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When Will People Learn To Place Blame Where It Belongs?...The Stupidity Of Blaming Presidents When It's Directly Legislators (Opioids)
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Jul 28, 2022 15:07:52   #
woodguru
 
Oh yeah, opioids are Biden's fault because (fill in the stupidity about the borders or Mexican cartels).

Border seizures are up from when Biden took office, this is not an indicator we have open borders, it's the opposite.

This opioid crisis was a recognized crisis back when Obama was president. The problem with passing laws that would actually put the hurt on the source of the problem was that the source was the drug industry that was making billions of dollars on a pain medication that should have been regulated 9 ways to Sunday.

These drugs were developed to deal with the most severe kinds of pain there is, cancers and things that were more end of life pain control like end of days levels. It was never intended for back pain, or knee injuries and such. The lower level drugs used for typical pain were always effective at managing that.

Opioids are so powerful they are attractive to recreational users that also happen to be highly addictive in personality. Doctors were prescribing them in numbers that were ludicrous. My neighbor had back surgery and brought home a bottle of 180 full strength Oxycodone polls. They were too strong for her, they were making her hallucinate so she stopped taking them. Her grandson offered her $2500 for them and told her to keep getting them and he'd keep giving her $2500 a bottle. This pissed her off so she asked me to dispose of them.

My point here is that pain pills are way over prescribed in terms of the types of pain they are for, and the numbers a doctor will give a patient. As an example, that back surgery pain is a thing that will only last for a few days, a week or two at the most, and the idea of pain meds is to take them when the pain is the worst and taper off as you don't need them anymore. Yet doctors will go to 180 right off the bat, and simply give a person another 180 every month.

The regulations on their use and prescribing protocols should have been harshly overseen, with doctors prescribing too much come down on like a ton of bricks. It's not that hard to create a database for doctors and what they prescribe that is entered at the pharmacy level.

Laws need to be passed to address the opioid crisis, and there were attempts at going after it at the source, which is manufacturing and distribution, again not rocket science to crack down on...if you don't have a political party that protects drug profits at all levels from manufacturing to distribution.

This isn't a border problem, it was created as a domestic manufacturing and distribution problem.

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Jul 28, 2022 15:10:44   #
woodguru
 
Then to add insult to injury, as opioid overdoses reached epidemic levels, the drug industry was asked to create an overdose drug, fentanyl, and they charge the government $700 a dose for it's emergency use. The drug companies should have been forced to foot the bill for emergency hospital and first responder use supplies, not make billions more addressing the problem they created in the first place.

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Jul 28, 2022 15:12:07   #
woodguru
 
I'll predict a certain number of people who's heads are so filled with the Biden's fault, open borders rhetoric and lies that they will not be able to process anything on what the heart and source of the problem is.

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Jul 28, 2022 15:13:08   #
Liberty Tree
 
woodguru wrote:
Oh yeah, opioids are Biden's fault because (fill in the stupidity about the borders or Mexican cartels).

Border seizures are up from when Biden took office, this is not an indicator we have open borders, it's the opposite.

This opioid crisis was a recognized crisis back when Obama was president. The problem with passing laws that would actually put the hurt on the source of the problem was that the source was the drug industry that was making billions of dollars on a pain medication that should have been regulated 9 ways to Sunday.

These drugs were developed to deal with the most severe kinds of pain there is, cancers and things that were more end of life pain control like end of days levels. It was never intended for back pain, or knee injuries and such. The lower level drugs used for typical pain were always effective at managing that.

Opioids are so powerful they are attractive to recreational users that also happen to be highly addictive in personality. Doctors were prescribing them in numbers that were ludicrous. My neighbor had back surgery and brought home a bottle of 180 full strength Oxycodone polls. They were too strong for her, they were making her hallucinate so she stopped taking them. Her grandson offered her $2500 for them and told her to keep getting them and he'd keep giving her $2500 a bottle. This pissed her off so she asked me to dispose of them.

My point here is that pain pills are way over prescribed in terms of the types of pain they are for, and the numbers a doctor will give a patient. As an example, that back surgery pain is a thing that will only last for a few days, a week or two at the most, and the idea of pain meds is to take them when the pain is the worst and taper off as you don't need them anymore. Yet doctors will go to 180 right off the bat, and simply give a person another 180 every month.

