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Oct 6, 2022 15:07:15   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
RascalRiley wrote:
It is a more appropriate term for Her. It is more inclusive. Although I do think Her is better term. A god should be nurturing.


This is one of many damning issues about you Marxist. You believe you have the power & responsibility to turn our world upside down. Too often you kill good folks in your quest to destroy that which is good and elevate that which is evil. You make a lot of noise, reminiscent of a pissant lying on his back with an erection, floating down the Mississippi River during flood stage on a willow πŸƒ leaf, screaming as loud as he can to "raise the drawbridge." Your failure rate is stellar, you fail 100% of the time, only fools drink your Kool-aid. I'll not bother explaining to you the nuance of God's attributes, possessing both male and female characteristic, so I'll keep it simple to your level of understanding. Jesus taught us to pray to "Our Father."

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Oct 6, 2022 15:21:57   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
padremike wrote:
This is one of many damning issues about you Marxist. You believe you have the power & responsibility to turn our world upside down. Too often you kill good folks in your quest to destroy that which is good and elevate that which is evil. You make a lot of noise, reminiscent of a pissant lying on his back with an erection, floating down the Mississippi River during flood stage on a willow πŸƒ leaf, screaming as loud as he can to "raise the drawbridge." Your failure rate is stellar, you fail 100% of the time, only fools drink your Kool-aid. I'll not bother explaining to you the nuance of God's attributes, possessing both male and female characteristic, so I'll keep it simple to your level of understanding. Jesus taught us to pray to "Our Father."
This is one of many damning issues about you Marxi... (show quote)

You don’t know that. You have have been told that he said that.

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Oct 6, 2022 15:48:37   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
RascalRiley wrote:
You don’t know that. You have told that.


πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚. Yep! Padre β€œtold that”…….and I must say, he told it rather well!

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Oct 6, 2022 17:43:34   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
RascalRiley wrote:
It is a more appropriate term for Her. It is more inclusive. Although I do think Her is better term. A god should be nurturing.


How the hell would you know?

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Oct 6, 2022 17:53:36   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
dtucker300 wrote:
How the hell would you know?

I think there is a higher power. A universe wide power. Not a planet earth god.

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Oct 6, 2022 19:13:07   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
RascalRiley wrote:
I think there is a higher power. A universe wide power. Not a planet earth god.


And we all know where β€œthinking” get’s you! πŸ˜‰

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Oct 6, 2022 19:22:37   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
RascalRiley wrote:
I think there is a higher power. A universe wide power. Not a planet earth god.



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Oct 6, 2022 19:31:27   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
padremike wrote:
This is one of many damning issues about you Marxist. You believe you have the power & responsibility to turn our world upside down. Too often you kill good folks in your quest to destroy that which is good and elevate that which is evil. You make a lot of noise, reminiscent of a pissant lying on his back with an erection, floating down the Mississippi River during flood stage on a willow πŸƒ leaf, screaming as loud as he can to "raise the drawbridge." Your failure rate is stellar, you fail 100% of the time, only fools drink your Kool-aid. I'll not bother explaining to you the nuance of God's attributes, possessing both male and female characteristic, so I'll keep it simple to your level of understanding. Jesus taught us to pray to "Our Father."
This is one of many damning issues about you Marxi... (show quote)


" Jesus taught us to pray to "Our Father." Got any proof?

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Oct 6, 2022 20:44:56   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Bad Bob wrote:
" Jesus taught us to pray to "Our Father." Got any proof?


Yes.

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Oct 6, 2022 21:00:59   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
padremike wrote:
Yes.

Proof

The Gospel According to Luke, written in roughly 85 C.E. (Β± five to ten years), most likely during the reign of the Roman Emperor Domitian, is known in its earliest form from extensive papyri fragments dating to the early or middle of the third century.

A book written roughly fifty years after he said it. Not proof.

https://stjohnwaynesville.org/about-god/when-was-the-gospel-of-luke-written-and-for-whom.hell

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Oct 6, 2022 21:31:23   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Proof

The Gospel According to Luke, written in roughly 85 C.E. (Β± five to ten years), most likely during the reign of the Roman Emperor Domitian, is known in its earliest form from extensive papyri fragments dating to the early or middle of the third century.

