Lt. Rob Polans ret.

Oh, the Rothchild Cabal... You're one of those folks that think our elections are so important to the "Rothchilds" that they stake their fortunes on them. I give that a 1:10000 chance of being true. The Bushes are part of the business world built on the foundation of the new world order brought about by the American hegemony that followed WW2. That NWO is called neoliberalism and it's been the vanguard of free-market capitalism for the last 80 years. The Clintons became part of that world order through their foundation after leaving the White House. Compared to the Bushes the Trumps are small potatoes and Trump probably has a huge chip on his shoulder because he was never included in that top level and that probably explains his whole thing with the "deep state".

First, learn to spell. However, ask Hillary how important the Rothschilds are. Okay, you've just shown at least me what you know or don't know. I don't know where you got NWO=neoliberalism it's anything but. Do you know who the Illuminati, Bill Gates, Henry Kissinger, Clintons are? Those are some of the NWO besides the Rothschilds. What do they want? Free market? Thanks for the laugh. Read Agenda 21 in Wikipedia They want a one-world governance. Their biggest problem (I don't think they're aware of is) China wants to dominate the world by itself. To accomplish everything (this part may sound like sciences fiction, but after the virus killed so many) one part of the agenda is the genocide of 90% of earth's population and they were getting there, weren't they? That's one of the other games afoot. Others are more mundane.

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

So you think there are just black hats and white hats? There are other colors in the spectrum.

federally indicted mattoid

There seem to be 2 camps of trumpites. The ones you just described and the "whataboutists"

There is some overlap, but the first camp doesn't know how to defend him without copying and pasting those videos and links that they think are coming from the "smart people." Yes, you're right, there is something they DO NOT want to admit.

The whataboutists just say Hillary/Obama/some democrat did this or that. Benghazi or FnF or who knows what they keep stuck in their teeth and worry.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

I'll bet your tennis shoes are yellow. Drip, drip, drip.Your comment is absolutely nuts. I sometimes think people like you really don't exist and it's always a shock to come to the realization that you do.

Rose42

I've seen Mike explain his position.

I don't support Trump - never have - and have said so many times. I also don't support the corruption and stupidity in the democrat party either.

What your post tells me is you either don't pay that much attention to detail or you are stuck in the ever so useless 'us vs them' game.

straightUp Loc: California

LOL - Maybe it seems that way to you. And maybe it's true for some of the anti-Trump people. Keep in mind the people who oppose Trump's presidency come from a wide range of cultures, and political affiliations. We are not all the same. Some of them I don't care much for. Also bear in mind that almost all of the media in America is commercially driven, so they cover what sells and I can tell you now, right-wing consumers are far more interested in those crazy left-wing activists, than they are in people like me.

BTW, I realize it works the same way on both sides... I can see how the left-wing media focuses on the worst examples of Trump supporters and it gets worse as you leave the mainstream. My left and right are the NYT and the WSJ.



Politicians typically lie through omission or creative interpretation, it's usually more like stretching the truth. Unfortunately, not everyone is smart enough to figure out their rhetoric and these people will most likely fall back on accusations of outright falsehood. Back when we had a real president, I challenged people here to come up with a list of Obama's lies and most of them were actually missed targets. A fine point but when a leader says we're going to reach for 100% this year and a year later the tally comes up to 60%, it's not that the leader lied, he just couldn't predict the future. These are the subtleties that allow people to draw a distinction between the clever rhetoric of standard politics and the blatant lies we get from Trump. He is the first president in televised history to have lied as frequently and as well, stupidly as he does... pretty much every time he opens his mouth.

The second thing to consider here is that it's not so much Trump's lies that bother us. If anything, his lies becomes a cash cow stories for the left-wing media because people on the left have a morbid fascination with them. It's like dark humor. What "bothers" us is watching you folks fall for it. It's hard to share a democracy with morons, 'cause they screw things up for all of us.


People don't become millionaires from serving in public office. The highest salary is $400,000 for the president, in Congress they get about half that and it goes down from there. People are either wealthy before they take office like Bush and Trump or they make their money after they leave office like the Clintons did.