The regulations on their use and prescribing protocols should have been harshly overseen, with doctors prescribing too much come down on like a ton of bricks. It's not that hard to create a database for doctors and what they prescribe that is entered at the pharmacy level.

Laws need to be passed to address the opioid crisis, and there were attempts at going after it at the source, which is manufacturing and distribution, again not rocket science to crack down on...if you don't have a political party that protects drug profits at all levels from manufacturing to distribution.

This isn't a border problem, it was created as a domestic manufacturing and distribution problem.
Oh yeah, opioids are Biden's fault because (fill i... (show quote)


Such a pathetic attempt to try and cover Biden's open door border policy and the tens of thousands who have died from overdoses and other things because of it.

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Jul 28, 2022 15:21:37   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
woodguru wrote:
I'll predict a certain number of people who's heads are so filled with the Biden's fault, open borders rhetoric and lies that they will not be able to process anything on what the heart and source of the problem is.


Border patrol stops cars with Fentanyl every They seize millions of Fentanyl pills every single day... It's because of biden's ooen Border Policy and Mexican cartels know it, and laughing all the way to the bank..

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Jul 28, 2022 15:27:59   #
WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX
 
woodguru wrote:
Oh yeah, opioids are Biden's fault because (fill in the stupidity about the borders or Mexican cartels).

Border seizures are up from when Biden took office, this is not an indicator we have open borders, it's the opposite.

This opioid crisis was a recognized crisis back when Obama was president. The problem with passing laws that would actually put the hurt on the source of the problem was that the source was the drug industry that was making billions of dollars on a pain medication that should have been regulated 9 ways to Sunday.

These drugs were developed to deal with the most severe kinds of pain there is, cancers and things that were more end of life pain control like end of days levels. It was never intended for back pain, or knee injuries and such. The lower level drugs used for typical pain were always effective at managing that.

Opioids are so powerful they are attractive to recreational users that also happen to be highly addictive in personality. Doctors were prescribing them in numbers that were ludicrous. My neighbor had back surgery and brought home a bottle of 180 full strength Oxycodone polls. They were too strong for her, they were making her hallucinate so she stopped taking them. Her grandson offered her $2500 for them and told her to keep getting them and he'd keep giving her $2500 a bottle. This pissed her off so she asked me to dispose of them.

My point here is that pain pills are way over prescribed in terms of the types of pain they are for, and the numbers a doctor will give a patient. As an example, that back surgery pain is a thing that will only last for a few days, a week or two at the most, and the idea of pain meds is to take them when the pain is the worst and taper off as you don't need them anymore. Yet doctors will go to 180 right off the bat, and simply give a person another 180 every month.

The regulations on their use and prescribing protocols should have been harshly overseen, with doctors prescribing too much come down on like a ton of bricks. It's not that hard to create a database for doctors and what they prescribe that is entered at the pharmacy level.

Laws need to be passed to address the opioid crisis, and there were attempts at going after it at the source, which is manufacturing and distribution, again not rocket science to crack down on...if you don't have a political party that protects drug profits at all levels from manufacturing to distribution.

This isn't a border problem, it was created as a domestic manufacturing and distribution problem.
Oh yeah, opioids are Biden's fault because (fill i... (show quote)


Yeah, the cartels are gonna follow new drug laws .... just like Blue city thugs follow firearm law.

The DEA has been "fighting" the war against drugs for 40 years. Total failure, in line with everything the Fed Gub does.

No way Biden can crack down on the manufacture of fentanyl as he is blackmailed by China through his thug son's business dealings.

We need to bomb cartel outposts with Mexico's help and assistance. We need to shoot the swimmers midstream.

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Jul 28, 2022 16:07:36   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
woodguru wrote:
Then to add insult to injury, as opioid overdoses reached epidemic levels, the drug industry was asked to create an overdose drug, fentanyl, and they charge the government $700 a dose for it's emergency use. The drug companies should have been forced to foot the bill for emergency hospital and first responder use supplies, not make billions more addressing the problem they created in the first place.