A book written roughly fifty years after he said it. Not proof.

https://stjohnwaynesville.org/about-god/when-was-the-gospel-of-luke-written-and-for-whom.hell


This thread started out being about The Pillow Guy, not God.

Why God is referred to as He? (In the Old Testament, long before the Gospel according to Luke)
Here is a good explanation from Dennis Prager: (Put this in your pipe and smoke it, Mr. Dumass.)
https://www.prageru.com/video/why-god-is-a-he

One of the criticisms many people make against the Bible is that it depicts God in male terms. The most obvious example is God is referred to as "He." Why did the Bible do this?

Well, here's the answer: Because the Bible is preoccupied with making a kinder, less violent, more just world. If you share these goals – and I suspect you do – then you'll have to agree the Bible made the right decision.

Before I explain, I need to add an obvious caveat: The God of the Bible is neither male nor female. God transcends gender. What I'm talking about here is why God is depicted in male terms in the Bible.

Gender-wise, the Bible had three choices: masculine – "he"; feminine – "she"; or neuter – "it."

We can readily rule out neuter. For one thing, neuter nouns don't exist in Hebrew, the language of the Old Testament – which, after all, first introduced this God to us. For another, the biblical God is a personal God to whom we can – and must--relate. And we cannot relate to, let alone obey or love, an "It."

Aside from the language issue, the Bible depicts God in masculine terms because:

One: The Hebrew Bible's primary concern is making a good world.

Two: A good world can only be achieved by making good people.

And three: The people who commit nearly all the world's violence are males.

Therefore, it is in both men's and women's interests to depict God in the masculine.


Here's why:

Without a father or some other male rule-giver, young men are likely to do great harm. If there is no male authority figure to give a growing boy rules, it is very difficult for him to control his wilder impulses.

As President Barack Obama told an audience in 2008, "Children who grow up without a father are five times more likely to live in poverty and commit crime, nine times more likely to drop out of school, and twenty times more likely to end up in prison." Commenting on that speech, Dr. Alvin Poussaint, a psychiatrist with Harvard Medical School, confirmed these statistics: "The absence of fathers corresponds with a host of social ills, including dropping out of school and serving time in jail."

In other words, if one's primary goal is a good world – specifically, a world with far less murder, child abuse, theft, and rape--a God depicted in masculine terms (a Father in Heaven), not a goddess (a Mother in Heaven), must be the source of moral commands such as "Do not murder" and "Do not steal."

If the father figure/rule-giver that boys need is not on Earth, a morally authoritative masculine God can serve as an effective substitute. Any discomfort you might feel with a masculine depiction of God is not comparable to the pain we will all feel if boys are not civilized into good men.

To transform a wild boy into a good man, a male role model is as necessary as a male rule-giver. So, when the Bible depicts God as merciful, compassionate, and caring for the poor and the widow, it is not so much interested in describing God as in providing a model for humans, especially males, to emulate.

If God were depicted as female, young men would deem traits such as compassion, mercy, and care for the downtrodden as feminine and would not identify with them. But if God, their Father in Heaven, who is strong – on occasion, even a warrior – cares for the poor and loves justice, mercy, and kindness, then these traits are also masculine and to be emulated.

The argument that girls equally need female role models to avoid violence is objectively not true – because the problem of mayhem and violence is overwhelmingly a male one. Of course, girls need female role models, but not to avoid violence.

And, like boys, girls are more likely to obey a male authority figure. A report released by the Minnesota Psychological Association concluded: "In a study of female inmates, more than half came from a father-absent home."

It is therefore ironic that some women are attempting to render the God of Western religious morality less masculine. Because if their goal is achieved, it is women who will suffer most from lawless males.

