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Feb 24, 2022 09:20:38   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
“Today the World Has Changed.” The Kremlin recognized the Russian territories that Lenin had folded into the Ukraine as independent states and gave the Ukrainian Nazis an ultimatum to cease its attacks on the Donbass Russians. The Russian Armed Forces were issued orders to ensure provision of peace on the territory of the independent republics.

Unfortunately, the dumbshit Ukrainians didn’t hear and neither did the dumbshits in Washington. Instead of avoiding conflict, the dumbasses provoked one, and it arrived this morning. What a collection of fools the Western World is.

The Ukrainian attacks on Donbass did not stop. According to some reports they intensified. If the Ukrainian Nazis thought that Russia was going to ask for more negotiations, they learned differently as this morning news reveals.

In a televised address President Putin announced this morning a military operation to “demilitarize and denazify Ukraine.”

As it is impossible to learn anything factual from the fake news Western media, I will do my best to tell you what is happening.

As far as I can tell, at this time of writing there are no Russian troops involved. Russian troops don’t even seem to have been sent to the territory of the republics. Using precision weapons the Russian military has disabled Ukrainian military infrastructure facilities, air defenses, military airfields and aircraft. Putin has announced that Ukrainian soldiers who lay down their arms will not be attacked. Tass reports that “Ukrainian troops are leaving their positions in large numbers, dropping their weapons.” Clearly, the Ukrainian soldiers have more sense than their leaders.

The West, of course, is screaming its impotent accusations, but the barrage of Western media lies will have no effect on the outcome. If the Western World had any intelligent leaders, what would they conclude? They would conclude that the days of baiting the bear are over. As I have reported for some time, Russia has had enough of the West’s lies, deceptions, insults, and provocations. Henceforth, when Russia tells them something, they would do well to turn their ears on. Putin has said that Russia will not permit Ukraine to develop nuclear weapons, and he has said that Russia will not tolerate US/NATO bases on her borders. The US and NATO had better believe it.

Putin said Russia has no intention to occupy Ukraine. Russia does not want Ukraine, but Russia will not permit the continued militarization of the country by the US and NATO or the Ukrainian attacks on the Donbass Russians. The West had better understand this.

The US and Germany have declared that no troops will be sent, a hopeful sign that sanity might return to the West.

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Feb 24, 2022 09:28:49   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Ri-chard wrote:
“Today the World Has Changed.” The Kremlin recognized the Russian territories that Lenin had folded into the Ukraine as independent states and gave the Ukrainian Nazis an ultimatum to cease its attacks on the Donbass Russians. The Russian Armed Forces were issued orders to ensure provision of peace on the territory of the independent republics.

Unfortunately, the dumbshit Ukrainians didn’t hear and neither did the dumbshits in Washington. Instead of avoiding conflict, the dumbasses provoked one, and it arrived this morning. What a collection of fools the Western World is.

The Ukrainian attacks on Donbass did not stop. According to some reports they intensified. If the Ukrainian Nazis thought that Russia was going to ask for more negotiations, they learned differently as this morning news reveals.

In a televised address President Putin announced this morning a military operation to “demilitarize and denazify Ukraine.”

As it is impossible to learn anything factual from the fake news Western media, I will do my best to tell you what is happening.

As far as I can tell, at this time of writing there are no Russian troops involved. Russian troops don’t even seem to have been sent to the territory of the republics. Using precision weapons the Russian military has disabled Ukrainian military infrastructure facilities, air defenses, military airfields and aircraft. Putin has announced that Ukrainian soldiers who lay down their arms will not be attacked. Tass reports that “Ukrainian troops are leaving their positions in large numbers, dropping their weapons.” Clearly, the Ukrainian soldiers have more sense than their leaders.

The West, of course, is screaming its impotent accusations, but the barrage of Western media lies will have no effect on the outcome. If the Western World had any intelligent leaders, what would they conclude? They would conclude that the days of baiting the bear are over. As I have reported for some time, Russia has had enough of the West’s lies, deceptions, insults, and provocations. Henceforth, when Russia tells them something, they would do well to turn their ears on. Putin has said that Russia will not permit Ukraine to develop nuclear weapons, and he has said that Russia will not tolerate US/NATO bases on her borders. The US and NATO had better believe it.

Putin said Russia has no intention to occupy Ukraine. Russia does not want Ukraine, but Russia will not permit the continued militarization of the country by the US and NATO or the Ukrainian attacks on the Donbass Russians. The West had better understand this.