Where do you come up with some of your information? 🫣

Try Google! LOL!

Naloxone is a life-saving medication that can reverse an overdose from opioids, including heroin, fentanyl, and prescription opioid medications. Often given as a nasal spray, naloxone is safe and easy to use.

Medications that are commonly used to treat addiction include the following:
Naltrexone or Vivitrol.
Buprenorphine, Suboxone, and Methadone.
Disulfiram or Antabuse.
Acamprosate or Campral.

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Jul 28, 2022 16:10:47   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
WinkyTink wrote:
Yeah, the cartels are gonna follow new drug laws .... just like Blue city thugs follow firearm law.

The DEA has been "fighting" the war against drugs for 40 years. Total failure, in line with everything the Fed Gub does.

No way Biden can crack down on the manufacture of fentanyl as he is blackmailed by China through his thug son's business dealings.

We need to bomb cartel outposts with Mexico's help and assistance. We need to shoot the swimmers midstream.


I have to comment tink,, you right wing goof balls always insist the crime is out of control in all the blue cities and that the crime will destroy said cities.. yet, you go on about how you all must have many guns and trunks full of ammo to protect yourselves from home invasion and other crime events in your neck of the woods..
Are you all just that much in fear or is crime in your neck of the woods out of control??

And by the way, It is very true the Opioid problem was a problem long before President Biden was in office..

I have to say, no complaint from me if the cartels got bombed.. shoot the swimmers in the water.. No not my style.. let em get high and dry first.. that is a joke.. no killing of those trying to gain access to our country... follow the law or change it..

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Jul 28, 2022 16:11:38   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
woodguru wrote:
Oh yeah, opioids are Biden's fault because (fill in the stupidity about the borders or Mexican cartels).

Border seizures are up from when Biden took office, this is not an indicator we have open borders, it's the opposite.

This opioid crisis was a recognized crisis back when Obama was president. The problem with passing laws that would actually put the hurt on the source of the problem was that the source was the drug industry that was making billions of dollars on a pain medication that should have been regulated 9 ways to Sunday.

These drugs were developed to deal with the most severe kinds of pain there is, cancers and things that were more end of life pain control like end of days levels. It was never intended for back pain, or knee injuries and such. The lower level drugs used for typical pain were always effective at managing that.

Opioids are so powerful they are attractive to recreational users that also happen to be highly addictive in personality. Doctors were prescribing them in numbers that were ludicrous. My neighbor had back surgery and brought home a bottle of 180 full strength Oxycodone polls. They were too strong for her, they were making her hallucinate so she stopped taking them. Her grandson offered her $2500 for them and told her to keep getting them and he'd keep giving her $2500 a bottle. This pissed her off so she asked me to dispose of them.

My point here is that pain pills are way over prescribed in terms of the types of pain they are for, and the numbers a doctor will give a patient. As an example, that back surgery pain is a thing that will only last for a few days, a week or two at the most, and the idea of pain meds is to take them when the pain is the worst and taper off as you don't need them anymore. Yet doctors will go to 180 right off the bat, and simply give a person another 180 every month.

The regulations on their use and prescribing protocols should have been harshly overseen, with doctors prescribing too much come down on like a ton of bricks. It's not that hard to create a database for doctors and what they prescribe that is entered at the pharmacy level.

Laws need to be passed to address the opioid crisis, and there were attempts at going after it at the source, which is manufacturing and distribution, again not rocket science to crack down on...if you don't have a political party that protects drug profits at all levels from manufacturing to distribution.

This isn't a border problem, it was created as a domestic manufacturing and distribution problem.
Oh yeah, opioids are Biden's fault because (fill i... (show quote)


“Border seizures are up from when Biden took office, this is not an indicator we have open borders, it's the opposite”



If the border seizures are up, wouldn’t that be an indication that more traffic is coming across the border! I don’t know……seems like common sense to me! 😏

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Jul 28, 2022 16:18:23   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
permafrost wrote:
I have to comment tink,, you right wing goof balls always insist the crime is out of control in all the blue cities and that the crime will destroy said cities.. yet, you go on about how you all must have many guns and trunks full of ammo to protect yourselves from home invasion and other crime events in your neck of the woods..
Are you all just that much in fear or is crime in your neck of the woods out of control??

