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Nov 7, 2022 11:16:16   #
Radiance3
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
https://www.westernjournal.com/trump-actually-impeached-white-house-may-argue-never/

Was Trump Actually Impeached? White House May Argue He Never Was

It is the scarlet I. The asterisk. The stain that will forever mark the Trump administration, the first thing we talk about when we talk about President Donald Trump.

You’ve probably heard enough of that talk on cable news these past few days, particularly if you venture onto CNN and MSNBC. It’s pretty horrifying stuff. And it’ll be worse when it gets to the Senate — if it gets to the Senate, of course. If it doesn’t, the White House may argue Donald Trump was never impeached.

Lest we forget, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is threatening to withhold the articles of impeachment from the upper chamber unless they agree to the trial she wants, because she’s suddenly taken a conspicuous interest in fairness and process. If only this interest had appeared a few weeks ago.

“So far we haven’t seen anything that looks fair to us,” Pelosi said during a media conference, adding that “we’ll see what happens over there.”

To which Senate Republicans said, well, sure. Take your time. Not only is this the best-case scenario for the GOP caucus in the upper house, it proves the rigamarole about rushing a sloppy, partisan impeachment inquiry through the House because President Trump was such a threat to democracy that nothing but Mario Andretti-like speed would do was a complete charade.

The White House might like this outcome as well, and not just because the Senate trial is delayed or doesn’t happen. According to Bloomberg, the Trump administration is ready to argue that a failure to deliver articles of impeachment will mean President Trump was never impeached.

On Friday, Bloomberg reported that lawyers will say that the language of the Constitution requires a trial to happen for it to be official.

“The case is a rhetorical one following Wednesday night’s vote to impeach the president on two articles. The U.S. Constitution grants the House of Representatives full authority over impeachment. But the argument is part of an effort by the White House and Senate Republicans to maximize their leverage as lawmakers debate when and how to conduct a trial on charges that the president abused his power to solicit an investigation into political rival Joe Biden, and obstructed the congressional investigation into the matter,” the news outlet reported.

“The White House legal theory, according to a person familiar with the legal review, is that if Trump has been officially impeached, the Senate should already have jurisdiction. Backers of the theory would argue that the clause of the U.S. Constitution that gives the Senate ‘the sole Power to try all Impeachments’ indicates that the impeachment isn’t formalized until the House reported the charges to the upper chamber.”

It noted the president is dropping hints he might be on board with this strategy.

“To me, it doesn’t feel like impeachment,” the president said Thursday in the Oval Office, adding that it was “unconstitutional” for Pelosi to refuse to turn the articles of impeachment over to the Senate.

This can’t just be dismissed as some fringe theory being pushed by the White House, either. Some of you may remember Noah Feldman from the House Judiciary Committee impeachment inquiry hearing where four legal experts — three of them in favor of impeachment, of course — testified on the matter. If you can’t quite place him, he was the guy on the far right (not politically, obviously) who’ll inevitably be played by Benedict Cumberbatch when “Truer Grit: The Jerrold Nadler Story” hits theaters.

Anyway, Sherlock doesn’t think that impeachment has necessarily happened if the articles aren’t delivered to the Senate, either.

“The Constitution doesn’t say how fast the articles must go to the Senate. Some modest delay is not inconsistent with the Constitution, or how both chambers usually work,” Feldman wrote in an opinion piece for Bloomberg on Friday.

“But an indefinite delay would pose a serious problem. Impeachment, as contemplated by the Constitution, does not consist merely of the vote by the House, but of the process of sending the articles to the Senate for trial. Both parts are necessary to make an impeachment under the Constitution: The House must actually send the articles and send managers to the Senate to prosecute the impeachment. And the Senate must actually hold a trial.

“If the House does not communicate its impeachment to the Senate, it hasn’t actually impeached the president. If the articles are not transmitted, Trump could legitimately say that he wasn’t truly impeached at all.”


