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May 5, 2014 14:14:26   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Glaucon wrote:
oldgringo

You might want to find my comments your found to be so offensive and post them on this site or STFU.


If you are so interested in your previous vile postings, seek them out yourself. Your STFU is just an example of your vileness. You must have graduated Magna cum Laude from the University of the Gutter.

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May 5, 2014 14:47:07   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Ricko wrote:
Glaucon-the democrats cannot handle the truth so they purposely did not release all of the emails pertaining to Benghazi. Had they done so when requested this issue would have been already resolved. Fact: 4 men murdered unnecessarily. Fact: White House conjured up a story about a video . Fact: White House amended the CIA talking points so as to enhance Obama's re-election. Fact: Obama not in the Situation Room during the attack which lasted 8 hours. Fact: Obama in the White House in bed resting up for an all important fund raiser. Fact: Help could have reached those men within 4 hours but the Criminal-in-Charge was not there to give the order. Fact: America does not usually turn its back on her people in a life and death situation. Fact: A real president would have ordered the military to act even if they may have been too late to save the men. Fact: Nixon resigned for a lesser offense-nobody died. Fact: Clinton was impeached for lying about sex. Fact: Both Obama and Hillary are guilty as sin and should be prosecuted. Fact: democrats do not want to participate in the investigation-they are afraid of the truth finally coming out. Glaucon-not only are you uninformed you have a vile mouth and when you find yourself losing the argument you attack the messenger. You are a pitifully small man. Good Luck America !!!
Glaucon-the democrats cannot handle the truth so t... (show quote)






:thumbup: it hit all the right (facts). Truths!!

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May 5, 2014 14:50:15   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
fom wrote:
During George W Bushes' time in office there were several embassy and consulate attacks in Yemen, Turkey, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia. 60 were killed and not one single outraged Republican.Check it out I challenge you. What happened in Bengazi was not funny but to use Bengazi as ammunition is low and without dignity. Find a real scandal.


Bush, wasn't covering them up!! Are you kidding, you do see the difference?

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May 5, 2014 16:27:53   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Glaucon wrote:
You are riding a very dead pony and we could all use the incredible amount of time and money for better purposes. However, it is your horse and you can ride it as far as it will go.


You deflectors are all the same. You never want to discuss the subject at hand but always want to talk about some dead horse.

I will continue to ride my horse and bet you will continue to ride yours. Is there a chance that you will stop riding yours?

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May 5, 2014 16:45:42   #
Glaucon
 
The dead horse reference is not a real, actual dead horse. It is what we call a metaphor. I was only trying to point out, again, that the Benghazi nonsense is a political con without substance that is costing us precious time and money. The investigations, studies, and hearings have all come up empty and extremists have to continue to beat the horse (metaphor) or get a new horse. I think the Republicans would be way ahead if the would go back to the birth certificate nonsense. It think it still has legs (another metaphor).

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May 5, 2014 16:46:55   #
Glaucon
 
oldroy wrote:
You deflectors are all the same. You never want to discuss the subject at hand but always want to talk about some dead horse.

I will continue to ride my horse and bet you will continue to ride yours. Is there a chance that you will stop riding yours?


Your deflection is noted.

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May 5, 2014 16:52:17   #
Glaucon
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Bush, wasn't covering them up!! Are you kidding, you do see the difference?


There are certainly large differences: these were different embassies in different places and they didn't have such a catchy name as Benghazi. But most of all, they happened during the rule of the Gipper. Are YOU kidding?

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May 5, 2014 17:25:45   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Thank you for the heads up. wishing for rain down your way
Old_Gringo wrote:
Trust me Tom, what Sutton wrote was very mild in comparison to what Glaucon has written in the past. I don't have to, nor am I, an advocate for Sutton. He can handle his own affairs. All I am saying is if you wish to admonish Sutton for his postings, you should first be aware of Glaucon's postings.

I hope the rain has stopped, wish it would move on down here, and you can resume your work. Have a constructive and rewarding week.

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May 5, 2014 17:31:11   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
A cover up has never been proven after several inquirys. "New" evidence needs to be proven. Until there is proven truth that there was a cover up I shall not assume there was.
jack sequim wa wrote:
Bush, wasn't covering them up!! Are you kidding, you do see the difference?

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May 5, 2014 17:39:14   #
Glaucon
 
fom wrote:
A cover up has never been proven after several inquirys. "New" evidence needs to be proven. Until there is proven truth that there was a cover up I shall not assume there was.


Fom,

It gives me hope to find one person who wants to hold with innocent until proven guilty. Republican or Democrat, it is only fair and reasonable to follow this rule. Factoid are things that seem like facts, but are only accusations of misdeeds we are want desperately to believe are true.
That is the first rule of critical thinking and I am pleased that you followed the rule of innocent until guilty while extremists, when considering the behaviors of those the think of as "others" presume guilt...Period.