We have too many absent fathers on Earth to begin to even entertain the thought of having no Father in Heaven.



https://billygraham.org/answer/why-does-the-bible-refer-to-god-in-masculine-terms/
Q:
Why does the Bible refer to God in masculine terms?
A:
The answer to the question about why God is referred to in masculine terms in the Bible really has only one answer: This is the way God has chosen to reveal Himself to us. God is never described with sexual characteristics in the Scriptures, but He does consistently describe Himself in the masculine gender.

While God contains all the qualities of both male and female genders, He has chosen to present Himself with an emphasis on masculine qualities of fatherhood, protection, direction, strength, etc. Metaphors used to describe Him in the Bible include: King, Father, Judge, Husband, Master, and the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

One famous Christian scholar, C. S. Lewis, has suggested that gender is far deeper than our human distinctions reveal. He suggests that God is so masculine that we all are feminine in relation to Him. If this is true, it might explain why the church is referred to as the bride of Christ, though it is composed of both men and women.

There are those who would like to blur this emphasis in some of the newer Bible translations, but it is very dangerous to tamper with the way God has chosen to reveal Himself. He most certainly does not intend to minimize women, since men and women are revealed as being made in His image and are of equal value to Him. But it remains that He is Father, not Mother, and even in the Incarnation chose to come to us as a man, Jesus Christ.

Naturally, none of this will convince you because you are not a rational thinker. And like Bob, you are an atheist/Marxist.

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Oct 6, 2022 21:40:49   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Proof

The Gospel According to Luke, written in roughly 85 C.E. (Β± five to ten years), most likely during the reign of the Roman Emperor Domitian, is known in its earliest form from extensive papyri fragments dating to the early or middle of the third century.

A book written roughly fifty years after he said it. Not proof.

https://stjohnwaynesville.org/about-god/when-was-the-gospel-of-luke-written-and-for-whom.hell


The Prayer is also found in Matthew whose Jewish Gospel is attributed to him. So why do you care when it was written. How do we know the gospels are authentic? Methodology. In evaluating the historical reliability of the Gospels, scholars consider authorship and date of composition, intention and genre, gospel sources and oral tradition, textual criticism, and historical authenticity of specific sayings and narrative events. How do you make your own determination?

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Oct 6, 2022 21:45:53   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
dtucker300 wrote:
This thread started out being about The Pillow Guy, not God.

Why God is referred to as He? (In the Old Testament, long before the Gospel according to Luke)
Here is a good explanation from Dennis Prager: (Put this in your pipe and smoke it, Mr. Dumass.)
https://www.prageru.com/video/why-god-is-a-he

One of the criticisms many people make against the Bible is that it depicts God in male terms. The most obvious example is God is referred to as "He." Why did the Bible do this?

Well, here's the answer: Because the Bible is preoccupied with making a kinder, less violent, more just world. If you share these goals – and I suspect you do – then you'll have to agree the Bible made the right decision.

Before I explain, I need to add an obvious caveat: The God of the Bible is neither male nor female. God transcends gender. What I'm talking about here is why God is depicted in male terms in the Bible.

Gender-wise, the Bible had three choices: masculine – "he"; feminine – "she"; or neuter – "it."

We can readily rule out neuter. For one thing, neuter nouns don't exist in Hebrew, the language of the Old Testament – which, after all, first introduced this God to us. For another, the biblical God is a personal God to whom we can – and must--relate. And we cannot relate to, let alone obey or love, an "It."

Aside from the language issue, the Bible depicts God in masculine terms because:

One: The Hebrew Bible's primary concern is making a good world.

Two: A good world can only be achieved by making good people.

And three: The people who commit nearly all the world's violence are males.

Therefore, it is in both men's and women's interests to depict God in the masculine.


Here's why:

Without a father or some other male rule-giver, young men are likely to do great harm. If there is no male authority figure to give a growing boy rules, it is very difficult for him to control his wilder impulses.

As President Barack Obama told an audience in 2008, "Children who grow up without a father are five times more likely to live in poverty and commit crime, nine times more likely to drop out of school, and twenty times more likely to end up in prison." Commenting on that speech, Dr. Alvin Poussaint, a psychiatrist with Harvard Medical School, confirmed these statistics: "The absence of fathers corresponds with a host of social ills, including dropping out of school and serving time in jail."

