straightUp Loc: California

LOL - that's what I thought. You're just blabbering. BTW, if conservatives are so smart how did they allow themselves to be overrun by a "liberal" infestation?

debeda

Seth

No, I just don't BS like you do. Your entire explanation of majority vs electoral college voting was nothing but a quagmire of doubletalk. To tell the truth, I got lost right away just trying to keep up with the train of illogic, and that's unusual for me; I have a goodly amount of investigative work in my background and have had to wade through a lot of convoluted narrative from some pretty slick individuals, but what you serve up is a brand of bullshit all its own.

debeda

Yeah.......And the fact that they can't quite comprehend how a republic is constituted. I get so bored with it all.....🌞🌞🌞

debeda

That sums it up

Seth

It's those pesky bumper stickers, they only have enough room for the slogans, not even enough to have a "This space for doodling" section let alone anything of an explanatory nature.

This is okay with lefties, however, because knowing what they're talking about would only confuse things.

straightUp Loc: California

Oh, look who's the know-it-all now... Big city reasoning? LOL

So tell me Seth, how did you "experience" big city reasoning?

Honestly, if you had the slightest clue about the divisions, the conflicts and the differences of opinion in every major city you wouldn't be describing city dwellers as some kind of monolithic hive mind.

You're hilarious.


What, like Jane Goodall and her apes? Oooh!

Seriously though, I wouldn't knock anyone for writing about the thoughts of others (as long as it really is the thoughts of others). Can you link me to something she wrote? I tried to google but all I get is facebook pages, twitter accounts, obituaries and a profile on a general manager at AppleBee's. I guess she's not very famous but I'd like to see what she is saying.

I get a pretty good view of rural America when I leave the city (Philadelphia) twice a week to travel an hour to South Jersey for band practice with people who call themselves Pineys because they live in the pine barrens. Unlike North Jersey, which is pretty much an extension of NYC, South Jersey is rural and mostly agricultural. Even our music is rural (Irish Traditional and Bluegrass) and my band mates are ALL Trump supporters and Confederate sympathizers and trust me... they let me know what they are thinking. I usually just wait for them to finish their rants then say "are you ready to play music now?"

Sometimes I engage but I find more times than not they wind up shouting over me, but over time they have come to realize that I'm not so different. We share the same basic principles and we have a lot of overlap in the libertarian space but when it gets beyond that we just shake it off and start playing music. It's more fun anyway.

straightUp Loc: California

Is that because you rarely venture into complicated systems? It really isn't that difficult to follow Seth and it's not BS either. I suspect it's because the explanation is coming from a liberal so you are predisposed to reject it and calling it a quagmire of doubletalk is your way of doing that.


Call what you like, but the reason why it stands on its own is because I'm not parroting the same old arguments. I'm actually disagreeing with the conservatives AND liberals on this. Liberals want to get rid of the EC because they think it's unfair. I'm pointing out that there is nothing wrong with the EC itself. The problem is elsewhere.

Did you even get to that part of my explanation or were you already tuned out?

America 1 Loc: South Miami

Surprising you don't take everything they have to say and disputed them line be line.

Seth

In NY, after I left the service, I worked in a retail corporate structure and years later worked at middle management level on Wall Street. Still later, I started a security business in San Francisco that became quite lucrative very quickly.

During all of those periods I led an active social life, including the culture end of things. Society friends/acquaintances, symphony, theatre; lots of rock concerts sprinkled in, as well😁. Same again in San Francisco.

A lot of my friends and associates were urbanites and in each city, especially NYC and SF, the locals spoke, thought and acted like their city was the center of the universe, and everyplace else was "the sticks."

On the other hand, time I've spent in rural Illinois, northern Nevada and a few other places in the "flyover zone" introduced me to people who were a lot less narcissistic and more genuinely curious about how people who lived different types of lives thought about things.

Your ilk tends to believe you are some sort of intellectual superiors who know better than anyone else how they should live and, when elected to public office, tend to "rule by theory" rather than actual reality.

You create more misery than good and are clueless about it because you never bother to spend any time around the victims of your "good deeds," and then you give yourselves public cudos and use the screwing of those victims as a resume item, while they suffer.

Zito talks to people and gets their honest input. Your ilk ignores any input that doesn't stress what a great job you're doing.

Essentially, your ilk are nothing more than self important, pompous blowhards who think you're a lot more clever than you actually are. The very fact that you are so easy for the far left to run a scam on that has been run so many times before with tragic results for millions of people indicates that you're not as big in the brains department as you think you are.

Not even close.

straightUp Loc: California

It's normal to get bored with things you don't understand.

I would love it if you could explain how a republic is constituted because I always wanted to know what a republic is made out of.

Seriously though, if this is your fancy way of saying how a constitution is applied to a republic. I'm not sure what you think the mystery is. They had a convention, the states sent delegates and they painstakingly bickered and haggled until they came up with an agreement on how the republic is to be structured. As an after thought, they added a Bill of Rights like what England had to limit the power of the republic over the acknowledged rights of the people.

straightUp Loc: California

LOL - Only because I have better things to do with the time I spend with them. Why bicker about politics when you can play music instead?

America 1 Loc: South Miami

Cop out.

debeda

Lolololhahahaha you're right about that🤣🤣🤣

debeda