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Jun 19, 2014 13:57:03   #
RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC
 
Loki wrote:
There is not much doubt that Bergdahl was AWOL. In combat. Whether he accompanied the al Qaida terrorists willingly or not. I am witholding judgement on that one. After all, I thought OJ was guilty.


I agree: there's no doubt that Bergdahl went AWOL. However, a valid question as to whether Bergdahl should be charged with AWOL or desertion was his mental instability at the time. The Army knew that Bergdahl had been administratively discharged from the Coast Guard for psychological reasons 2 years before the Army allowed him to enlist. Psychologically unstable people aren't supposed to be allowed to enlist, let alone be ordered into combat. It's pretty clear from Bergdahl's journal from before he went AWOL and in the few letters he wrote afterward that he's a space cadet. Comments from his squad mates since his release suggest that they were aware of it, too. Did his superiors not have a responsibility to ensure only that psychologically fit soldiers were ordered into combat? If Bergdahl is charged, I think these kinds of issues that will play a large part in the outcome.

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Jun 19, 2014 14:22:39   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
RetNavyCWO wrote:
I agree: there's no doubt that Bergdahl went AWOL. However, a valid question as to whether Bergdahl should be charged with AWOL or desertion was his mental instability at the time. The Army knew that Bergdahl had been administratively discharged from the Coast Guard for psychological reasons 2 years before the Army allowed him to enlist. Psychologically unstable people aren't supposed to be allowed to enlist, let alone be ordered into combat. It's pretty clear from Bergdahl's journal from before he went AWOL and in the few letters he wrote afterward that he's a space cadet. Comments from his squad mates since his release suggest that they were aware of it, too. Did his superiors not have a responsibility to ensure only that psychologically fit soldiers were ordered into combat? If Bergdahl is charged, I think these kinds of issues that will play a large part in the outcome.
I agree: there's no doubt that Bergdahl went AWOL... (show quote)


The Green Weenie. Some things never change. BOHICA. Try to relax. I was unaware of his Coast Guard history. How in the hell did he get in?

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Jun 19, 2014 16:11:14   #
Snoopy
 
Patty wrote:
What more can Barack Obama do to destroy America before he leaves office? Well, let's see. Let's make a list, OK?



More than double our national debt - Check
Push "Green Energy Agenda" by giving loans to political contributors for start-up "Green Energy" companies that have all went bankrupt (*see national debt) - Check
Emasculate the United States Military - Check
Try to force gun confiscation upon America under the guise of "Gun Safety" - Still working on that
Persecute Christianity and raise Islam in America - Check
Allow our borders to be overrun by illegal aliens - Check
Harass Conservatives using the IRS and the FBI - Check
Use the Department of Justice to run blocker for numerous crimes committed against the American people - Check
Ruin the American healthcare system and cause a tremendous rise in cost's across the board - Check

Do I need to go on ladies and gentlemen?

Read more at http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/06/can-barack-obama-destroy-america-leaves-office/#WtVZFQoELuQk0y3P.99
What more can Barack Obama do to destroy America b... (show quote)



Patty

I do not think you missed much!

Give him time and the job will be completed.

Snoopy

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Jun 19, 2014 16:14:45   #
Patty
 
I don't think he has time. I had to laugh during Obombya's Iraq speech today gold rose $43.00 an oz.
That's a big "We don't believe a word you say you incompetent shill" from the investment sector. I feel there is something big headed our way soon.
Snoopy wrote:
Patty

I do not think you missed much!

Give him time and the job will be completed.

Snoopy

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Jun 19, 2014 16:28:06   #
RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC
 
Loki wrote:
The Green Weenie. Some things never change. BOHICA. Try to relax. I was unaware of his Coast Guard history. How in the hell did he get in?


Dunno! Army must've been hard up for some bullet-stoppers. He was in the Coast Guard for less than 2 months according to what I read below and elsewhere.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/11/bowe-bergdahl-coast-guard/10322963/

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Jun 19, 2014 16:32:16   #
RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC
 
Patty wrote:
I don't think he has time. I had to laugh during Obombya's Iraq speech today gold rose $43.00 an oz.
That's a big "We don't believe a word you say you incompetent shill" from the investment sector. I feel there is something big headed our way soon.

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Jun 19, 2014 16:39:41   #
Hartbreaker
 
Inyourface wrote:
I see the Prez got the "Benghazi planner". You see when President Obama says he is going to get that ass ,you are as good as got.

