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Aug 18, 2022 19:22:24   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
RandyBrian wrote:
You are not addressing the issues...just spewing platitudes again. Unfounded beliefs by someone who does not believe in God, and knows nothing about what the Bible teaches. Someone whose 'knowledge' comes from other know nothing individuals and articles.
The things you are saying above are lies. Simply not true.
Women have been voting for over a hundred years. And no doubt the glass ceiling DOES exist in some jobs. Neither of which has anything to do with the topic or what the Bible teaches or how Christians practice their beliefs.

Now answer the questions, please.
You are not addressing the issues...just spewing p... (show quote)

> by someone who does not believe in God and knows nothing about what the Bible teaches.<
Wrong. Brought up in a strict Christian community and paid attention.

One hundred years is recent history. So called Christians have rejected what Jesus taught and are reverting to 6,000 year old rules for a functioning society. But we are no longer hunters and gatherers.

And I do believe in God. Just not an Earth’s God. A universe wide God that merely creates and observes.

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Aug 18, 2022 19:25:36   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
RascalRiley wrote:
The statement I was responding to is
> There is NO such thing as compassionate abortion when the unborn are murdered!!!!< Some would want a wife and mother of four children to die rather than abort a dead fetus.
The most shamefully reprehensible thing about all this is you, Riley. You waltz through this forum dumping feces and stools everywhere you go, and you do this with nothing to support, verify or backup the shit you come up with.

Who, in God's name, would "want a wife and mother of four children to die rather than abort a dead fetus"?

The removal of a dead fetus from its mother's womb is a surgical procedure similar to the abortion of a live baby.

If a dead fetus is left in the mother's womb for more than two weeks, she may experience infection in the fetal materials and an increase in bleeding, if a dead fetus remains in utero beyond three to four weeks, the mother can develop problems with blood clotting, known as coagulopathy.

Since the baby is dead, in the interest of the mother's health, it is obvious that removal of the corpse is absolutely necessary. Moreover, a miscarriage also falls under the definition of an abortion, but this is a natural abortion.
Regardless of what may be preached from the pulpit, Christians have no objection to the removal of a dead baby from its mother's womb, and who could oppose the natural loss of a baby in a miscarriage?

The killing of a healthy live baby in the womb is entirely another matter altogether.

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Aug 18, 2022 19:35:39   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
The most shamefully reprehensible thing about all this is you, Riley. You waltz through this forum dumping feces and stools everywhere you go, and you do this with nothing to support, verify or backup the shit you come up with.

Who, in God's name, would "want a wife and mother of four children to die rather than abort a dead fetus"?

The removal of a dead fetus from its mother's womb is a surgical procedure similar to the abortion of a live baby.

If a dead fetus is left in the mother's womb for more than two weeks, she may experience infection in the fetal materials and an increase in bleeding, if a dead fetus remains in utero beyond three to four weeks, the mother can develop problems with blood clotting, known as coagulopathy.

Since the baby is dead, in the interest of the mother's health, it is obvious that removal of the corpse is absolutely necessary. Moreover, a miscarriage also falls under the definition of an abortion, but this is a natural abortion.
Regardless of what may be preached from the pulpit, Christians have no objection to the removal of a dead baby from its mother's womb, and who could oppose the natural loss of a baby in a miscarriage?

The killing of a healthy live baby in the womb is entirely another matter altogether.
The most shamefully reprehensible thing about all ... (show quote)

> Who, in God's name, would "want a wife and mother of four children to die rather than abort a dead fetus"<

I can imagine you saying this with a straight face and believing it is not happening. I wish I had your ability to pretend.

You do not know and since you do not want to know this is the consequences of the republican agenda you would never believe it.

It’s all about control and the right so wants to be in control they will sacrifice the country for it.

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Aug 18, 2022 20:06:16   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
RascalRiley wrote:
> nothing about what the Bible teaches.<
Wrong. Brought up in a strict Christian community and paid attention.

One hundred years is recent history. So called Christians have rejected what Jesus taught and are reverting to 6,000 year old rules for a functioning society. But we are no longer hunters and gatherers.

6000 year old rules? You got some explaining to do. I do not doubt that you are incapable of doing so, but give it a shot.
Enlighten us please as to why you believe Christians have rejected what Jesus taught 2000 years ago and have reverted to 6000 year old rules that no longer apply to Christians. Jesus made that perfectly clear.
Even practicing Jews today do not follow those ancient rules to the letter.

We are no longer "hunters and gatherers"? Say what?
Do you hunt for things, gather things?
I highly recommend you wake the hell up, there is a real world out here.

The biggest, most unforgivable mistake you are making is in denying the existence of a Creator and rejecting His scientific laws that govern the universe and the moral and social rules He established for a functioning and healthy society.

If only you had "paid attention" while you were "bought up in a strict Christian community".
I think you are lying about that, but that's just me going by the atheistic bullshit you post.

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Aug 18, 2022 20:09:24   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
RascalRiley wrote:
> Who, in God's name, would "want a wife and mother of four children to die rather than abort a dead fetus"<

I can imagine you saying this with a straight face and believing it is not happening. I wish I had your ability to pretend.

