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Nov 29, 2022 11:33:05   #
BIRDMAN
 
kemmer wrote:
She's an idiot. Nobody seriously thinks Russia's war against Ukraine will be solved by diplomacy. For that to happen, Ukraine will be obliged to surrender some of its territory to a criminal invader, Russia. During a temporary time of peace, Russia will re-arm and prepare for another invasion, because Putin will destroy Ukraine or go down fighting.
Everybody knows this.

Malarkey

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Nov 29, 2022 11:48:09   #
kemmer
 
Birdmam wrote:
Malarkey

This isn’t our first rodeo. Czechoslovakia ceded its Sudetenland to Germany to keep the peace. Shortly thereafter Germany took the rest.
Putin = Hitler.

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Nov 29, 2022 12:26:54   #
BIRDMAN
 
kemmer wrote:
This isn’t our first rodeo. Czechoslovakia ceded its Sudetenland to Germany to keep the peace. Shortly thereafter Germany took the rest.
Putin = Hitler.


Czechoslovakia was a part of Germany after World War I the allies made it its own country

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Nov 29, 2022 13:36:44   #
whole2th
 
kemmer wrote:
She's an idiot. Nobody seriously thinks Russia's war against Ukraine will be solved by diplomacy. For that to happen, Ukraine will be obliged to surrender some of its territory to a criminal invader, Russia. During a temporary time of peace, Russia will re-arm and prepare for another invasion, because Putin will destroy Ukraine or go down fighting.
Everybody knows this.


For want of territory that Ukraine has been shelling since 2015--territories whose people have voted to join Russia, mad Zionist dog Zelensky would sacrifice the entirety of Ukraine to ruin.

It is a POLICE ACTION to cleanse Ukraine of evil elements who have been shelling the ethnic Russian Donbas region since 2015.

Most people realize these things.

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Nov 29, 2022 14:21:16   #
kemmer
 
Birdmam wrote:
Czechoslovakia was a part of Germany after World War I the allies made it its own country

Was part of Austria-Hungary before Versailles. Putin has said several times Ukraine has no right to exist, just like Hitler said about Czechoslovakia.

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Nov 29, 2022 14:21:17   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Birdmam wrote:
Malarkey


Total malarkey!

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Nov 29, 2022 14:24:06   #
kemmer
 
whole2th wrote:

It is a POLICE ACTION to cleanse Ukraine of evil elements who have been shelling the ethnic Russian Donbas region since 2015.

It’s a criminal invasion. Putin has said Ukraine has no right to exist.

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Nov 29, 2022 14:26:13   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
whole2th wrote:
For want of territory that Ukraine has been shelling since 2015--territories whose people have voted to join Russia, mad Zionist dog Zelensky would sacrifice the entirety of Ukraine to ruin.

It is a POLICE ACTION to cleanse Ukraine of evil elements who have been shelling the ethnic Russian Donbas region since 2015.

Most people realize these things.


And we have zero right to interfere. It is a fools errand with no good result pending outside of Zelensky calling it off and leaving the people of the donbas and Crimea to make their own future.

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Nov 29, 2022 14:31:58   #
whole2th
 
kemmer wrote:
It’s a criminal invasion. Putin has said Ukraine has no right to exist.


The present Ukraine regime was established with US State Department and CIA machinations--overthrowing a democratically elected government in 2014. It is understandable that the present regime is not recognized as it arose in overt attacks and covert attacks from inside and outside. Russia has no fault in the overthrow of the elected Ukraine government.

Many 'false flags' efforts have been made to blame Russia and Putin. The event that first got my attention was the shoot-down of MH17. https://www.dropbox.com/s/dd81fppe9jge8c8/CC%2018%2B%20MH17%20is%20MH370%21.mp4?dl=0

Since then, Ukraine has been shelling the ethnic Russian regions who have had votes to remove themselves from Ukraine umbrella and join with Russia. The will of the ethnic Russians is ignored and attacks by Ukraine continue. Who would want to remain with Ukraine with attacks occurring?

kemmer is so wrong about so much that his viewpoints can be automatically presumed to be false.

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Nov 29, 2022 14:34:35   #
kemmer
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
And we have zero right to interfere.

We and the EU have every right to interfere. Putin wants the old USSR back, and Ukraine is the prize.

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Nov 29, 2022 14:39:43   #
kemmer
 
whole2th wrote:
The present Ukraine regime was established with US State Department and CIA machinations--overthrowing a democratically elected government in 2014.

After WWII, Russia invaded Eastern European countries, killed opposition, and ruled from Moscow. Putin’s trying that again, but fortunately his army is for shit.

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Nov 29, 2022 14:51:41   #
whole2th
 
kemmer wrote:
We and the EU have every right to interfere. Putin wants the old USSR back, and Ukraine is the prize.


That's a BS narrative. Moscow blundered in 2014 by leaving Donbass an unfinished business — unlike Crimea — by allowing itself to be lured into the ceasefire brokered by Germany and France and the Minsk agreements. Minsk agreements were broken-threatening Russia's security.

https://alethonews.com/2022/11/29/what-to-expect-in-russias-winter-offensive-in-ukraine/

The USSR's demise is a plus for Russia.

Ukraine's criminal actions deserve a policing action. https://www.dropbox.com/s/dd81fppe9jge8c8/CC%2018%2B%20MH17%20is%20MH370%21.mp4?dl=0 I notice no comment about this event which Ukraine attempted to blame on Putin and Russia.

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Nov 29, 2022 15:04:49   #
kemmer
 
whole2th wrote:
That's a BS narrative. Moscow blundered in 2014 by leaving Donbass an unfinished business — unlike Crimea

Right. Whatever Putin wants, Putin taskes or tries to take, other countries, untold billions from the Russian economy, etc. Stalin would be proud of him.

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Nov 29, 2022 15:36:07   #
BIRDMAN
 
kemmer wrote:
It’s a criminal invasion. Putin has said Ukraine has no right to exist.


You do know Russia gave Ukraine its independence right

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Nov 29, 2022 15:36:47   #
BIRDMAN
 
kemmer wrote:
After WWII, Russia invaded Eastern European countries, killed opposition, and ruled from Moscow. Putin’s trying that again, but fortunately his army is for shit.


Not after during

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