And by the way, It is very true the Opioid problem was a problem long before President Biden was in office..

I have to say, no complaint from me if the cartels got bombed.. shoot the swimmers in the water.. No not my style.. let em get high and dry first.. that is a joke.. no killing of those trying to gain access to our country... follow the law or change it..
I have to comment tink,, you right wing goof balls... (show quote)


Owning and carrying a gun alleviates fear!………Wherever a person lives!

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Jul 28, 2022 16:19:02   #
liberalhunter Loc: Your mom's house
 
woodguru wrote:
Oh yeah, opioids are Biden's fault because (fill in the stupidity about the borders or Mexican cartels).

Border seizures are up from when Biden took office, this is not an indicator we have open borders, it's the opposite.

This opioid crisis was a recognized crisis back when Obama was president. The problem with passing laws that would actually put the hurt on the source of the problem was that the source was the drug industry that was making billions of dollars on a pain medication that should have been regulated 9 ways to Sunday.

These drugs were developed to deal with the most severe kinds of pain there is, cancers and things that were more end of life pain control like end of days levels. It was never intended for back pain, or knee injuries and such. The lower level drugs used for typical pain were always effective at managing that.

Opioids are so powerful they are attractive to recreational users that also happen to be highly addictive in personality. Doctors were prescribing them in numbers that were ludicrous. My neighbor had back surgery and brought home a bottle of 180 full strength Oxycodone polls. They were too strong for her, they were making her hallucinate so she stopped taking them. Her grandson offered her $2500 for them and told her to keep getting them and he'd keep giving her $2500 a bottle. This pissed her off so she asked me to dispose of them.

My point here is that pain pills are way over prescribed in terms of the types of pain they are for, and the numbers a doctor will give a patient. As an example, that back surgery pain is a thing that will only last for a few days, a week or two at the most, and the idea of pain meds is to take them when the pain is the worst and taper off as you don't need them anymore. Yet doctors will go to 180 right off the bat, and simply give a person another 180 every month.

The regulations on their use and prescribing protocols should have been harshly overseen, with doctors prescribing too much come down on like a ton of bricks. It's not that hard to create a database for doctors and what they prescribe that is entered at the pharmacy level.

Laws need to be passed to address the opioid crisis, and there were attempts at going after it at the source, which is manufacturing and distribution, again not rocket science to crack down on...if you don't have a political party that protects drug profits at all levels from manufacturing to distribution.

This isn't a border problem, it was created as a domestic manufacturing and distribution problem.
Oh yeah, opioids are Biden's fault because (fill i... (show quote)




Feeble attempt..... best to be thought a fool than to keep putting it in print and proving it like a good party hack.

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Jul 28, 2022 16:35:04   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
TexaCan wrote:
Owning and carrying a gun alleviates fear!………Wherever a person lives!


maybe you are correct.. often I carry one of my guns deep into the adjoining wild life refuge next to us. and every time I have felt calm and unthreatened.. Fearless in fact..

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Jul 28, 2022 19:15:48   #
WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX
 
permafrost wrote:
I have to comment tink,, you right wing goof balls always insist the crime is out of control in all the blue cities and that the crime will destroy said cities.. yet, you go on about how you all must have many guns and trunks full of ammo to protect yourselves from home invasion and other crime events in your neck of the woods..
Are you all just that much in fear or is crime in your neck of the woods out of control??

And by the way, It is very true the Opioid problem was a problem long before President Biden was in office..

I have to say, no complaint from me if the cartels got bombed.. shoot the swimmers in the water.. No not my style.. let em get high and dry first.. that is a joke.. no killing of those trying to gain access to our country... follow the law or change it..
I have to comment tink,, you right wing goof balls... (show quote)



NWR.

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Jul 29, 2022 15:17:06   #
dibaniba
 
Biden isn't our president...he just follows someone else's orders...could be Obama...they don't do anything right and are destroying America!

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Jul 29, 2022 15:23:56   #
dibaniba
 
Hay...Biden invited them in...he is to be blamed!!!

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