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Jul 27, 2022 20:58:40   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
kemmer wrote:
Nah, Trump is a open book. He says everything that pops into his vacuous little head. “Shallow” would be an understatement.


Word salad. Read my mind.

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Jul 27, 2022 21:19:39   #
Big Bass
 
kemmer wrote:
If Donny were president, he’d probably be sending arms to Russia instead of Ukraine.


How childish. NWR.

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Jul 27, 2022 21:22:21   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
If Trump were president…
I’m starting a new thread.
It’ll be interesting

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Jul 27, 2022 21:42:29   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Birdmam wrote:
Yes I heard Trump is changing the definition of a recession

That was Biden. Sarcasm noted

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Jul 28, 2022 04:49:10   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
Okay you all, I think the Ingraham Angle said it best and there is more evidence to support Laura Ingraham then there is to support the Jan 6 committee hearing.

Fact: The government of the United States is being used to hunt down and destroy a single American Citizen--Donald J Trump.

This endeavor began in 2015, when Donald Trump announced his candidacy for president.

First it was Russian Collusion which proved to be a made up story by the Hillary Clinton Campaign. The FBI falsely investigated Trump. Robert Mueller would eventually come to the conclusion that Trump did not collude with Russia. However, the bad publicity ruined two years of the Trump administration.

Then the Democrats falsely accused in the House of Representatives that Donald Trump:

Allegations that Trump sought help from Ukrainian authorities to favor him in the 2020 U.S. presidential election

Ultimately the Senate, acquitted Trump on all charges.

The Democrats lost in two attempts at the president. Then Jan 6th happened and they went for round three.

The second false accusation against Trump in the House of Representatives brought forth the second impeachment trial:

The cause: Trump's conduct before and during the U.S. Capitol attack; Trump–Raffensperger phone call.

Trump again was acquitted on the charges of insurrection at the capital.

So here we are again, the Democrats, who are now in control of both houses of congress, are using the power of the United States Government to go after Donald Trump. This is completely political and there is no judicial evidence supporting their alligation that Trump committed sedition or seditious acts up to and including insurrection or rebellion.

The Biden Justice Department is investigating once again Donald Trump. Why?

Simply because the Democrats and the Rinos cannot beat him in a fair fight.

So, now I pose this question to every American:

Do you think it is right, to have the power of the Government, the power of the enforcing agency-Justice Department, Congress, et al., weaponized against a single American Citizen?

I don't. And to carry on in this charade like this, is more destructive than seeking justice. What say you?

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Jul 28, 2022 06:49:41   #
Radiance3
 
slatten49 wrote:
Is Donald Trump allowed to defend himself during the "Jan 6th hearings", or is his access to the hearings denied or restricted?

There are two things that need to be underscored here.

Firstly, Donald Trump and the Republicans have been repeatedly asked if they wished to participate in bipartisan investigations to look into the events of January 6th, and they have repeatedly refused to do so. Senate Republicans outright declined to form a committee, so the House was forced to do so without their participation. If any of them wished to testify or offer a rebuttal, they would certainly be invited to do so, but the obvious danger is that the House Select Committee was impaneled with Congressional authority, so lying to them is a federal offense.

Secondly, recognize that this is not a criminal trial, but rather a series of hearings that are allowing the committee to present testimony and evidence to the public, all with a view to maintaining the transparency of the process, and showing the nation what they have managed to pull together over the past year. We’ve heard testimony from witnesses, seen documents presented to us – and that they all make it clear that Donald Trump was responsible for the actions that took place on January 6th. There’s been no evidence exonerating Trump, but if the committee had found any, that would have been presented – we’re simply not going to see any because it doesn’t exist. Every new piece of evidence or testimony makes it clear that neither Trump nor the Republican Party that supported him were innocent in their actions.

That observed, should the Justice Department ultimately pursue charges against Trump et al on the back of the House Select Committee’s findings, he will of course have a chance to present his defense to the evidence gathered against him – but, in reality, it doesn’t seem like he’ll be able to do so effectively. As with Congress, it’s a felony to lie to a court once sworn in under oath – and that will be the natural first step for any testimony that Trump or his colleagues would wish to provide. There’s a reason that the Republicans have refused to cooperate, after all: if they lie (which they’d have to, to justify their actions), they’ll end up being caught out in a lie, and consequently end up in serious legal trouble, above and beyond what they’re already facing.

The Committee has done an excellent job laying out the fact that Donald Trump knew that the 2020 Presidential election hadn’t been stolen from him, and that his actions afterwards were entirely malicious, and engaged in with a view to try and overturn a legitimate election in his favor. January 6th was simply the finally roll of the dice: a pre-meditated incident intended to gather his supporters, stoke their rage and frustration, and then direct them at the US Capitol Building with a view to directly interfering with a significant act of Government (indeed, one dictated by the Constitution itself!), and potentially even harming elected officials. All with the goal of reversing the election and keeping Donald Trump in power. Not only is that an attempted coup d’etat, but it qualifies as an act of Seditious Conspiracy, under 18 U.S. Code § 2384*.

If Trump wishes to offer a rebuttal to the January 6th Committee on these things, all he needs to do is agree to testify before them. You can guarantee that such a thing will be televised, if he wanted it that way, but Donald Trump would never take that risk: to be put in front of the cameras, and elected members of Congress, and required to swear an oath before Congress, and held accountable under law if he lies…which he would. That would just result in him being in even more significant trouble than he already is, which is why Trump and the Republicans prefer to attempt to discredit the Committee itself, rather than actively attempting to rebut the evidence gathered. They can’t defend the indefensible, so they prefer to attack the institution attempting to hold them accountable.

