If this is an example of trumps law and order, he should shut his yap (Page 2): I wish you would take your own advice sometimes.

Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX

factnotfiction wrote:

Are cops getting out of control? With all of the recent shootings, it would seem like it.

Now let's see all of the apologists for bad cops justify the shooting of an autistic white boy who was unarmed.

Not good

https://nypost.com/2020/09/08/police-shoot-autistic-teen-after-his-mom-called-911-for-help/

I wish you would take your own advice sometimes.

Dan the man

Seth wrote:

They are.

The meme is spot-on: while the Leftist hypocrites prattle on about white privilege and racism, it's their own rich who act out their elitism and it's their own people who suppress minorities' access to the pursuit of happiness.

They ought to take a breather from their incessant attacks on Trump supporters and spend some time looking in mirrors.

You nailed it! I'm beginning to believe they have a diease
of the mental sort.

Seth

Dan the man wrote:

You nailed it! I'm beginning to believe they have a diease
of the mental sort.

Like maybe their haughty politicians and their own elitist rich want to be like feudal royalty and their rank & file supporters want themselves and the rest of us to be "subjects."

Until fairly recently, I was under the impression that we'd bid farewell to that kind of thing nearly two and a half centuries ago.

The nostalgia level must be in bionic overdrive over there on the port side.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

factnotfiction wrote:

Are cops getting out of control? With all of the recent shootings, it would seem like it.

Now let's see all of the apologists for bad cops justify the shooting of an autistic white boy who was unarmed.

Not good

https://nypost.com/2020/09/08/police-shoot-autistic-teen-after-his-mom-called-911-for-help/

As is your norm, you assume too much. Do you always pass judgment without having the facts? What do the body cams show?? Have you seen them before anyone else?

Did the young man have something in his hand that could be used to attack the police?

So ready to pass judgement against the police dept with only this article!! Are you over reacting?? Were those police officers over reacting like you too?? Perhaps so, not that it makes this right if that is what happened???

Cherokee38 Loc: Atlanta

Seth wrote:

While this is not a good thing, I doubt that every police officer in America got on a conference call with the president and decided to shoot this teenager.

I suppose for a left wing fanatic such as yourself it's still justification for blaming President Trump and perhaps burning out a few more mom and pop businesses, looting them first, of course and then maybe caving in a couple of heads with bricks.

Unfortunately the mother could not control her son. She should ave placed him in institution where they can control him.

The police did not know if he had a weapon but acted as he might. What do you expect? Police do not shoot without reason. Obey their commands and have respect.
You will be fine. Resist arrest and the police will react . Their desire is to go home alive after shift. Get head out of a$$ and support police.
.

Seth

Cherokee38 wrote:

Unfortunately the mother could not control her son. She should ave placed him in institution where they can control him.

The police did not know if he had a weapon but acted as he might. What do you expect? Police do not shoot without reason. Obey their commands and have respect.
You will be fine. Resist arrest and the police will react . Their desire is to go home alive after shift. Get head out of a$$ and support police.
.

I am a total police supporter -- have worked with cops, have cop friends (socializing friends) in 4 cities and have shot at police pistol ranges on several occasions.

Agree with you completely.

promilitary

factnotfiction wrote:

Are cops getting out of control? With all of the recent shootings, it would seem like it.

Now let's see all of the apologists for bad cops justify the shooting of an autistic white boy who was unarmed.

Not good

https://nypost.com/2020/09/08/police-shoot-autistic-teen-after-his-mom-called-911-for-help/

The burning and looting is not Trump's law and order......it's ALL happening in Democrat run cities.

Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX

promilitary wrote:

The burning and looting is not Trump's law and order......it's ALL happening in Democrat run cities.

Defunding the police is because their pension funds have been stolen. It's happening or has happened in Spain already.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Peewee wrote:

Defunding the police is because their pension funds have been stolen. It's happening or has happened in Spain already.

They tried to do it in Chicago regarding their pension plans but the court said, nope, you pay what that cop signed up in benefits.. Change it for the new cops coming in but pay what you owe these already eligible! Rahm and his crooked BS finally hit a wall he wasn’t going to plow through!!!
I sure did love being involved in it too!!!! Talk about justice for all!!! Whooop there it was!!!

Pushed by Mayor Rahm Emanuel and approved by the Illinois General Assembly, drastic cuts to the pension benefits earned by active and retired city of Chicago employees were signed into law by Governor Pat Quinn on June 9, 2014.

