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Oct 23, 2020 07:09:32   #
Cuda2020
 
straightUp wrote:
I just watch the documentary "Totally Under Control". This is what happens when a president fires every last expert for disagreeing with his narrative... Filmmakers get access to all those experts and witnesses and together with public records, press releases etc...

I highly recommend watching this documentary...

It just blows my mind how Trump has done so much to screw up the response to the corona virus that's it's hard not to wonder if it was all intentional. For anyone asking exactly how Trump screwed up, this documentary really lays out out.

Here are just a few examples.

John Bolton dismantles the Global Heath Security Team set up by the Obama Administration to handle pandemics because... it was established by the Obama Administration.

Chinese government warns Trump about the outbreak found in Wuhan way back in January. Trump waved that off.

Several cases were found in several states BEFORE Trump decides to limit travel from China... (Not stop travel, but limit travel). American businessmen and tourists were still allowed to travel back to the U.S. bringing infection with them. Obviously, the travel restriction was a political stunt and did nothing to prevent the spread of COVID in the U.S.

CDC develops test kits but they all fail. Germany develops test kits that work and the WHO starts to distribute them to every nation except the U.S. because...

Trump directs the FDC not to approve the WHO test kits. So labs across America, have no way to test while the virus spreads across the country and around the globe.

Meanwhile, South Korea adopts a test, trace and isolate strategy that winds up controlling the spread, limiting the deaths and preventing an economic shutdown. Trump is still telling the American people not to worry.

During his trip to India in February, Nancy Messonnier a director at the CDC, makes a public announcement to warn the American people that the virus should not be taken lightly and that the government does NOT have control over the situation. When Trump returned he fired Messonnier.

On February 26, The Trump Administration gave labs the green light to use the part of the CDC test kit that works and to ignore the part that doesn't. The New York Times follow up with stories on the Lost Month. So basically the entire month of February where Trump refused to let American labs use the only test kits available that worked. It's impossible to know how widely the disease spread in that time, but when labs started to test, it became clear that it spread like fire.

As far as I am concerned Trump's actions constitute a high crime and Trump should be tried for endangering the American people without just cause. But it doesn't stop there!

Also in February, Trump initiated the "CS China COVID Procurement Service" where he cleared an exception in this trade war regulations and ordered the top producers of N95 masks and respirators to sell their entire inventories to China. U.S. hospitals were then left with having to import the masks at ten times the cost.

Next, Trump initiates the Corona Virus Supply Chain Task Force and puts Jared Kushner in charge. It turns out the task force was about 10 kids in their early 20's who volunteered to do the work for free using their own personal laptops and e-mail accounts to search for suppliers. They were all forced to sign non-disclosure agreements so they wouldn't spill any beans.

The main philosophy here is that the government can't do anything, so instead the task force leaned on private sector supply chains. As it turns out, the task force hadn't procured anything.

Then the Trump Administration initiated a new plan called Air Bridge, which is basically a plan to subsidize the efforts of private companies to buy and sell personal protection equipment (PPE) such as N95 masks. Here's how it works.

2. Max Kennedy's team (under Trump) would find the PPE and negotiate the lowest price.
3. Private companies would then pay the bill.
4. Federal Government would pay to fly the PPE to the U.S.
5. Then the private companies would sell directly to whoever they want at whatever price they want.

Since the federal government failed to provide the needed PPE, the states were forced to search the market for what they needed. State governments were actually bidding on EBay for the PPE they desperately needed.

Now it's starting to make sense. Instead of directing American manufacturers to supply American hospitals with the required PPE, the Trump administration found a way to ship the entire supply to China where American distribution companies could buy it, import it back to the U.S. and sell it to the highest bidder.

If that's not enough of a racket, FEMA started to bid on the equipment thereby increasing the price even more.

Gavin Newsome, governor of California made a direct appeal to the Federal Government and Kushner told Newsome that they would give him a shipment ONLY if he would publicly thank Trump, which of course he did in the interest of saving lives. Why would a president put American lives at risk just to get a governor to publicly thank him?

The documentary also covered the deal with Remdesivir, an experimental drug developed by the government under the Obama Administration and for which the government currently owns the patent. Once again, Trump gives it away to the private sector so they can profit. A company called Gilead now charges $3,000 per patient. (only patients desperate enough to try the experimental drug and with $3,000 to spend can get it) the $3,000 dose only costs Gilead $10 to make.

Meanwhile, Koreans are changing their minds about Americans because while they were able to control the pandemic and keep the economy open, Americans were floundering, unable to test for that first critical month, unable to control the spread, largely because Trump was encouraging people to ignore the science and medical teams and eventually states had to start shutting down.