Still, it’s not the first time that Trump and his supporters have attacked Congress, is it?
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*§2384. Seditious conspiracy. If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United ...
Is Donald Trump allowed to defend himself during t... (show quote)

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Jul 28, 2022 07:10:50   #
Radiance3
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
Okay you all, I think the Ingraham Angle said it best and there is more evidence to support Laura Ingraham then there is to support the Jan 6 committee hearing.

Fact: The government of the United States is being used to hunt down and destroy a single American Citizen--Donald J Trump.

This endeavor began in 2015, when Donald Trump announced his candidacy for president.

First it was Russian Collusion which proved to be a made up story by the Hillary Clinton Campaign. The FBI falsely investigated Trump. Robert Mueller would eventually come to the conclusion that Trump did not collude with Russia. However, the bad publicity ruined two years of the Trump administration.

Then the Democrats falsely accused in the House of Representatives that Donald Trump:

Allegations that Trump sought help from Ukrainian authorities to favor him in the 2020 U.S. presidential election

Ultimately the Senate, acquitted Trump on all charges.

The Democrats lost in two attempts at the president. Then Jan 6th happened and they went for round three.

The second false accusation against Trump in the House of Representatives brought forth the second impeachment trial:

The cause: Trump's conduct before and during the U.S. Capitol attack; Trump–Raffensperger phone call.

Trump again was acquitted on the charges of insurrection at the capital.

So here we are again, the Democrats, who are now in control of both houses of congress, are using the power of the United States Government to go after Donald Trump. This is completely political and there is no judicial evidence supporting their alligation that Trump committed sedition or seditious acts up to and including insurrection or rebellion.

The Biden Justice Department is investigating once again Donald Trump. Why?

Simply because the Democrats and the Rinos cannot beat him in a fair fight.

So, now I pose this question to every American:

Do you think it is right, to have the power of the Government, the power of the enforcing agency-Justice Department, Congress, et al., weaponized against a single American Citizen?

I don't. And to carry on in this charade like this, is more destructive than seeking justice. What say you?
Okay you all, I think the Ingraham Angle said it b... (show quote)

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The constitutional rights of Donald Trump and the Republicans were violated. Not allowed to criticize or question the Nov. 2020 election.
Example, the wife of Justice Thomas was summoned for investigation by the DOJ. She questioned about the fraudulent election on Nov. 2020. She has constitutional rights to do that. There were massive evidences to prove the fraud. Donald Trump was accused of Insurrection when he was not even present at the Capitol. And he advised all his audience to go home on peace after the rally. Pelosi and Bowser denied the offer of the 10,000 -20,000 National Guards . Sec. Miller, Gen Miley, and Kash Patel have records of that when president Trump suggested the offer on Jan 3rd and Jan 4th. Pelosi lied and denied.

Not allowed to complain about the massive 2020 election fraud found and proven by so many. Right solution to this should have been put to trial and those who could prove it be brought to the open to disclose and prove. They were not allowed to do that instead, they want to arrest and convict anybody who complained. Fabricated lies and issues and blamed them on Trump. Lies and testimonies of the Witnesses who were under oath. Many lies of Les Cheney were committed. She message of Trump she doctored it. The 20,000 National Guard offer, she denied it did not happen when there were evidences to prove it did happen.

DOJ Garland is waiting and so in a hurry to convict Trump, cause he said, Trump is quilty.

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Jul 28, 2022 07:56:39   #
BIRDMAN
 
RascalRiley wrote:
That was Biden. Sarcasm noted



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Jul 28, 2022 09:19:09   #
whole2th
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Russia like Donny


Yes.

Consider the Brandon regime that supports bombing ethnic Russians in Donbas and threatens nuclear war (the New York duck and cover piece).

Consider the 30 Pentagon-funded and Black and Veatch engineered bioweapons labs near the Russian border.

Consider NATO threats of missile sites in Ukraine.

Trump would not have promoted any of these threats to Russia.

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Jul 28, 2022 09:24:39   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
whole2th wrote:
Yes.

Consider the Brandon regime that supports bombing ethnic Russians in Donbas and threatens nuclear war (the New York duck and cover piece).

Consider the 30 Pentagon-funded and Black and Veatch engineered bioweapons labs near the Russian border.

Consider NATO threats of missile sites in Ukraine.

Trump would not have promoted any of these threats to Russia.


He would have ignored what ever Putin did and gone golfing on the taxpayers dime.

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Jul 28, 2022 09:26:24   #
Big Bass
 
RascalRiley wrote:
He would have ignored what ever Putin did and gone golfing on the taxpayers dime.


And you proof is….??

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Jul 28, 2022 09:37:21   #
BIRDMAN
 
RascalRiley wrote:
He would have ignored what ever Putin did and gone golfing on the taxpayers dime.


How long have you been a psychic do you do readings are you a gypsy

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Jul 28, 2022 09:38:27   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Big Bass wrote:
And you proof is….??

Speculation based on his past

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Jul 28, 2022 09:43:15   #
Big Bass
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Speculation based on his past


Good heavens, rascule! You actually and finally told the truth! Well done! Speculation is much the same as opinion, therefore not necessarily the truth, as in this case.

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Jul 28, 2022 09:45:30   #
kemmer
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Not allowed to complain about the massive 2020 election fraud found and proven by so many.

Disproven by 60+ courts.

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