The We Are One-Chicago union coalition that includes AFSCME, the Chicago Teachers Union, the Fire Fighters Association, the Fraternal Order of Police, the Illinois Nurses Association and the Police Benevolent & Protective Association immediately announced plans to sue to have the law struck down on the grounds that it violates the state constitution’s requirement that pension benefits cannot be “diminished or impaired.” Click here to read a copy of the complaint: http://www.scribd.com/doc/250301530/Lawsuit-Chicago-pension-cuts-are-unconstitutional

On July 24, 2015 the Cook County Circuit Court ruled in our favor (the case now being called Jones v. MEABF). The court found that steep cuts to the pension benefits of active and retired participants in the city of Chicago Municipal Employees Annuity and Benefit Fund (MEABF) violate the state Constitution, which prohibits any measure that would diminish pension benefits already promised to active and retired public employees.

The Illinois Supreme Court heard the City of Chicago pension case on November 17, 2015.

At the high court hearing, a city lawyer claimed that pension cuts are necessary to keep the funds from running out of money. He also argued that because the legislation also requires increased employer contributions, it provides workers and retirees with a "net benefit."

But union attorney John Shapiro “poked giant holes in the city’s argument:"

“Setting aside money to pay what is already a constitutional guarantee is not a benefit, new or net. Funding provisions cannot justify pension benefit reductions in Illinois,” Shapiro told the Court. “The funding mechanism for employer contributions simply has not matched known fund obligations. Now that the result of that disconnect is intolerable, they just don’t want to pay for the benefits. But, that’s precisely what the pension protection clause precludes.”

On March 24 the Illinois Supreme Court struck down the City of Chicago pension law once and for all. While this attempt to attack pensions has been thwarted, Retirees should stay vigilent for furhter attacks in the future.

https://m.afscme31.org/retirees/get-answers/qa-pensions-for-city-of-chicago-retirees

Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX

lindajoy wrote:

They tried to do it in Chicago regarding their pension plans but the court said, nope, you pay what that cop signed up in benefits.. Change it for the new cops coming in but pay what you owe these already eligible! Rahm and his crooked BS finally hit a wall he wasn’t going to plow through!!!
I sure did love being involved in it too!!!! Talk about justice for all!!! Whooop there it was!!!

Pushed by Mayor Rahm Emanuel and approved by the Illinois General Assembly, drastic cuts to the pension benefits earned by active and retired city of Chicago employees were signed into law by Governor Pat Quinn on June 9, 2014.

The We Are One-Chicago union coalition that includes AFSCME, the Chicago Teachers Union, the Fire Fighters Association, the Fraternal Order of Police, the Illinois Nurses Association and the Police Benevolent & Protective Association immediately announced plans to sue to have the law struck down on the grounds that it violates the state constitution’s requirement that pension benefits cannot be “diminished or impaired.” Click here to read a copy of the complaint: http://www.scribd.com/doc/250301530/Lawsuit-Chicago-pension-cuts-are-unconstitutional

On July 24, 2015 the Cook County Circuit Court ruled in our favor (the case now being called Jones v. MEABF). The court found that steep cuts to the pension benefits of active and retired participants in the city of Chicago Municipal Employees Annuity and Benefit Fund (MEABF) violate the state Constitution, which prohibits any measure that would diminish pension benefits already promised to active and retired public employees.

The Illinois Supreme Court heard the City of Chicago pension case on November 17, 2015.

At the high court hearing, a city lawyer claimed that pension cuts are necessary to keep the funds from running out of money. He also argued that because the legislation also requires increased employer contributions, it provides workers and retirees with a "net benefit."

But union attorney John Shapiro “poked giant holes in the city’s argument:"

“Setting aside money to pay what is already a constitutional guarantee is not a benefit, new or net. Funding provisions cannot justify pension benefit reductions in Illinois,” Shapiro told the Court. “The funding mechanism for employer contributions simply has not matched known fund obligations. Now that the result of that disconnect is intolerable, they just don’t want to pay for the benefits. But, that’s precisely what the pension protection clause precludes.”

On March 24 the Illinois Supreme Court struck down the City of Chicago pension law once and for all. While this attempt to attack pensions has been thwarted, Retirees should stay vigilent for furhter attacks in the future.

https://m.afscme31.org/retirees/get-answers/qa-pensions-for-city-of-chicago-retirees

They tried to do it in Chicago regarding their pen... (show quote)

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lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Peewee wrote:

Bless you, for that! I knew nothing about that. Be... (show quote)

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