So when it comes down to it. The idea that Trump failed due to incompetency is incorrect. Trump actually succeeded in turning the crisis into a profitable racket for a few corporations and the American people simply became his victims.

This is not an isolated case... I've been pointing out Trump's attacks on the American people since he took office. He was a scammer before 2016 and continues to be a scammer now, using the presidential office to victimize the American people.

The only people that will vote for him now are morons, plain and simple. Hopefully, most Americans are smart enough to vote against the prick and when he is dragged out of the office I will continue to pressure the government to try him for ALL his crimes and yes... if found guilty, I will advocate for his execution... for the sake of the presidency and the American people. Potential tyrants and abusers need to understand America is not to be toyed with. Our nation will not tolerate the abuse and endangerment of the people for money. I'm sure the founders of this great nation would agree with me.
I just watch the documentary "Totally Under C... (show quote)


Little late coming here, but I must admit there are things here I was unaware of, yet knowing what I do I'm not surprised, with that said it is truly unconscionable that the man with the task to take care and protect a country and its people, has done what is stated or at the minimum allowed it to happen. Thanks for the post.

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Oct 23, 2020 07:35:09   #
Cuda2020
 
drlarrygino wrote:
Slo Joe, because of he and his family's corruption, could default the election to Trump even before November 3rd. What's crystal clear is how corrupt the Clinton, Ovommit and Biden crime families are.


I see, so you believe everything written of Biden, Obama and Clinton, but not of Trump with all the people arrested and convicted in his circle, and with books and testimonials given...interesting perspective, obviously you are a dedicated Republican, which is fine, but wouldn't you want to support someone else to reflect the morals, values and ethics the party once stood for, most of my life I was a republican, but I no longer support a party, but rather go issue by issue with the best intention for the American people.

I do believe slander should be punishable.

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Oct 23, 2020 09:17:07   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Skiladi21 wrote:
Good article. The key is to stay informed. Very few people are.


Tell me about it

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Oct 23, 2020 09:54:46   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
I feel sorry for Greta. She's a pawn for the extreme leftists environmentalists. This is child abuse, no less. She's ben carefully taught to hate everyone and anything that she doesn't agree with. While she has some points, this world isn't all bad, an d she can't see it. A child reared with no hope is a tragedy. IMHO


I don't get that impression at all. One of the things I noticed about Europeans (having lived their for a while) is that that their children tend mature quicker than children here do. It's a difference in culture. Children here are coddled for longer. So, I can see that from an American perspective, Greta would appear to be an innocent blameless child. But being a Swede, I think it's more likely that she understands perfectly what's going on.

This isn't to say all kids in Sweden are like this. There is no doubt she is exceptional and we have our exceptional children too, such as David Hogg who turned out to be surprisingly mature and well-spoken, much to the outrage of many Americans who think their 2nd amendment rights are being attacked. The difference I am suggesting here has more to do with the average perception of these "children" due to differences in our cultures. Europeans expect their 16 year old children to be adult. Americans expect them to continue enjoying their childhood "while they still have it".

I have also payed more attention to Greta's message than I think most Americans have and I don't think it's a message of hopelessness at all. Yes, it's an angry message, but if there is no hope there wouldn't be any point in speaking out.

Far from being a poor, abused child, Greta is an energetic go-getter who took up a cause and managed to beat out the much less mature Donald Trump, for the honor of being Time Magazine's Person of the Year.

I just like to remind people here what they sound like when they resort to such dramatic and disdainful rants about the shameless evil of the left. When drlarrygino posted his whiny rant I couldn't help but recall that sour look in Greta's face during her dramatic presentations. LOL

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Oct 23, 2020 10:16:12   #
Cuda2020
 
straightUp wrote:
Good point. This is what I think Constitutionalists and "originalists" don't get. The founders tried to make the Constitution as flexible as possible, but they perhaps underestimated the extent to which future generations would drive partisan politics, which has eventually brought us to the point where the intentional challenge of changing the Constitution has become a near impossibility.

There is something statesmen and legal experts sometimes refer to as the "spirit of the letter" which is a vague reference to the the point of the Constitution, which I think is a form of stating that the Constitution is indeed subordinate to its purpose... to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.

That and the fact there ARE provisions for changing the Constitution also validates the assertion that there is a higher "spirit of the letter" that supersedes the written laws of the Constitution itself.

I'll add one more thing... The Constitution only applies to the government. It's a blueprint for the Republic itself and it's a set of laws that limit what the GOVERNMENT can do. Not what people can do.

The people are government by a different set of laws called the U.S. Code, which itself is written by Congress under the limitations of the Constitution.

