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Oct 12, 2020 13:08:30   #
JimMe
 
permafrost wrote:
all 50 states shut down.. does that indicate that all 50 governors agreed that trump refusing responsibility and doing nothing was not good for our country?

None of the things trump claimed as all time highs were true.. just more orange lies to his gullible cult..



"... Seven states—Arkansas, Iowa, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah, and Wyoming—did not issue orders directing residents to stay at home from nonessential activities in March and April 2020 in response to the coronavirus pandemic..."
"... To date, stay-at-home orders have ended in 41 states..."
"... This article is current as of October 9, 2020..."
- Source is https://ballotpedia.org/States_that_did_not_issue_stay-at-home_orders_in_response_to_the_coronavirus_(COVID-19)_pandemic,_2020

Also:

A chart shows US Unemployment rate was at 3.5% as of February 2020, spiked to 14.7% as of April 2020, and as of September 2020 has declined to 7.9%, with decreases in unemployment in each of the last 5 months...
- Source is https://www.statista.com/statistics/273909/seasonally-adjusted-monthly-unemployment-rate-in-the-us/#:~:text=U.S.%20monthly%20unemployment%20rate&text=Unemployment%20fell%20from%209.6%20percent%20in%202010%20to%203.7%20percent%20in%202019.


This is how I say: "What Pres Trump has claimed is factual..."

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Oct 12, 2020 16:33:14   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
JimMe wrote:
"... Seven states—Arkansas, Iowa, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah, and Wyoming—did not issue orders directing residents to stay at home from nonessential activities in March and April 2020 in response to the coronavirus pandemic..."
"... To date, stay-at-home orders have ended in 41 states..."
"... This article is current as of October 9, 2020..."
- Source is https://ballotpedia.org/States_that_did_not_issue_stay-at-home_orders_in_response_to_the_coronavirus_(COVID-19)_pandemic,_2020

Also:

A chart shows US Unemployment rate was at 3.5% as of February 2020, spiked to 14.7% as of April 2020, and as of September 2020 has declined to 7.9%, with decreases in unemployment in each of the last 5 months...
- Source is https://www.statista.com/statistics/273909/seasonally-adjusted-monthly-unemployment-rate-in-the-us/#:~:text=U.S.%20monthly%20unemployment%20rate&text=Unemployment%20fell%20from%209.6%20percent%20in%202010%20to%203.7%20percent%20in%202019.


This is how I say: "What Pres Trump has claimed is factual..."
"... Seven states—Arkansas, Iowa, Nebraska, N... (show quote)





JIM,,,

Your first link gave me this..

States that did not issue stay-at-home orders in response to the coronavirus
Oops! The page you’re looking for does not exist. Try using the search bar above to find what you’re looking for, or return to the homepage.

Your 2nd link is as you say... but how does this make anything trump has said factual? I see no connection at all.

What is the subject we are debating? covid numbers, or recovery of the economy??



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Oct 12, 2020 23:54:01   #
JimMe
 
permafrost wrote:
JIM,,,

Your first link gave me this..

States that did not issue stay-at-home orders in response to the coronavirus
Oops! The page you’re looking for does not exist. Try using the search bar above to find what you’re looking for, or return to the homepage.

Your 2nd link is as you say... but how does this make anything trump has said factual? I see no connection at all.

What is the subject we are debating? covid numbers, or recovery of the economy??



I see all this as either folk will vote for Pres Trump & GOP Candidates or vote for Sen Biden & DEM Candidates... There's really no debate...

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Oct 13, 2020 05:44:43   #
Tug484
 
Lonewolf wrote:
With good paying union jobs rebuilding our infrastructure our roads bridges and power grid
Biden will make this economy work for the working men and women instead of more tax brakes for billionaires.


He raises the taxes on the rich, they go overseas, and there go the jobs.
Can't you guys figure that out?

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Oct 13, 2020 08:10:50   #
Lonewolf
 
Tug484 wrote:
He raises the taxes on the rich, they go overseas, and there go the jobs.
Can't you guys figure that out?


They already left

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Oct 13, 2020 09:08:42   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Lonewolf wrote:
With good paying union jobs rebuilding our infrastructure our roads bridges and power grid
Biden will make this economy work for the working men and women instead of more tax brakes for billionaires.

Finally got ur head out, you and rummy! Trump has got this! Biden just Biden time till the lites go completely out!

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Oct 13, 2020 10:20:49   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
JimMe wrote:
I see all this as either folk will vote for Pres Trump & GOP Candidates or vote for Sen Biden & DEM Candidates... There's really no debate...


I very much agree with you on that..

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Oct 13, 2020 18:51:14   #
Tug484
 
Lonewolf wrote:
They already left


Under Obama.
Trump brought them back.
Biden will cause them to leave again.

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Oct 13, 2020 19:26:19   #
Lonewolf
 
Tug484 wrote:
Under Obama.
Trump brought them back.
Biden will cause them to leave again.


Trump did not bring them back more trump lies

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/10/trump-workers-jobs-overseas-factories

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Oct 13, 2020 19:39:29   #
roy
 
vernon wrote:
Your as ignorant as anyone on opp.The only thing your going to get from the daemRATS is part time jobs. Now do you have a memory 0f the obama jobs plan. Again part time jobs and telling us the jobs weren't coming back. do you
even know anything about obama biden 8 years.


This country now has more part time Jobs than anytime in history, this country also has more working poor than anytime in history. Yes and jobs were coming back,that's the reason trump inherited a growing economy,whether you want to admit it or not. IF JOE WINS LOOK WHAT HE WILL INHERIT.

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Oct 13, 2020 19:47:34   #
roy
 
archie bunker wrote:
Unions don't do shit, except take workers money. I have a union job, and they do nothing for me. The "company" wipes their ads with the contract every day, and nothing happens.

The idea behind unions was to create a fair wage, and some sort of work/life balance. The wage isn't bad, but I have no balance. Only work.

The NALC "guarantees" that I can't be worked over 12 hours a day, or 60 hours a week. Pfffffttttt.....a 60 hour week would be like a vacation to me!!

On top of that, they take 53 bucks a month from my paycheck, and donate it to politicians instead of helping paying union members.

The only upside to it is that if I choose to be a piece of shit deadbeat at work, they'll have to work hard to fire me. And, trust me, there are a LOT of deadbeats who should be fired, but can't because of the f**king union.
I see it every day.
Unions don't do shit, except take workers money. I... (show quote)


Then what wrong withyourunion,seems alot of us baby boomers had good unions,good pensions,holidays,paid healthcare,,,look likes your one of them little bit he's that want stand up and fight for anything.A union is as good as the people that's in it,but without the unions, you see exactly what's happening to people I this country,they are being raped by big business.

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Oct 13, 2020 20:01:55   #
Tug484
 
Lonewolf wrote:


Wrong.

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Oct 14, 2020 13:09:51   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Tug484 wrote:
Under Obama.
Trump brought them back.
Biden will cause them to leave again.



The main drive to offshore was republican.. trump did not bring any significant MFG/business back.. still gone trade balance is worse then when he took office.. these are results which exclude the covid, which are only trumps neglected responsibility, not his doing.. blame him for what he did not do, not for natures revenge.



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Oct 14, 2020 13:27:53   #
Lonewolf
 
permafrost wrote:
The main drive to offshore was republican.. trump did not bring any significant MFG/business back.. still gone trade balance is worse then when he took office.. these are results which exclude the covid, which are only trumps neglected responsibility, not his doing.. blame him for what he did not do, not for natures revenge.



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Oct 14, 2020 13:57:21   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Lonewolf wrote:


😨😱😀😁😂

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