You do not know and since you do not want to know this is the consequences of the republican agenda you would never believe it.

It’s all about control and the right so wants to be in control they will sacrifice the country for it.
> Who, in God's name, would "want a wife a... (show quote)


Blade is right on target, and you continue to lie. Throwing out disgusting and untrue crap with no other motivation than to offend, apparently. You have made claims about what Christians believe. You have made claims about what preachers teach. You have made claims of doctors refusing to remove a dead child. You have made claims that doctors sent mothers home to wait for their unborn babies to die. You have made claims that the right approves of all of your nonsense and has no compassion for the affected individuals.
And you have completely refused to provide ONE SINGLE BIT of evidence for ANY of this garbage.
You, Rascal Riley, are a liar. Nothing but assumptions and speculation and those day dreams you love so much.

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Aug 18, 2022 20:12:40   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
6000 year old rules? You got some explaining to do. I do not doubt that you are incapable of doing so, but give it a shot.
Enlighten us please as to why you believe Christians have rejected what Jesus taught 2000 years ago and have reverted to 6000 year old rules that no longer apply to Christians. Jesus made that perfectly clear.
Even practicing Jews today do not follow those ancient rules to the letter.

We are no longer "hunters and gatherers"? Say what?
Do you hunt for things, gather things?
I highly recommend you wake the hell up, there is a real world out here.

The biggest, most unforgivable mistake you are making is in denying the existence of a Creator and rejecting His scientific laws that govern the universe and the moral and social rules He established for a functioning and healthy society.

If only you had "paid attention" while you were "bought up in a strict Christian community".
I think you are lying about that, but that's just me going by the atheistic bullshit you post.
6000 year old rules? You got some explaining to do... (show quote)


He is a sick SICK individual. Tossing out vile accusations with NO support, then essentially challenging us to prove him wrong.

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Aug 18, 2022 20:20:33   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
RascalRiley wrote:
> Who, in God's name, would "want a wife and mother of four children to die rather than abort a dead fetus"<

I can imagine you saying this with a straight face and believing it is not happening. I wish I had your ability to pretend.

You do not know and since you do not want to know this is the consequences of the republican agenda you would never believe it.

It’s all about control and the right so wants to be in control they will sacrifice the country for it.
> Who, in God's name, would "want a wife a... (show quote)
You ignorant jackass, let's pretend for the moment you know what the hell you are talking about.
Tell us what Republican agenda prohibits the removal of a dead fetus from a mother's womb.
Explain the absurd belief that Republicans are "all about control" and "will sacrifice the country for it" when the United States was founded as a Republican system of government - Article IV, Section 4, US Constitution.

You once admitted you have been indoctrinated. Obviously that is the only truth you've ever told.



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Aug 18, 2022 20:32:24   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
6000 year old rules? You got some explaining to do. I do not doubt that you are incapable of doing so, but give it a shot.
Enlighten us please as to why you believe Christians have rejected what Jesus taught 2000 years ago and have reverted to 6000 year old rules that no longer apply to Christians. Jesus made that perfectly clear.
Even practicing Jews today do not follow those ancient rules to the letter.

We are no longer "hunters and gatherers"? Say what?
Do you hunt for things, gather things?
I highly recommend you wake the hell up, there is a real world out here.

The biggest, most unforgivable mistake you are making is in denying the existence of a Creator and rejecting His scientific laws that govern the universe and the moral and social rules He established for a functioning and healthy society.

If only you had "paid attention" while you were "bought up in a strict Christian community".
I think you are lying about that, but that's just me going by the atheistic bullshit you post.
6000 year old rules? You got some explaining to do... (show quote)


>6000 year old rules? You got some explaining to do<

Let me explain

One rule from Leviticus, not the dozens of others, most of which would have you screaming against. Just one rule, written by some priest six thousand plus year ago. There literally are dozens of rules that so called Christian on both sides of the border do not adhere to.

But Christian go far beyond the teachings of Christ to make life difficult for gays. Practice killing adulterers and come see me. Then I will know you are not cherry picking for the pleasure of hate.

> We are no longer "hunters and gatherers"? Say what? <

You think short term as most people do and I tell you life would have been easier if I did.

But long term. History of humans it is only recent.

I do not deny the existence of a creator. I believe in the existence of something greater. I am old. What that is gives me lots to ponder.

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Aug 18, 2022 21:05:09   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
RascalRiley wrote:
>6000 year old rules? You got some explaining to do<

Let me explain

One rule from Leviticus, not the dozens of others, most of which would have you screaming against. Just one rule, written by some priest six thousand plus year ago. There literally are dozens of rules that so called Christian on both sides of the border do not adhere to.

But Christian go far beyond the teachings of Christ to make life difficult for gays. Practice killing adulterers and come see me. Then I will know you are not cherry picking for the pleasure of hate.

> We are no longer "hunters and gatherers"? Say what? <

You think short term as most people do and I tell you life would have been easier if I did.