The US and Germany have declared that no troops will be sent, a hopeful sign that sanity might return to the West.
“Today the World Has Changed.” The Kremlin recogn... (show quote)


Way to go comrade

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Feb 24, 2022 09:43:09   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Way to go comrade


Thank you, Comrade Sphincter

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Feb 24, 2022 13:06:30   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Way to go comrade


Tell us Exhalted One,
your take on the situation,
or even a hint as to what you believe the best remedy to the course of events that have unfolded do to the piss poor leadership that has been PUT in place.
War?
You gonna fight it? Are you even ready for the ramifications of what this Administration has done so far?
Ukraine is NOT our, or NATOs problem, this isn't Poland, we have NO obligations to Ukraine.
At best its a U.N. problem

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Feb 24, 2022 17:41:57   #
Gatsby
 
Ri-chard wrote:
“Today the World Has Changed.” The Kremlin recognized the Russian territories that Lenin had folded into the Ukraine as independent states and gave the Ukrainian Nazis an ultimatum to cease its attacks on the Donbass Russians. The Russian Armed Forces were issued orders to ensure provision of peace on the territory of the independent republics.

Unfortunately, the dumbshit Ukrainians didn’t hear and neither did the dumbshits in Washington. Instead of avoiding conflict, the dumbasses provoked one, and it arrived this morning. What a collection of fools the Western World is.

The Ukrainian attacks on Donbass did not stop. According to some reports they intensified. If the Ukrainian Nazis thought that Russia was going to ask for more negotiations, they learned differently as this morning news reveals.

In a televised address President Putin announced this morning a military operation to “demilitarize and denazify Ukraine.”

As it is impossible to learn anything factual from the fake news Western media, I will do my best to tell you what is happening.

As far as I can tell, at this time of writing there are no Russian troops involved. Russian troops don’t even seem to have been sent to the territory of the republics. Using precision weapons the Russian military has disabled Ukrainian military infrastructure facilities, air defenses, military airfields and aircraft. Putin has announced that Ukrainian soldiers who lay down their arms will not be attacked. Tass reports that “Ukrainian troops are leaving their positions in large numbers, dropping their weapons.” Clearly, the Ukrainian soldiers have more sense than their leaders.

The West, of course, is screaming its impotent accusations, but the barrage of Western media lies will have no effect on the outcome. If the Western World had any intelligent leaders, what would they conclude? They would conclude that the days of baiting the bear are over. As I have reported for some time, Russia has had enough of the West’s lies, deceptions, insults, and provocations. Henceforth, when Russia tells them something, they would do well to turn their ears on. Putin has said that Russia will not permit Ukraine to develop nuclear weapons, and he has said that Russia will not tolerate US/NATO bases on her borders. The US and NATO had better believe it.

Putin said Russia has no intention to occupy Ukraine. Russia does not want Ukraine, but Russia will not permit the continued militarization of the country by the US and NATO or the Ukrainian attacks on the Donbass Russians. The West had better understand this.

The US and Germany have declared that no troops will be sent, a hopeful sign that sanity might return to the West.
“Today the World Has Changed.” The Kremlin recogn... (show quote)


Have you noticed the "FAKE NEWS" that Russia "Declared" the Independence of Donetsk and Luhansk?

Either the MSM are all imbeciles, or they think that we are.

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Feb 24, 2022 18:43:28   #
woodguru
 
Ri-chard wrote:
“Today the World Has Changed.” The Kremlin recognized the Russian territories that Lenin had folded into the Ukraine as independent states and gave the Ukrainian Nazis an ultimatum to cease its attacks on the Donbass Russians. The Russian Armed Forces were issued orders to ensure provision of peace on the territory of the independent republics.

Unfortunately, the dumbshit Ukrainians didn’t hear and neither did the dumbshits in Washington. Instead of avoiding conflict, the dumbasses provoked one, and it arrived this morning. What a collection of fools the Western World is.

The Ukrainian attacks on Donbass did not stop. According to some reports they intensified. If the Ukrainian Nazis thought that Russia was going to ask for more negotiations, they learned differently as this morning news reveals.

In a televised address President Putin announced this morning a military operation to “demilitarize and denazify Ukraine.”

As it is impossible to learn anything factual from the fake news Western media, I will do my best to tell you what is happening.

As far as I can tell, at this time of writing there are no Russian troops involved. Russian troops don’t even seem to have been sent to the territory of the republics. Using precision weapons the Russian military has disabled Ukrainian military infrastructure facilities, air defenses, military airfields and aircraft. Putin has announced that Ukrainian soldiers who lay down their arms will not be attacked. Tass reports that “Ukrainian troops are leaving their positions in large numbers, dropping their weapons.” Clearly, the Ukrainian soldiers have more sense than their leaders.

