxpayers into paying and subsidizing their extremely underpaid workforces.
Along with Medicare and Medicaid for them and food stamps .
Allow them to have drivers licenses.
Who really is causing these problems ????
Most are here legally , And should be paid legal wages instead of being taken advantage of and exploited . And forcing tax payers to pay for corporate Labor .
As most farm conglomerates are today.
So , subsidizing the Corporate Workforce is a Right guaranteed by what again ????
**** The 100 billion dollars per years we spend su... (show quote)

Most are here legally? How do you figure?

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Jan 8, 2023 09:12:30   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
Most are here legally? How do you figure?


Just making it up like most dems.

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Jan 8, 2023 09:17:01   #
EmilyD
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
Most are here legally? How do you figure?

When inflation doubles again as I've been reading, maybe then she will realize what's going on.

Paying for 5 million illegals and their chain migration family members (which will be many millians more, because that law still exists), has to come from somewhere, and that somewhere is our taxes. We, the middle class, will be responsible for the debt this open border is bringing to this country.

If Milosia2 doesn't like higher and higher taxes on everything - which is what inflation is - she better wake up. Not only is she NOT going to be handed her free money, she will be expected to shell out more so they can come here and get those freebies she is always yapping about wanting herself!

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Jan 8, 2023 09:26:51   #
fullspinzoo
 
EmilyD wrote:
When inflation doubles again as I've been reading, maybe then she will realize what's going on.

Paying for 5 million illegals and their chain migration family members (which will be many millians more, because that law still exists), has to come from somewhere, and that somewhere is our taxes. We, the middle class, will be responsible for the debt this open border is bringing to this country.

If Milosia2 doesn't like higher and higher taxes on everything - which is what inflation is - she better wake up. Not only is she NOT going to be handed her free money, she will be expected to shell out more so they can come here and get those freebies she is always yapping about wanting herself!
When inflation doubles again as I've been reading,... (show quote)


Right on, Emily.

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Jan 8, 2023 10:28:59   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
Thaumaturgy. A Thaumaturge is one who practices Thaumaturgy. No opprobrium intended.


Like magic.

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Jan 8, 2023 10:46:05   #
manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
Thaumaturgy. A Thaumaturge is one who practices Thaumaturgy. No opprobrium intended.


I blew it! Should have capitalized Thaumaturge, you know Throckmorton P. Thaumaturge, Esq. the magician?

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Jan 8, 2023 10:53:54   #
Mikeyavelli
 
manning5 wrote:
I blew it! Should have capitalized Thaumaturge, you know Throckmorton P. Thaumaturge, Esq. the magician?


Isn't he the government guy who pulls money out of a hat?

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Jan 8, 2023 11:53:49   #
manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Isn't he the government guy who pulls money out of a hat?


Not exactly...

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Jan 8, 2023 12:24:29   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Isn't he the government guy who pulls money out of a hat?


No that’s Biden’s double.

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Jan 8, 2023 13:28:34   #
MidnightRider
 
manning5 wrote:
Has anyone asked just what the left wants for the nation?

Do they want free medical care from birth to death?
Do they want free education through a Ph.D. degree?
Do they want a guaranteed income for life?
Do they want all income to be pooled and shared equally?
Do they want free housing?
Do they want six weeks, or eight weeks, of paid vacation?
Do they want a subsidy to buy an auto?
Do they want the US to disarm?
Do they want a yearly clothing allowance from the government?
Do they want free food?

One might ask what did they do to earn these things or what did they do to deserve these things? Merely exist? Did they create something of value, did they work hard and contribute to the general welfare? No, they are "entitled". They are self-aggrandizers, And we are supposed to support their madness?

No, it is the Utopian dream they are trying to foster off on society, one step at a time. You know about Utopias, don't you?
They are an impossible dream.
Has anyone asked just what the left wants for the ... (show quote)


Most, yes. Give them a week with EVs breaking down all the time, not going far before they have to recharge them, imploding. They'll give up on that one pretty fast. Food, never trust them iy's tainted right now, imagine if the gubmint got ahold of it, I grow my own. Can you imagine if everyone was a PhD? What need would we have for government? For that matter what need is there now?

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