But long term. History of humans it is only recent.

I do not deny the existence of a creator. I believe in the existence of something greater. I am old. What that is gives me lots to ponder.
>6000 year old rules? You got some explaining t... (show quote)

Think not that I come to abolish the law and the prophets, I come not to abolish, but to fulfill.
Jesus, Sermon on the Mount.

What do you suppose Jesus meant by that?

Belief in "something greater" without clearly defining who or what that something is doesn't cut it.
A creator has a purpose for creating something, and anyone without the knowledge or understanding of the purpose something is created and the rules that govern it is truly lost. Basically you are saying you have no clue what it is you believe. It's a wonder you can even walk and chew gum at the same time.

To see a world in a grain of sand,
and heaven in a wild flower,
to hold infinity in the palm of your hand,
and eternity in an hour.

William Blake, Auguries of Innocence.

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Aug 18, 2022 21:10:29   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Blade is right on target, and you continue to lie. Throwing out disgusting and untrue crap with no other motivation than to offend, apparently. You have made claims about what Christians believe. You have made claims about what preachers teach. You have made claims of doctors refusing to remove a dead child. You have made claims that doctors sent mothers home to wait for their unborn babies to die. You have made claims that the right approves of all of your nonsense and has no compassion for the affected individuals.
And you have completely refused to provide ONE SINGLE BIT of evidence for ANY of this garbage.
You, Rascal Riley, are a liar. Nothing but assumptions and speculation and those day dreams you love so much.
Blade is right on target, and you continue to lie.... (show quote)


you continue to lie or disagree. Can someone have a valid opinion if you disagree with it? I am not good at that either.

These are opinions. I could site statistics galor and you would discount them as not being relevant to your agenda.

As for evidence, you refuse to believe MSM. You are screwed of the truth. As you believe I am. But we all live here.

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Aug 18, 2022 21:36:00   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Stay on topic or stop following.

The topic is the consequences on the social fabric of America. If you choose to see no negative consequences then the discussion not relevant for you.


Nor is it relevant for you!………“Rascal Riley” from Canada!

Why don’t you discuss what is relevant for Canadians? Why are you concerned with the social fabric of America? What a strange little man to be so obsessed with OUR country and to spend day after day, hour after hour, obsessing about our former President and other topics that have absolutely nothing to do with a Canadian……..

How many times must you be reminded that you can’t control how others choose to comment on any thread as long as the comments follow the rules of this forum. Disagreeing with you has never been or will ever be necessarily not staying on topic! Before you claim that I am not on topic…….I am responding to YOUR comment which makes me on topic as long as I am responding to a comment that you made!

BTW, This is deja vu! 🤗🥴 Do you realize how often Rumi expressed this exact same irritation using your exact words when unable to control the conversation? LOL!

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Aug 18, 2022 22:01:08   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
RascalRiley wrote:
> Liberals love to pull out some obscure example to justify the whole.<

Off topic. The discussion is about the consequences of a total ban on society.

My feeling about what limits are ok is not relevant.

And compassionate abortion is a discussion of that which takes multiple health and social issues into consideration.


There is no total ban against abortion in any state! Doctors will always be able to perform a necessary abortion/procedure when applicable for the health of the woman. No amount of your caterwauling or your outrage will change this!

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Aug 18, 2022 22:01:51   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Think not that I come to abolish the law and the prophets, I come not to abolish, but to fulfill.
Jesus, Sermon on the Mount.

What do you suppose Jesus meant by that?

Belief in "something greater" without clearly defining who or what that something is doesn't cut it.
A creator has a purpose for creating something, and anyone without the knowledge or understanding of the purpose something is created and the rules that govern it is truly lost. Basically you are saying you have no clue what it is you believe. It's a wonder you can even walk and chew gum at the same time.

To see a world in a grain of sand,
and heaven in a wild flower,
to hold infinity in the palm of your hand,
and eternity in an hour.

William Blake, Auguries of Innocence.
i Think not that I come to abolish the law and th... (show quote)

> Think not that I come to abolish the law and the prophets, I come not to abolish, but to fulfill.<

But he also preached two commandments prefaced with what they were replacing, and I welcome discuss

The two most important laws for Christians are Jesus’s Commandments.

Love a spiritual maker and love your neighbours, mankind. Forgive the all inclusive wording.

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Aug 18, 2022 22:04:53   #
Rose42
 
RascalRiley wrote:
The statement I was responding to is
> There is NO such thing as compassionate abortion when the unborn are murdered!!!!< Some would want a wife and mother of four children to die rather than abort a dead fetus.


Why do you tell such obvious lies? No one wants that

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Aug 18, 2022 22:09:03   #
Rose42
 
RascalRiley wrote:
> Think not that I come to abolish the law and the prophets, I come not to abolish, but to fulfill.<

But he also preached two commandments prefaced with what they were replacing, and I welcome discuss

The two most important laws for Christians are Jesus’s Commandments.

Love a spiritual maker and love your neighbours, mankind. Forgive the all inclusive wording.


No thats not correct.

Is English your second language?

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