Unlike fake assed folk like Cheney, Rummy and the Dummy he doesn't sell wolf tickets . He is the wolf.

I know this is killing you Tea Party losers.


It took two years to find a guy who made a public announcement of who he was and where he was. It took 4 months for the attack on Osama Bin Laden after they found him. President Obama only goes after these people when he needs the political capital. Not killing anyone except people who actually think this is going to make any difference.

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Jun 19, 2014 16:50:15   #
RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC
 
Hartbreaker wrote:
It took two years to find a guy who made a public announcement of who he was and where he was. It took 4 months for the attack on Osama Bin Laden after they found him. President Obama only goes after these people when he needs the political capital. Not killing anyone except people who actually think this is going to make any difference.


It's one thing to know where a guy is; it's another to have enough evidence to prosecute him. Plus, since they had been watching him, they might very well have been able to figure out who some of his accomplices were. Maybe we'll see if there are more arrests.

Regarding it taking 4 months to get bin Laden: it took much longer than that, and even then, when the raid was launched on May 2, 2011, they (intelligence services) were only about 50% sure that bin Laden was in that compound. Without knowing who the target was, the SEALS had been rehearsing the raid on a mock compound built to the specs of the real compound for months, beginning as early as September of 2010, if I recall correctly.

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Jun 19, 2014 21:56:53   #
Ricktloml
 
Kirk wrote:
Oh are you talking about the guy who made that video? The one that Obama said was responsible for the spontaneous attack? The one they arrested right after the attack? Yes that Barak Obama really went after him didn't he?


I will have to agree that Obama does in fact go after people, that is anyone who publicly causes him trouble, he abuses the power of his office to intimidate anyone who could possibly get it the way of his fundamental transformation of this nation. Obama behaves exactly like the tin horn dictator he would love to be

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Jun 19, 2014 22:29:22   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
Loki wrote:
It took two years to find someone who wasn't hiding. Be still my beating heart. By the way, Obama didn't find shit. That's like saying "Obama got Osama." Really? In which of the assault choppers was the Comrade-in-Chief riding?

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Yep. I'd bet you'd say Obama's successes rank right up there with, "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!" How many patrols did "W" go out on? He didn't even land his plane on the carrier; and he was trained to do so; or, so he said. His flight training was to have occurred at the same time he went "missing" from his assigned duty post. (And, I'll bet you thought Bergdahl was the only type of guy that could be so derelict in his duty, huh?)

You, and the rest of you reich-wingers, are so in love with "W" and his endless list of SNAFU's, I'm surprised you haven't made him out to have personally defused roadside IED's. At least Obama actually got bin Laden and the leader of the Benghazi killers. Downplay Obama's accomplishments all you want, Bush went 7 years and didn't catch anything but a few colds and the credit for the deaths of several thousand US soldiers, sailors and Marines.

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Jun 19, 2014 22:50:26   #
ginger
 
Kirk wrote:
Isn't this crazy? Doesn't it just show the incompetence of our leaders to go on record saying it was a spontaneous attack triggered by a video? What is even crazier is that his followers in this case inyourface who criticizes the investigation into Bengazi is now hailing the President for capturing the real planner of the Bengazi attack. Another point is, if this president is so good at getting the bad guys, where was he when they needed him prior to the attack? Our Ambassador was tortured and dragged through the city! American soldiers who were outnumbered because our president didn't respond to the need were killed. Americans and families of the murdered want answers and our president and his followers are stonewalling and actually mocking the attempt to investigate the matter. But now the president is a hero. Don't mess with him. He is one bad ass. How ignorant can you get?
Isn't this crazy? Doesn't it just show the incompe... (show quote)

Chris Stevens died from smoke inhailation while locked in the safe room. And he wasn't dragged through the streets either. Some of the locals got him out and ran with him to the hospital trying to save his life, not knowing it was too late.

