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The real reason trump denies knowing about the russian bounty pooty paid the Taliban
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Jul 5, 2020 17:18:22   #
Hadenough
 
Ike wrote:
It isn't hypothetical that the Viet Cong and NVA were our enemy in Vietnam, and not hypothetical that the Taliban are our enemy in Afghanistan. The only part that could be hypothetical is that the Russians are funding the bounties collected by Taliban fighters (or maybe they go to the Taliban leaders?). And there is enough reporting from reliable sources that Russia is the source of the funding to make it more than hypothetical. It at least should be taken seriously by this administration and the classified evidence looked at with an open mind, but I don't see that happening. Trump's attitude seems to be that his "friend" Putin wouldn't do such an underhanded thing, and Putin has denied it. The KGB never lied about what they were doing, did they?
It isn't hypothetical that the Viet Cong and NVA w... (show quote)


Ike,

You seem like a reasonable person, I would like to propose a question to you. I’m sure you know what a mercenary is. There are mercenaries being paid to fight by other countries in Afghanistan against us, (UK, France, Germany, Indonesia, many African nations with populations of Muslims, Pakistan) and many more. They are getting paid to do harm to our BRAVE men and women, should we declare war on their countries of origin?
Many of those news media got their information from an unnamed source, how can you verify truth from fiction? I’m surprised we don’t have a shortage of whistles along with PPE. Something else to blame President Trump for. Curious for your response.

KAG
God Bless the USA and President Trump

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Jul 5, 2020 19:24:31   #
Ike Loc: Minnesota Iron Range
 
Hadenough wrote:
Ike,

What sources are you going by, cnn, msnbc? Remember if those are your sources, they don’t always tell the truth. How many times have you heard anything positive out of those sources or any other left media source?
If you prefer a knee jerk reaction go for it and continue listening to the hawks.
I personally don’t put credence in those sources alone.
Don’t forget it was China and Russia providing training and weapons to the nva and vc.

KAG
God Bless the USA and President Trump
Ike, br br What sources are you going by, cnn, ms... (show quote)


The NY Times and Washington Post. You probably don't have any more faith in them than you do in CNN and MSNBC, but I think they try hard to get to the truth, and when they get something wrong, they own up to it.

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Jul 5, 2020 19:29:07   #
Hadenough
 
Ike wrote:
The NY Times and Washington Post. You probably don't have any more faith in them than you do in CNN and MSNBC, but I think they try hard to get to the truth, and when they get something wrong, they own up to it.


Ike,

They need to do due diligence before putting out information and retract it later. I have always said once words leave your mouth they can cut deeper than a knife and after awhile “sorry” is meaningless. You can forgive, it is harder to FORGET.

KAG
God Bless the USA and President Trump

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Jul 5, 2020 19:30:30   #
WEBCO
 
Ike wrote:
It isn't hypothetical that the Viet Cong and NVA were our enemy in Vietnam, and not hypothetical that the Taliban are our enemy in Afghanistan. The only part that could be hypothetical is that the Russians are funding the bounties collected by Taliban fighters (or maybe they go to the Taliban leaders?). And there is enough reporting from reliable sources that Russia is the source of the funding to make it more than hypothetical. It at least should be taken seriously by this administration and the classified evidence looked at with an open mind, but I don't see that happening. Trump's attitude seems to be that his "friend" Putin wouldn't do such an underhanded thing, and Putin has denied it. The KGB never lied about what they were doing, did they?
It isn't hypothetical that the Viet Cong and NVA w... (show quote)


There are NO reliable sources that back the Russian bounty story. If it was reliable, don't you think Adam Schitt would have brought it up to the NSC or the gang of 8 ?

He has heard this rumor since February. Yet he never mentioned it, why is that? Politics as usual

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Jul 5, 2020 19:32:34   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Ike wrote:
The NY Times and Washington Post. You probably don't have any more faith in them than you do in CNN and MSNBC, but I think they try hard to get to the truth, and when they get something wrong, they own up to it.



You listed 4 MSM sources. Are you serious. The NYT tries hard to get to the truth? You must be joking. If you can't see their leftist agenda, you are in need of some education. I tried watching CNN and MSNBC for a while and my blood pressure got almost out of hand. Those sources are so left-wing biased and they don't try to hide it. Don Lemon is a leftist and doesn't make pretenses. I don't see how you can say they go for the truth. If they do, they are missing the mark by miles.

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Jul 5, 2020 19:34:56   #
WEBCO
 
Ike wrote:
The NY Times and Washington Post. You probably don't have any more faith in them than you do in CNN and MSNBC, but I think they try hard to get to the truth, and when they get something wrong, they own up to it.


Really...has the NYT given back their pulitzer prizes for their "accurate reporting" of the Russian collusion story?

I don't remember seeing or hearing a retraction for their 2 years of lying and " mis-reporting"

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Jul 5, 2020 20:06:45   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
WEBCO wrote:
There are NO reliable sources that back the Russian bounty story. If it was reliable, don't you think Adam Schitt would have brought it up to the NSC or the gang of 8 ?