The West, of course, is screaming its impotent accusations, but the barrage of Western media lies will have no effect on the outcome. If the Western World had any intelligent leaders, what would they conclude? They would conclude that the days of baiting the bear are over. As I have reported for some time, Russia has had enough of the West’s lies, deceptions, insults, and provocations. Henceforth, when Russia tells them something, they would do well to turn their ears on. Putin has said that Russia will not permit Ukraine to develop nuclear weapons, and he has said that Russia will not tolerate US/NATO bases on her borders. The US and NATO had better believe it.

Putin said Russia has no intention to occupy Ukraine. Russia does not want Ukraine, but Russia will not permit the continued militarization of the country by the US and NATO or the Ukrainian attacks on the Donbass Russians. The West had better understand this.

The US and Germany have declared that no troops will be sent, a hopeful sign that sanity might return to the West.
“Today the World Has Changed.” The Kremlin recogn... (show quote)


That sounds straight out of Putin's smelly butt crack...disinformation at it's finest...and why are you peddling this crap? Contradictory to a ri-tarded degree

...Russia has no troops there...yet city airports and military installations are under attack including Kyiv
...Russia has disabled Ukrainian military with precision arms...with what troops?

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Feb 24, 2022 18:44:27   #
woodguru
 
Gatsby wrote:
Have you noticed the "FAKE NEWS" that Russia "Declared" the Independence of Donetsk and Luhansk?

Either the MSM are all imbeciles, or they think that we are.


Actually that would have been in Putin's speech, which the MSM is covering in detail

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Feb 25, 2022 14:38:25   #
Grandpa Rick
 
You have apparently drunk the Kool-aid. Now that we have all seen the TV coverage, perhaps your view of reality has shifted. I would like to think so, as my opinion after reading your post was "intelligent, but misguided".

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Feb 25, 2022 22:10:24   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
woodguru wrote:
That sounds straight out of Putin's smelly butt crack...disinformation at it's finest...and why are you peddling this crap? Contradictory to a ri-tarded degree

...Russia has no troops there...yet city airports and military installations are under attack including Kyiv
...Russia has disabled Ukrainian military with precision arms...with what troops?


You keep those thoughts, they are good for us.

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Apr 9, 2022 23:49:47   #
Grandpa Rick
 
Ri-chard wrote:
“Today the World Has Changed.” The Kremlin recognized the Russian territories that Lenin had folded into the Ukraine as independent states and gave the Ukrainian Nazis an ultimatum to cease its attacks on the Donbass Russians. The Russian Armed Forces were issued orders to ensure provision of peace on the territory of the independent republics.

Unfortunately, the dumbshit Ukrainians didn’t hear and neither did the dumbshits in Washington. Instead of avoiding conflict, the dumbasses provoked one, and it arrived this morning. What a collection of fools the Western World is.

The Ukrainian attacks on Donbass did not stop. According to some reports they intensified. If the Ukrainian Nazis thought that Russia was going to ask for more negotiations, they learned differently as this morning news reveals.

In a televised address President Putin announced this morning a military operation to “demilitarize and denazify Ukraine.”

As it is impossible to learn anything factual from the fake news Western media, I will do my best to tell you what is happening.

As far as I can tell, at this time of writing there are no Russian troops involved. Russian troops don’t even seem to have been sent to the territory of the republics. Using precision weapons the Russian military has disabled Ukrainian military infrastructure facilities, air defenses, military airfields and aircraft. Putin has announced that Ukrainian soldiers who lay down their arms will not be attacked. Tass reports that “Ukrainian troops are leaving their positions in large numbers, dropping their weapons.” Clearly, the Ukrainian soldiers have more sense than their leaders.

The West, of course, is screaming its impotent accusations, but the barrage of Western media lies will have no effect on the outcome. If the Western World had any intelligent leaders, what would they conclude? They would conclude that the days of baiting the bear are over. As I have reported for some time, Russia has had enough of the West’s lies, deceptions, insults, and provocations. Henceforth, when Russia tells them something, they would do well to turn their ears on. Putin has said that Russia will not permit Ukraine to develop nuclear weapons, and he has said that Russia will not tolerate US/NATO bases on her borders. The US and NATO had better believe it.

Putin said Russia has no intention to occupy Ukraine. Russia does not want Ukraine, but Russia will not permit the continued militarization of the country by the US and NATO or the Ukrainian attacks on the Donbass Russians. The West had better understand this.

The US and Germany have declared that no troops will be sent, a hopeful sign that sanity might return to the West.
“Today the World Has Changed.” The Kremlin recogn... (show quote)


I bet you surrendered your lunch money to the school bully without ant protest.