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May 5, 2014 17:45:58   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Ok you got me. I have faith that the innocent shall prevail.
Glaucon wrote:
Fom,

It gives me hope to find one person who wants to hold with innocent until proven guilty. Republican or Democrat, it is only fair and reasonable to follow this rule. Factoid are things that seem like facts, but are only accusations of misdeeds we are want desperately to believe are true.
That is the first rule of critical thinking and I am pleased that you followed the rule of innocent until guilty while extremists, when considering the behaviors of those the think of as "others" presume guilt...Period.
Fom, br br It gives me hope to find one person wh... (show quote)

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May 5, 2014 17:46:45   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
Tradition wrote:
Bless you, Ricko. Your post was terrific!!! I agree with every fact you mentioned. The Democrats want Benghazi to "go away," but it is their deceit and delay tactics that have prolonged the investigations of this tragedy. The victims' families have the right to know what happened to their loved ones. Hillary made a promise to Sean Smith's mother on the day he returned to America - in a coffin: There would be justice done! The only jailed person was a film maker - and he had nothing to do with Benghazi. Knowing now what Hillary had promised to a grieving mother makes that callous remark of hers about "WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE" even more egregious. It was beyond cruel!!


As far as Glaucon is concerned - He will always defend Obama and the Liberals - it matters not to him that all your facts and deductions have been proven valid. I dealt with him during a previous topic and his responses were always accusatory. He cannot believe that a white person who is anti-Obama can be anything but bigoted. His modus operandi is to rail "racist" whenever he finds himself unable to defend the indefensible. He has continued to accuse me, even on this topic. In the past I tried rising above his slander with civil discourse, but it was an exercise in futility.

You're so right, Ricko. When he asked me to validate MY comments, I posted an at-length narrative. When it was his turn, he was suddenly "too busy to answer - he had too many projects and I was 'close-minded' and stubborn." He, again, insulted me and so I left him to stew in his own prejudices. The "vile mouth" and "attacking the messenger when losing the argument" conclusions which you expressed were absolutely on target. Though it was inadvertent, your comments provided confirmation to me of the opinions I had reached about his intolerance and dogma. Thank You for that!!
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Tradition-I find it disheartening when the democrat leadership at the highest level dismisses the preventable deaths of four Americans as if they
meant nothing. These are the same people who proclaim at every opportunity that they are the party of the people. The only time they are the true representatives of the people is when they can gain something from the people. Yes, there have been other attacks at embassies across the world but most were not preventable. It is difficult to stop a truck bomb when the driver is intent on killing. Yes. In many cases the security could have been strengthened ahead of time to prevent the occurrence and such is the case in Benghazi as well. The crux of the matter here , however, is that the embassy was under attack, they asked for help, and nobody responded. It was a total failure from the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to the SEC DEF, to the Secretary of State and finally to the President who was asleep at the switch while the attack raged on for 8 hours. To add insult to injury the White House then conjured up a story to protect the president's failure to act. That, in my view, is criminal and we all saw how it was handled when Brett Baer questioned one of the individuals involved. He dismissed it as something mundane that happened two years ago. Typical democrat do not give a tinkers damn attitude. The Watergate burglars spent time in jail for a lot less. Let us hope real justice prevails. Good Luck America !!!

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May 5, 2014 17:52:10   #
Brian Devon
 
Glaucon wrote:
The dead horse reference is not a real, actual dead horse. It is what we call a metaphor. I was only trying to point out, again, that the Benghazi nonsense is a political con without substance that is costing us precious time and money. The investigations, studies, and hearings have all come up empty and extremists have to continue to beat the horse (metaphor) or get a new horse. I think the Republicans would be way ahead if the would go back to the birth certificate nonsense. It think it still has legs (another metaphor).
The dead horse reference is not a real, actual dea... (show quote)





Glaucon,
The Republicans/Fox are masters of the art of "gotcha" politics. If you ask for "what purpose" would they continue to flog this dead horse, you will find your answer. It's of no use against our president but it is of use against Hillary Clinton. They would use it to bring her down, like they used Richard Mellon Scaife's Arkansas project to (sort of) bring down Bill Clinton.

President Obama? He's not running again. He can't be impeached, convicted, and removed because it requires a 2/3 vote of the Senate.

The GOP noise machine is not easily bored and they hold onto their prey like a pit bull. I think the MSM needs to spray some journalistic mace into their beady little eyes.

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May 5, 2014 18:06:57   #
Snoopy
 
Glaucon wrote:
This issue has been investigated to an extreme. There are a lot of legitimate answers out there and a lot of political propaganda. You can take your pick What the fuck answers do you want? If you are looking for answers that show Obama bad, Hillary bad, you might have to wait a very long time or, as usual, just make shit up. You want some answers, you couldn't handle legitimate answers.


Glaucon

How come it took 20 months and a court order to get the latest info. ALL the e-mails were requested initially. The fucking answers we want are the TRUTH!

Snoopy

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May 5, 2014 18:31:39   #
CDM Loc: Florida
 
Glaucon wrote:
This issue has been investigated to an extreme. There are a lot of legitimate answers out there and a lot of political propaganda. You can take your pick What the fuck answers do you want? If you are looking for answers that show Obama bad, Hillary bad, you might have to wait a very long time or, as usual, just make shit up. You want some answers, you couldn't handle legitimate answers.


Investigated to extreme...yes. You, like most uninformed or biased people, are confused, thinking that investigation without answers forthcoming from those under investigation is sufficient after passage of some predetermined period of time.

There is no limit on investigation. The victimized dead don't watch the clock...even from the grave they demand answers from just men.

Obama and Clinton may may not be guilty of misfeasance; they are though guilty of deceit and abuse of power given to them by a trusting people.

The investigation will continue in the minds of Americans until the answer is exposed. If you fear that...you fear what has not ben exposed to the light of day...

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