He has heard this rumor since February. Yet he never mentioned it, why is that? Politics as usual

Even Eric Schmitt who wrote this garbage could not cite any actual examples of a “Russian bounty"
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/russian-bounties-us-dead-soldiers-another-nyt-soros-piss-tape-fake/

Even Bolton has changed his tune
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bolton-changes-tune-now-refuses-answer-russian-bounties-questions-after-vocally-pushing

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Jul 5, 2020 20:59:07   #
Hadenough
 
Ike wrote:
The NY Times and Washington Post. You probably don't have any more faith in them than you do in CNN and MSNBC, but I think they try hard to get to the truth, and when they get something wrong, they own up to it.


Ike,

It’s nice being able to have a civil exchange with you.
I can’t help recalling how obummer sent millions to Iran under the cover of darkness yet the media brushed that aside. Is it possible some of those millions are being used against our troops? Or how about the millions of dollars spent on warlords to bring peace only to find out it wasn’t being used for that, not a lot of coverage there.
Then there was millions of foreign aid given to Pakistan while they harbored Ossama bin laden. Of course obummer got lots of accolades for taking him out, but left the doctor that helped us take him out behind.
Not much negativity when it came to the biased media reporting about their little darling. Or when he invited blm to the White House soon after they marched down the street shouting, “ what do we want? Dead cops, when do we want it?now”.

KAG
God Bless the USA and President Trump

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Jul 5, 2020 21:14:52   #
Auntie Dee
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
You guys really have run out of ammunition, haven't you?



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Jul 5, 2020 21:26:03   #
Auntie Dee
 
Ike wrote:
The NY Times and Washington Post. You probably don't have any more faith in them than you do in CNN and MSNBC, but I think they try hard to get to the truth, and when they get something wrong, they own up to it.


Once upon a time...the NYT, WAPO and other newpapers were the kings of information in this country, there are those that choose to believe they still are! But, just like the Communist Democrats are no longer the party of your dad & JFK, they have changed their stripes and are now owned and beholden to the NWO globalist movement which is trying everything in it's power to "transform" the USA so as to control it's wealth & citizens!

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Jul 5, 2020 22:14:09   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Auntie Dee wrote:
Once upon a time...the NYT, WAPO and other newpapers were the kings of information in this country, there are those that choose to believe they still are! But, just like the Communist Democrats are no longer the party of your dad & JFK, they have changed their stripes and are now owned and beholden to the NWO globalist movement which is trying everything in it's power to "transform" the USA so as to control it's wealth & citizens!



Exactly and Absolutely!!

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Jul 6, 2020 01:20:47   #
Ike Loc: Minnesota Iron Range
 
Hadenough wrote:
Ike,

It’s nice being able to have a civil exchange with you.
I can’t help recalling how obummer sent millions to Iran under the cover of darkness yet the media brushed that aside. Is it possible some of those millions are being used against our troops? Or how about the millions of dollars spent on warlords to bring peace only to find out it wasn’t being used for that, not a lot of coverage there.
Then there was millions of foreign aid given to Pakistan while they harbored Ossama bin laden. Of course obummer got lots of accolades for taking him out, but left the doctor that helped us take him out behind.
Not much negativity when it came to the biased media reporting about their little darling. Or when he invited blm to the White House soon after they marched down the street shouting, “ what do we want? Dead cops, when do we want it?now”.

KAG
God Bless the USA and President Trump
Ike, br br It’s nice being able to have a civil e... (show quote)


The money was Iran's, which went back to the days of the Shah. He ordered and prepaid for weapons, which we were happy to supply when he was in power. When his regime was overthrown, we did not send the weapons, but kept the money.

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Jul 6, 2020 15:04:06   #
Hadenough
 
Ike wrote:
The money was Iran's, which went back to the days of the Shah. He ordered and prepaid for weapons, which we were happy to supply when he was in power. When his regime was overthrown, we did not send the weapons, but kept the money.


Ike,

Doesn’t it make sense to you? Our agreement was with an ally, not a crazed US & Israel hating mullah, an avowed sponsor of terrorism.
Legal or not why did he do it so secretly? He always bragged about the transparency of his administration, then sends millions of dollars to a terrorist while our troops are still in war zones. Sure showed his allegiance to our country.
Let me put it in a scenario that would be more personal.
Scenario: you had a neighbor who was great never a problem, he died suddenly and his crazed mentally disturbed brother moves in. This brother immediately starts causing problems with neighbors, vandalism, racist comments, neighborhood thugs start hanging out at his house, nothing but problems. He has told you he hates Jews and minority’s and wouldn’t mind eliminating them. In the same conversation he says his brother told him you were an arms dealer and wants you to sell him a weapon. Knowing his past comments and behavior would you sell him a weapon, legally or illegally?
Think about it, a lot like what obummer did. I’m sure the funds went to their nuclear arms program and funding terrorist groups. Very little was mentioned in the media and what was, went along the same lines as your post.
Doesn’t make a lot of sense considering the circumstances.

KAG
God Bless the USA and President Trump

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