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Apr 10, 2022 00:24:09   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
Grandpa Rick wrote:
I bet you surrendered your lunch money to the school bully without ant protest.


No he got sucker punched like you would have. How come the likes of you and yours on this site cannot speak to the subject matter within the news post?

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Apr 10, 2022 00:35:01   #
Grandpa Rick
 
Ri-chard wrote:
No he got sucker punched like you would have. How come the likes of you and yours on this site cannot speak to the subject matter within the news post?


I've posted ar least twice my view, which is shared by many knowledgeable people but of course not all, that Putin is trying to keep his vow to reconstitute the old Soviet Union. Evidenced by his actions; his words cannot be believed.

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Apr 10, 2022 04:47:57   #
Gatsby
 
woodguru wrote:
Actually that would have been in Putin's speech, which the MSM is covering in detail


Putin didn't "declare" squat, he "recognized" their independence.

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Apr 10, 2022 10:00:36   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
Grandpa Rick wrote:
I've posted ar least twice my view, which is shared by many knowledgeable people but of course not all, that Putin is trying to keep his vow to reconstitute the old Soviet Union. Evidenced by his actions; his words cannot be believed.


Do you know for how many centuries Ukraine has been a part of Russia?
Do you know it was Russia that collapsed the Kazarian Empire and the survivors scattered across Europe changing their ID?
Do you know that only a portion of the Russian speaking people of Ukraine want to continue being a part of Russia and it is those Russia is protecting?
Do you know Russia never invaded, they always had a presence in Ukraine?
Do you know the Russian speaking people of Ukraine have been at war with the Nazi regime for over 8 years and have been bombed by them?
And do you know that these Ukraine Nazi worked with the German Nazis in WWII killing Ukrainians?
Do you know what NATO said they wouldn't do to Russia after WWII they did anyhow. Any now Russia a Christian orthodox country is surrounded by Nato on their boarders?
Do you know who lost more people to the communist and Nazis than any one else, and that it was in the millions?
Do you or your so called in the know sources know this - yes they do - but it is an avoided conversation.

Russia does not want to reestablish the old Communist Empire. They want to remain as a Sovereign and Christian country? Turn off the TV News.

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Apr 10, 2022 12:54:58   #
Grandpa Rick
 
Ri-chard wrote:
Do you know for how many centuries Ukraine has been a part of Russia?
Do you know it was Russia that collapsed the Kazarian Empire and the survivors scattered across Europe changing their ID?
Do you know that only a portion of the Russian speaking people of Ukraine want to continue being a part of Russia and it is those Russia is protecting?
Do you know Russia never invaded, they always had a presence in Ukraine?
Do you know the Russian speaking people of Ukraine have been at war with the Nazi regime for over 8 years and have been bombed by them?
And do you know that these Ukraine Nazi worked with the German Nazis in WWII killing Ukrainians?
Do you know what NATO said they wouldn't do to Russia after WWII they did anyhow. Any now Russia a Christian orthodox country is surrounded by Nato on their boarders?
Do you know who lost more people to the communist and Nazis than any one else, and that it was in the millions?
Do you or your so called in the know sources know this - yes they do - but it is an avoided conversation.

Russia does not want to reestablish the old Communist Empire. They want to remain as a Sovereign and Christian country? Turn off the TV News.
Do you know for how many centuries Ukraine has bee... (show quote)


The Ukraine was a free and democratic country when it was invaded by an autocrat who had previously:
1. Declared his intention to restore the old Soviet Union .
2. Brutally suppressed the attempt of Chechnya to establish their own country, because that would have separated them from his vision.
3. Set up autocratic governments in former Soviet countries such as Belarus and Kazakhstan.
4. Took over two provinces from the country of Georgia.
5. Took the Crimea.

And that's just what I can recall at present. Why do some people believe Putin when he says he's protecting Russia from NATO but not when he said the dissolution of the Soviet Union was the greatest political disaster of the century? His past actions are consistent with the latter. Don't actions still speak louder than words?

Please don't tell me Putin is protecting the Russian speaking population of Donbas. His bombardment of civilians pretty clearly disputes this.

Russia may be a Christian country. I had thought Christianity would oppose deliberate bombing of hospitals and refugee centers.

I'm not going to argue with you about the history of the region. Most of what you say is consistent with my understanding. But history doesn't justify Putin's invasion. Unless you're prepared similarly to defend a hypothetical invasion of Cuba or the Philippines by Spain, or the southwestern U.S. by Mexico, or Arizona by the Apaches.

What we should learn from history is that autocrats are seldom satisfied by their current boundaries. Attempts to placate are regarded as signs of weakness.

I'm sure you would do all in your power to defend your country. You should expect Ukrainians to do the same.

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