This is why anyone in the private sector can override the Bill of Rights within the confines of their private property. Therefore people do NOT have a right to say what they want on facebook and people do NOT have the right to bear arms in a restaurant that prohibits them.

etc...
Good point. This is what I think Constitutionalist... (show quote)


straightup quote,"This is why anyone in the private sector can override the Bill of Rights within the confines of their private property. Therefore people do NOT have a right to say what they want on facebook and people do NOT have the right to bear arms in a restaurant that prohibits them."

Excellent point!

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Oct 23, 2020 10:21:32   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
Hillary Clinton says Biden should not concede the election ...
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/. Enjoy and eat crow. This was toooo easy to find, LOL




followed your link... found much about a lot.. but not a darn mention of Hillary, let alone your wished for quote..

Ohhh, this is so hard for you isn't it.. darn... that right wing fish wrap failed to deliver again..

What do you think is the goal of the Lincoln project?
What do you think is the goal of the Lincoln proje...

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Oct 23, 2020 10:23:11   #
Big Kahuna
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
I see, so you believe everything written of Biden, Obama and Clinton, but not of Trump with all the people arrested and convicted in his circle, and with books and testimonials given...interesting perspective, obviously you are a dedicated Republican, which is fine, but wouldn't you want to support someone else to reflect the morals, values and ethics the party once stood for, most of my life I was a republican, but I no longer support a party, but rather go issue by issue with the best intention for the American people.

I do believe slander should be punishable.
I see, so you believe everything written of Biden,... (show quote)


You seem to forget that every aspect of Trumps life has been put under a microscope and Trump has never been prosecuted. Now as regard to ovommit, the Clintons and Slo joe not one time have they been investigated for all their criminal activity. If they were put through the ringer like Trump was , they would have already been hung!!

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Oct 23, 2020 10:23:34   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
You haven't any rights on Facebook. You're really naive.

drlarrygino doesn't seem to understand that the Constitution is a set of laws that only applies to our government and that includes the Bill of Rights where we find our 1st Amendment that specifically says the CONGRESS cannot interfere with free speech.

Or perhaps he just doesn't realize that facebook is actually a private sector company, NOT congress.

In short, a private-sector company like facebook, Google, MSN and every other social media platform available including OPP is not obligated to the 1st Amendment... at all.

I'm going to stress this point here because there is a certain irony that underscores conservative culture where there is this tremendous reverence for our constitutional rights as being a great protector of our freedom while at the same time there is a very obvious disdain for the only organization that complies with the Constitution, the government.

So, for every service they privatize they are actually removing more of their constitutional protection. Indeed if I had to describe conservative culture in one word, it would be "ironic".

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Oct 23, 2020 10:24:18   #
Big Kahuna
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
I see, so you believe everything written of Biden, Obama and Clinton, but not of Trump with all the people arrested and convicted in his circle, and with books and testimonials given...interesting perspective, obviously you are a dedicated Republican, which is fine, but wouldn't you want to support someone else to reflect the morals, values and ethics the party once stood for, most of my life I was a republican, but I no longer support a party, but rather go issue by issue with the best intention for the American people.

I do believe slander should be punishable.
I see, so you believe everything written of Biden,... (show quote)


Maybe people like you who deny the truth should be prosecuted and/or punished.

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Oct 23, 2020 10:26:29   #
Big Kahuna
 
straightUp wrote:
Tell me about it


I certainly wish you radicalized leftists would be more informed instead of buying the demonrat and their mouthpieces, the corrupt media's, propaganda.

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Oct 23, 2020 10:28:53   #
Big Kahuna
 
straightUp wrote:
I don't get that impression at all. One of the things I noticed about Europeans (having lived their for a while) is that that their children tend mature quicker than children here do. It's a difference in culture. Children here are coddled for longer. So, I can see that from an American perspective, Greta would appear to be an innocent blameless child. But being a Swede, I think it's more likely that she understands perfectly what's going on.

This isn't to say all kids in Sweden are like this. There is no doubt she is exceptional and we have our exceptional children too, such as David Hogg who turned out to be surprisingly mature and well-spoken, much to the outrage of many Americans who think their 2nd amendment rights are being attacked. The difference I am suggesting here has more to do with the average perception of these "children" due to differences in our cultures. Europeans expect their 16 year old children to be adult. Americans expect them to continue enjoying their childhood "while they still have it".

I have also payed more attention to Greta's message than I think most Americans have and I don't think it's a message of hopelessness at all. Yes, it's an angry message, but if there is no hope there wouldn't be any point in speaking out.

Far from being a poor, abused child, Greta is an energetic go-getter who took up a cause and managed to beat out the much less mature Donald Trump, for the honor of being Time Magazine's Person of the Year.