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Jun 19, 2014 23:07:22   #
ginger
 
Loki wrote:
I take it you are an enthusiastic supporter of the God-King's particular variety of mismanagement? Did it ever occur to you that had your Messiah, and Hillary the Minion done their jobs in the first place, there would have been no need to spend 2 years capturing someone who was making no particular effort to make himself scarce.
I don't suppose you have been keeping up with the other news from that part of the world. It seems that ISIS is 35 miles from Baghdad. This terrorist army, which has murdered over a thousand people in the past few days, is led by a terrorist whom we had in custody until 2009. He was released on orders from your God-King.
In spite of the flap over the capture of one of the Benghazi terrorists, (By the way, did Obama "get" him the same way he "got" bin Laden? I'm still trying to figure out which one of the SEALs he was ). Obama didn't "get" anyone. He ordered someone else to do it, and then took all the credit.
Didja see the latest NBC poll? 54% of the people don't agree with your mindless worship of THE STATE. They think Obama is incapable of leading the country effectively. When you consider that one of Obama's most vociferous supporters cannot doctor up a poll to show their golden boy in a favorable light, something is wrong, wouldn't you say?
Oh, yes, your clarion call for Democrats and Independents to get out and vote? Be careful what you wish for. Obama's approval among Independents is not exactly confidence inspiring. They apparently have a slightly higher opinion of him than Republicans, but not by very much.
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Wrong- GW Bush let that guy go. Not our President.

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Jun 19, 2014 23:12:44   #
ginger
 
the waker wrote:
What are you smoking? Its been 2 yrs and they have one guy. How many guys do you think it takes to destroy an embassy? 1 really. He also said he was going to get to the bottom of the IRS scandel, but all they have done is stone walled and lied to the american people. Then for not even a "smiggin" as he said of wrong doing, now we find out that all of Lerners email disappeared. All of them, really. And yes it is a huge deal!

Mean while the whole middle east is falling apart, but things are under control, huh. Yeah bud I would look for a different news station, cause when you see what's comming next, the kool-aid isn't going to taste very sweet. So from this independents POV, they better get on the ball.
What are you smoking? Its been 2 yrs and they have... (show quote)

I guess your right wing news didn't tell you that four men were arrested within twenty four hours and another twenty five were being investigated.

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Jun 20, 2014 00:06:52   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
alabuck wrote:
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Yep. I'd bet you'd say Obama's successes rank right up there with, "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!" How many patrols did "W" go out on? He didn't even land his plane on the carrier; and he was trained to do so; or, so he said. His flight training was to have occurred at the same time he went "missing" from his assigned duty post. (And, I'll bet you thought Bergdahl was the only type of guy that could be so derelict in his duty, huh?)

You, and the rest of you reich-wingers, are so in love with "W" and his endless list of SNAFU's, I'm surprised you haven't made him out to have personally defused roadside IED's. At least Obama actually got bin Laden and the leader of the Benghazi killers. Downplay Obama's accomplishments all you want, Bush went 7 years and didn't catch anything but a few colds and the credit for the deaths of several thousand US soldiers, sailors and Marines.
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Where did you get the idea I was a fan of Bush? You know all sorts of things that just ain't so. Who is downplaying Obama's accomplishments? Everyone knows that almost twice as many troops have died in Afghanistan since Obama became president. He traded 5 major terrorist players for one AWOL. I wonder if they will follow in the footsteps of the ISIS leader, whom we also had in custody until 2009, when he was released by Obama's order. I guess he promised to be good, also.
Let us not forget that your God-King also gifted us with 36,000 wetback criminals turned loose this year alone, "pending their deportation." Wanna get in on the pool of how many show up willingly to be deported? (I mean, not counting the ones who are already back in jail for committing yet more crimes on American soil ).

Speaking of criminals, not a single ATF Agent has been prosecuted for "Fast and Furious," in spite of 2 American LEOs and more than 200 Mexicans being killed by the weapons they "misplaced." By the way, 41 of them have been found, confiscated from cartel thugs after being arrested committing crimes on American soil with weapons supplied by Eric Holder's boys, who apparently are not responsible for anything except committing more crimes than they prosecute.
What do you mean, "downplaying Obama's accomplishments?" I just gave him full credit.

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Jun 20, 2014 00:33:34   #
angery american Loc: Georgia
 
jchuckjohns wrote:
I love it. When the Prez sez he's going to do the deed he gets it done. All of those tea billy dipshit mouth breathing knuckle dragging misogynistic racist homophobes must be about set to have a stroke.
The latest conspiracy about how this was timed to match up with Hilary Clintons book tour has me laughing my ass off. These assbags can't win with their ideas so they try to crush the opposition with bullshit.
I sincerely hope all of us democrats and independents get off our asses and vote this time around. we need to get the tea stains out of our political system.
I love it. When the Prez sez he's going to do the ... (show quote)


What a dipshit......you sound like BoJesters brother....

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