Yes, We've all heard the story of massive election fraud in those six states, or "six pathways to victory" as the Trump campaign called them. We also know how unlikely that story is and we also know that people like you believe it anyway because of your political loyalty. This is precisely the point of my OP. You think you are describing massive election fraud but what you are actually doing is giving us a fine example of how dolchstosslegende actually works. As unbelievable as this story is you believe it nevertheless.

So what makes the story so unbelievable?

Well, the lack of evidence for one... I watched that whole presentation by Count Guliani. All he had was a handful of affidavits which he said he can't share and the rest was all speculation. That was possibly the weakest legal argument in history. Trump's team could not even find a single judge in all the land, not even among those conservative judges he appointed, that would even consider Trump's prosecution BECAUSE of a complete lack of evidence.

BTW, there are isolated incidents of voter fraud in EVERY election. I'm sure Clinton could have just as easily secured sworn affidavits on pro-Trump voter fraud in 2016. But she apparently wasn't so uptight about losing the EC vote that she was willing to disrupt the Republic for the sake of overturning the election. Trump lost by 5 million votes. For voter fraud to be significant, there would have to be 5 million sworn affidavits. You have 500. You're only short by 4,999,500.

This brings me to the second reason why the story is unbelievable. The history of lies. You just said "there are hundreds of not yet thousands of sworn affidavits on massive irregularities." But the fact is, not one sworn affidavit has been shown to describe "massive irregularities". The few that I watched Guliani present simply stated that Trump's requested observers were not close enough to read the ballots as they passed through the regular process of being counted, which already involves a cross-check of more than one person. This is just one example... Trump and his supporters have developed a history of unsubstantiated claims that compromise the believability factor of anything they say.

A third reason is the obvious desperation. When Trump started calling legislators, one state at a time, to the White House to discuss overturning the EC votes, I started to realize just how desperate he is. If a president is desperate enough to overtly propose corruption in the EC, we can certainly consider his desperation a motive for spawning ridiculous claims of massive voter fraud.

Bottom line... Get real evidence! Until that happens, dolchstosslegende it is.

One more thing... You said - "some of those votes are so radical that even statisticians are saying that the results are impossible."

So... I'm not sure how "radical" a vote can actually be. You have a ballot, you check off your choices. It's basically a multiple choice questionnaire and you are suggesting they can be so radical that statisticians say the answers would be impossible? I dunno, maybe you didn't mean it the way you wrote it...

Guliani made a similar comment in his presentation (right about when his hair dye started dripping down his face). He said that statisticians said it was impossible for Trump to be so far ahead at the end of election day and for Biden to pull so far ahead by the next morning.

The best I can do here is to suggest that maybe what the statisticians actually meant (if in fact Giuliani talked to any statisticians at all) is that it's not *normal*. 2020 was a little different because of the pandemic... (Or excuse me, the Democratic hoax, no wait... the Chinese viral attack on the world... Ugh - sorry, I can't keep up with the ever-shifting lies on the right, WHATEVER you think the pandemic is today...) The fact is, because Democrats were concerned about social distancing, they overwhelmingly opted to vote by mail-in ballots... which are counted AFTER the walk-in votes. That explains how Biden pulled ahead when the mail-in ballots were being counted. So yeah, it's not normal... but obviously it *is* possible.

Your belief that the election was fair is absurd. We have the tech to set up elections so cgeating doesn't occur. When you talk about the progressives doing things for the country, we have had problems with immigration for over 40 years. No the Republicans are no better. Congress has lost sight of the job they were elected to do. We need the convention of states, where we can gain control of the government back to the people. Look at the amount of money spent for the congressional seats. Millions in advertising for a job that pays 174 thousand a year. Not real smart use of money. If the applicants can't control the spending we we as a public must put. A stop to it.

The fact that no judge has gone along simply says more about our non-justice system than it does about Trump or the claims. I am not saying that Trump is right, I AM saying that I cannot put faith in any judge, in our DOJ, in our FBI, or in Congress or any politician, whether he comes out and says he is a communist or not. That no Dem leader admits it is not exactly proof of anything, given all the lies and posturing that continues as we speak, or, more accurately, post.

For example, though I have not seen what is in the new COVID aid package that all of a sudden the Dems are on board with when before their demands were so outrageous as to be unbelievable, simply makes it more reasonable to think that they deemed the economic well being of the country not as important as not giving Trump even the appearance of a win, or that perhaps he did do something about this scourge.

So expect the same from the Republicans as they take their added seats in the House, and if they retain the Senate, again, nothing good or substantive will be done, and in 2022, we may have a totally different look to it all, it the country lasts that long. And so the beat goes on and the country spirals further and further into the abyss.

Right on point straight. Similarly I've said the same thing about finding a true socialist on the left, it doesn't exist in our capitalistic society, you can't get there from where we are. We are a society that's constantly wants the latest, newest and best, we constantly try to have more and better. We were brought up to inspire to improve our own status.
Unfortunately this mostly seems to be materialistically, but there you have it, can't have socialism with that attitude, with that philosophy. True socialism, they way they're thinking of it, it's never gonna happen here, and the only place it has happened is under a suppressive dictatorship and not by the will of the people. Therefore, as long as we secure the standing and integrity of our government, we're safe, and secure and that should always be our first priority, and we just have, by ridding ourselves of Trump and his circle.