I just like to remind people here what they sound like when they resort to such dramatic and disdainful rants about the shameless evil of the left. When drlarrygino posted his whiny rant I couldn't help but recall that sour look in Greta's face during her dramatic presentations. LOL
I don't get that impression at all. One of the thi... (show quote)


I find European children to be fine followers who spout the leftist party line and can't think independently since they have only heard leftist propaganda. They walk around like adult zombies.

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Oct 23, 2020 10:30:18   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
drlarrygino wrote:
You leftist fools don't seem to understand who is altimately responsible for the Wuhan virus and the deaths it has caused. The 1st clue is to look at the word, "Wuhan". It's in China. Regarding the 200,000 deaths caused by the virus, even the CDC acknowledged that only 6% of those deaths were attributable to the Covid virus singlely. So only 12,000 cases are due entirely to Covid with 6,000 of them due to Andrew Cuomo's mismanagement of the virus in his state. In fact he killed many elderly by sending them to their deaths in the nursing homes that were already infected with Covid. Trump has done a spectacular job in reducing the projected deaths from Covid at 2 million to a mere 12,000. You should be praising Trump and not bad mouthing like you always do. Trump will serve a 2nd term partially due to his leadership during this crisis. Don't let me have to repeat this story again and stop being a liar about the facts about Covid. In fact, you are so outlandish in your story line that you don't even need to be "herd" (heard).
You leftist fools don't seem to understand who is ... (show quote)


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Larry, your gullibility has reached mountains proportions if you believe your words..

Of course you have no link or source so it seems this is only a dream you had last night..

deaths are over 210,000 in just the United States.. that is a fact.. try and find then,, it is very easy.. stop digging through the fish wrap trash for something to post..


https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#cases_casesinlast7days


United States COVID-19 Cases and Deaths by State
Reported to the CDC since January 21, 2020
TOTAL CASES
8,312,667
+63,656 New Cases
CASES IN LAST 7 DAYS
417,901
TOTAL DEATHS
221,438
+1,076 New Deaths

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Oct 23, 2020 10:30:25   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
drlarrygino wrote:
Maybe people like you who deny the truth should be prosecuted and/or punished.


That would be unfortunate for you my confused little friend. From what I've read on this topic so far, Barracuda isn't the one denying the truth, you are.

But let's remember that justice can't be served with biased opinions alone. There would need to be a presentation of evidence and that's one area that you have proven utterly incapable. So if we ever adapt your suggested rule, I would try to find someone smart to defend your silliness, if that's at all possible.

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Oct 23, 2020 10:33:22   #
Big Kahuna
 
straightUp wrote:
drlarrygino doesn't seem to understand that the Constitution is a set of laws that only applies to our government and that includes the Bill of Rights where we find our 1st Amendment that specifically says the CONGRESS cannot interfere with free speech.

Or perhaps he just doesn't realize that facebook is actually a private sector company, NOT congress.

In short, a private-sector company like facebook, Google, MSN and every other social media platform available including OPP is not obligated to the 1st Amendment... at all.

I'm going to stress this point here because there is a certain irony that underscores conservative culture where there is this tremendous reverence for our constitutional rights as being a great protector of our freedom while at the same time there is a very obvious disdain for the only organization that complies with the Constitution, the government.

So, for every service they privatize they are actually removing more of their constitutional protection. Indeed if I had to describe conservative culture in one word, it would be "ironic".
drlarrygino doesn't seem to understand that the Co... (show quote)


I find it ironic that most demonrat politicians have never worked in the private sector and are clueless about small business. Most are career politicians with only big government ideologies. Look at Ovommit and Slo Joe, neither one knows about the private sector since they are crooked career leftist politicians.

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Oct 23, 2020 10:34:50   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
drlarrygino wrote:
Here's a rule. Try listening to and reading credible news sources. CNN and the major news networks lost their credibility years ago and have never retracted all their lies about Russian collusion that they promoted for 4 years!! That should be a clue that the news networks are clueless about the truth just as you are. You might fantasize about Slo Joe winning the election but the reality will be on November 3rd, that Trump wins 4 more years and maybe even another 4 years because of all the demorat obstruction and false stories on Russian collusion that proved to be utterly false. Quit promoting falsehoods on this site . Your falsehoods are getting real old and redundant.
Here's a rule. Try listening to and reading credib... (show quote)


russian interference on behalf to trump has been proven by all intelligence agencies and also found to be a factor by the Senate (republican) investigation.. only the written request in trump hand writting was not recovered and he sits and soils the oval office..

so you think trump is a sure winner. OK, don't bother to vote... that was what millions of Hillary supports did in 2016.. it seems a strong idea..

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