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The Democrats already know they’re not going to get a conviction in the Senate, not with this evidence. The Democrats went through this whole mess and likely doomed a lot of their freshman class to defeat, given they flipped districts that aren’t too jazzed about impeachment. Heck, one of them — Rep. Jeff Van Drew of New Jersey — is leaving the party for precisely that reason. The president’s poll numbers are up.
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The Unconstitutional proceedings against President Trump:
Pelosi's Impeachment Articles presented to the Senate were not even impeachable crimes.. Pelosi could not fabricate one that suits the case. The impeachment proceedings were also unconstitutional cause only the Democrat party was allowed in the process. Only Pelosi, Adam Schitt, and Schumer decided. Held at the Congress basement that Pelosi locked up so the Republicans were not allowed to enter.

The Kangaroo Court of Pelosi was busy. The second impeachment, Pelosi kept the Article of Impeachment in her bag for 1 month, cause she knew it won't pass and waiting, hoping something may come up. Nothing did. She submitted anyways. Of course the Senate will not convict cause case was not impeachable crime. How simple was that?

Now, they are desperate to keep the Senate at least majority for these Marxist Democrats. Afraid, they, Biden or Hunter could be investigated. Afraid, that DOJ Garland and the FBI Wray could be investigated. !000 pages of documents submitted by the Whistle Blowers to Jim Jordan already, head of the Judiciary Committee in 2023.

We will have a very busy Congress in 2023, cleaning up the filth and the mess that Joe Biden and his team did against the American people. They are destroying the American people to weaken them in order that their Totalitarian system proceeds.

Barack Obama is campaigning and lying to the American people, telling that the Republicans if they win will take away "Democracy". What democracy he is talking about. He already has converted this country to Totalitarian from a Republic. We are a Republic not a Democracy. Barack Obama and Joe Biden transformed it to Totalitarian system.

Barack Obama is also campaigning and lying that if Republicans win, they'll take away the Social Security and Medicare. BUNCH OF LIES! Of course DEMS added more red hole to these benefits cause of the massive expenditures that Joe Biden did. Paying people out of our tax money not to work, a motivation also to vote for them. Biden's trillion dollars spending without restraint, and without approval from Congress. Pelosi allowed him for their own benefits. More people had applied for SS benefits, than working and contributing to the system. SS and Medicare went deeper to the red hole.

SS and Medicare will continue under the Republicans. But due to the massive deficits done by Biden, it needs solutions to survive. A deep financial analysis is needed to keep it alive. And the GOP's are ended with these tasks of solving the abuses of the Marxist democrats abuses to the American people.[/b]

Until now, the Marxist Dems are skinning President Trump, to prevent him from running in 2024.

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Nov 7, 2022 11:19:35   #
whole2th
 
Surprise, surprise. Pennsylvania voter database is down.

https://welovetrump.com/2022/11/06/widespread-outage-impacting-pennsylvania-voter-databases/?utm_source=newsletter_wr

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Nov 7, 2022 12:15:20   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
padremike wrote:
You jackasses honestly believe Pelosi & her fellow demons had a legitimate cause to impeach Trump. Chances are that without looking you have no idea what phony charges the bastards (I'm being charitable here) dreamed up to charge Trump. This is because all you care about is a word, "Impeached." There are so many words the Marxist Left conjured up that controls your minds & emotions. "Insurrection, cockroachs, deplorables, cult, Hitler, Nazi, stealing Democracy, stealing social security & Medicare, man caused climate change, death in 12 years, Jim Crow, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc." They utter a word & you respond like good little pups. You're conditioned. I suspect you're also "pixelated."
You jackasses honestly believe Pelosi & her fe... (show quote)


Who ever said preachers were kind didn't know you. You appear to be a spiteful hateful person. No wonder that Bishop shxtcanned you.

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Nov 7, 2022 12:54:06   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Pavlov had them nailed!!!

Droolers for sure!


Pavlov would have been overjoyed if his dogs were as thoroughly conditioned as the Marxist Democrats have condition their own.

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Nov 7, 2022 13:32:13   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
Who ever said preachers were kind didn't know you. You appear to be a spiteful hateful person. No wonder that Bishop shxtcanned you.


Yep, when you get stuck on stupid there's no getting you off of it. In case you're wondering, it's not exactly a gift.