In other words, if one's primary goal is a good world – specifically, a world with far less murder, child abuse, theft, and rape--a God depicted in masculine terms (a Father in Heaven), not a goddess (a Mother in Heaven), must be the source of moral commands such as "Do not murder" and "Do not steal."

If the father figure/rule-giver that boys need is not on Earth, a morally authoritative masculine God can serve as an effective substitute. Any discomfort you might feel with a masculine depiction of God is not comparable to the pain we will all feel if boys are not civilized into good men.

To transform a wild boy into a good man, a male role model is as necessary as a male rule-giver. So, when the Bible depicts God as merciful, compassionate, and caring for the poor and the widow, it is not so much interested in describing God as in providing a model for humans, especially males, to emulate.

If God were depicted as female, young men would deem traits such as compassion, mercy, and care for the downtrodden as feminine and would not identify with them. But if God, their Father in Heaven, who is strong – on occasion, even a warrior – cares for the poor and loves justice, mercy, and kindness, then these traits are also masculine and to be emulated.

The argument that girls equally need female role models to avoid violence is objectively not true – because the problem of mayhem and violence is overwhelmingly a male one. Of course, girls need female role models, but not to avoid violence.

And, like boys, girls are more likely to obey a male authority figure. A report released by the Minnesota Psychological Association concluded: "In a study of female inmates, more than half came from a father-absent home."

It is therefore ironic that some women are attempting to render the God of Western religious morality less masculine. Because if their goal is achieved, it is women who will suffer most from lawless males.

We have too many absent fathers on Earth to begin to even entertain the thought of having no Father in Heaven.



https://billygraham.org/answer/why-does-the-bible-refer-to-god-in-masculine-terms/
Q:
Why does the Bible refer to God in masculine terms?
A:
The answer to the question about why God is referred to in masculine terms in the Bible really has only one answer: This is the way God has chosen to reveal Himself to us. God is never described with sexual characteristics in the Scriptures, but He does consistently describe Himself in the masculine gender.

While God contains all the qualities of both male and female genders, He has chosen to present Himself with an emphasis on masculine qualities of fatherhood, protection, direction, strength, etc. Metaphors used to describe Him in the Bible include: King, Father, Judge, Husband, Master, and the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

One famous Christian scholar, C. S. Lewis, has suggested that gender is far deeper than our human distinctions reveal. He suggests that God is so masculine that we all are feminine in relation to Him. If this is true, it might explain why the church is referred to as the bride of Christ, though it is composed of both men and women.

There are those who would like to blur this emphasis in some of the newer Bible translations, but it is very dangerous to tamper with the way God has chosen to reveal Himself. He most certainly does not intend to minimize women, since men and women are revealed as being made in His image and are of equal value to Him. But it remains that He is Father, not Mother, and even in the Incarnation chose to come to us as a man, Jesus Christ.

Naturally, none of this will convince you because you are not a rational thinker. And like Bob, you are an atheist/Marxist.
This thread started out being about The Pillow Guy... (show quote)


Not a rational thinker? When was the last time the Tooth Fairy paid you a visit?

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Oct 6, 2022 21:47:08   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
padremike wrote:
The Prayer is also found in Matthew whose Jewish Gospel is attributed to him. So why do you care when it was written. How do we know the gospels are authentic? Methodology. In evaluating the historical reliability of the Gospels, scholars consider authorship and date of composition, intention and genre, gospel sources and oral tradition, textual criticism, and historical authenticity of specific sayings and narrative events. How do you make your own determination?


No one cares what the ignorant unenlightened Marxist RR thinks. You may as well be talking to a brick wall. Mr. Dumass likes to goad people, especially when he gets encouragement from the other leftists, such as Bad Boob, on OPP.

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Oct 6, 2022 21:50:28   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Not a rational thinker? When was the last time the Tooth Fairy paid you a visit?


Your alter ego is also not a critical thinker.

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