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Nov 7, 2022 14:36:52   #
DASHY
 
padremike wrote:
Yep, when you get stuck on stupid there's no getting you off of it. In case you're wondering, it's not exactly a gift.


James Carville and I have made the same observation: Republicans are running very low-quality candidates in the midterms because they have a lot of stupid people that vote in their primaries. MAGA Republicans stand out as examples of stupid people with no mind of their own. Their leader lies and they swear to it.
https://news.yahoo.com/james-carville-republicans-lot-stupid-143037874.html

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Nov 7, 2022 15:15:00   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
DASHY wrote:
James Carville and I have made the same observation: Republicans are running very low-quality candidates in the midterms because they have a lot of stupid people that vote in their primaries. MAGA Republicans stand out as examples of stupid people with no mind of their own. Their leader lies and they swear to it.
https://news.yahoo.com/james-carville-republicans-lot-stupid-143037874.html


Yep! You and Carville sympatico. I can clearly see that. Even his wife thinks he's a moron.

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Nov 7, 2022 15:41:43   #
DASHY
 
padremike wrote:
Yep! You and Carville sympatico. I can clearly see that. Even his wife thinks he's a moron.


James Carville's wife, Mary Matalin, also a political consultant, abandoned the Republican party in 2016. The couple have two daughters. I am delighted to have mutual understanding with the brilliant political strategist, James Carville.

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Nov 7, 2022 19:02:38   #
Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
DASHY wrote:
After the successful Impeachment process in the House of Representatives, Republican senators failed to remove Trump from office. Trump will go down in history as the first president to be impeached twice. Some Republican Senators might be regretting their decision.


The House dropped the ball when they neglected to send their report to the Senate. That was the final step. So the "impeachment" was never finalized. Thus, Trump can claim he was never impeached!

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Nov 7, 2022 19:43:40   #
DASHY
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
The House dropped the ball when they neglected to send their report to the Senate. That was the final step. So the "impeachment" was never finalized. Thus, Trump can claim he was never impeached!


Trump can claim the 2020 election was stolen. Both statements are lies.
Trump lost the election by over $7 MILLION votes and was impeached twice.

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Nov 7, 2022 19:54:45   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
DASHY wrote:
Trump can claim the 2020 election was stolen. Both statements are lies.
Trump lost the election by over $7 MILLION votes and was impeached twice.


No, it was somewhere in the mid to high 20K. I heard 27,000. I was surprised how key states, not the overall popular votes, swung the election. That small number could be "managed." The circumstantial evidence is overwhelming there was election fraud. We're still waiting on the forensic investigation. It will happen next year.

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Nov 7, 2022 20:04:25   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
padremike wrote:
No, it was somewhere in the mid to high 20K. I heard 27,000. I was surprised how key states, not the overall popular votes, swung the election. That small number could be "managed." The circumstantial evidence is overwhelming there was election fraud. We're still waiting on the forensic investigation. It will happen next year.


PM, no govt agency found any credible evidence of voter fraud on a large enough scale to turn the election. That was both federal & state Gov officials .GA was closest, 12000 votes but again, everything was above board. Keep in mind the elected officials in GA are republican.

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Nov 7, 2022 20:09:44   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
DASHY wrote:
James Carville's wife, Mary Matalin, also a political consultant, abandoned the Republican party in 2016. The couple have two daughters. I am delighted to have mutual understanding with the brilliant political strategist, James Carville.


I thought I had addressed this comment already but I guess I'm wrong.

Mary Matalin left the GOP for the Libertarian Party. She still voted for Trump. I vote GOP but in truth I'm a Conservative voter. Many of us have to identify as Republicans because we have no other choice yet we remain very disappointed at the number of so-called Republians that identify with jackasses like Cheney.

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Nov 7, 2022 20:13:26   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
PM, no govt agency found any credible evidence of voter fraud on a large enough scale to turn the election. That was both federal & state Gov officials .GA was closest, 12000 votes but again, everything was above board. Keep in mind the elected officials in GA are republican.


No Democrat controlled government agency found evidence of voter fraud. Hahahahahaha. Now that's a good one. Kudos.

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Nov 7, 2022 23:55:14   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
Do you mean red tide?


Lol!

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