If you are defining the decline of this country as the result of a decline in moral fabric, that's got very little to do with politics. That has more to do with younger generations find other ways to co-exist with the world and uptight clingers getting their panties in a wad over it. I know that you bro ;)

"Shut up or we'll hurt you?"
They raise their voices hysterically and tell Trump to shut up or we will hurt you, we'll even go so far as to impeach you, some have threatened to kill him.
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Yeaaah - I dunno... "Shut up or we'll hurt you"? I don't think so... I can see that happening with anonymous letters and chickensh-t like that but raising their voices and telling Trump to his face to "Shut up or we'll hurt you" ? Yeah, that would be a headline story. And again, Obama got far worse from the racists than Trump ever got from scary snowflakes.


You can be determined and stupid at the same time... ask any jack-ass. Blunt like turrets, plain speaking like retarded.


No he's not. He's criminally dishonest. You know what he's doing right now? Him and his brood of vile spawn? They're trying to push a class-action lawsuit filed against them for racketeering into arbitration so it won't be visible to the public. The courts have denied the motion and now they're appealing to the Supreme Court. Just to have their case pushed to private arbitration. The charges are against the deceitful actions carried out by Trump and his three stooge children before Trump even got to office.

You folks want to make this all about a reaction to his presidency and he already had a trail of lies and lawsuits before he even got to Washington. That why most Americans voted against him. Most Americans already knew he's a crook.


No, they hate him because of his lying, his disrespect and his legal actions. We also hate having to share a democracy with the suckers that think Trump is telling the truth.

straightUp Loc: California

Then YOU should be able to explain it... So, CAN you?


OK


Yeah, that's just not the case. I'm a successful white male, I'm probably one of the least victimized people on this web site which is why I can be so annoyingly objective. I'm looking at this more from an observational perspective. Like you, I see fault on all sides, but I'm also recognizing an anomaly. Trump is only a part of it, there is a growing resentment rising out of an increasingly ignorant population. It's a ripe harvest for fascism and Trump is following all the steps. I joke about him being too lame to achieve it and... well, actually I'm not joking about that, I do think he's too lame but it's not Trump that concerns me. It's the fact that if people are stupid enough to fall for his BS, what's to stop a more capable person from talking advantage of that growing ignorance and resentment?

straightUp Loc: California

Do you folks really have that much trouble with simple English or are you play a game? I was talking about BigMike's assertion. HE was the one equating "us" to "Trump" and I was asking him if that's how he saw it... "us" vs "them"

Yeah, I just read it again, it's pretty darned clear. You can't be THAT stupid, so I'm going to assume you're playing games.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Appreciate you always telling us who and what you really are. Self-absorbed jokers are a dime a dozen. Good company you keep.

Rose42

You’re not annoying nor are you as objective as you claim.

Yes people are increasingly ignorant in many areas. People are stupid enough to fall for the democrats bs too. What they have is an old guy who represents the same old corrupt system.

Much of that rise in ignorance has to do with the rise in social media and infotainment. How many people go beyond headlines or sit back and look at what we are being fed by the media. The media has incited so much panic and fear into people about this virus that they are ripe for a police state. That has nothing to do with Trump. We can very easily end up with food shortages and another depression and that will cause even more suffering.

We’ll see what happens. Americans used to be made of sterner stuff.

federally indicted mattoid

We’ll see what happens. Americans used to be made of sterner stuff. Says Rose42

Yes, we'll see.

How many should die off finding out?

Rose42

How many more do you want to see suffer and die because of food shortages, utility disruptions, etc culminating in another depression? The vast majority recover. Are you forgetting that?

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Just know that I know that you're so jaded that everything you said above was discharged from the mind of a man who lives in a swamp and swims in a cesspool. California! Your powers of concentration and retention filters out Truth and saves the lie. For example, If Obama had been treated a third as badly as the evil Progressives have treated Trump, there very well might have been blood in the streets and it may yet come to that. Hatred is so tangible in Americs one could cut it with a butter knife. Even COVID-19 is blamed against Trump.This kind of irrational hatred was intentionally designed, crafted and created by Progressives for your personal enjoyment and indoctrination. You folks are sick, unfortunately. it a sickness of the mind, a sickness of the soul and as such, it has become your raison d être.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Today, we'd have millions of Americans made of sterner stuff if generations back, democrats hadn't got their gnarly hands on them when they were very young, unscrewed their skull caps, filled their brain pans with mush, and replaced their spines with Jello.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

I recall a couple years ago several of us engaged in a brief conversation about the merits, pro and con, of an old saying, "The Truth don't hurt." Blade, this Truth you express hurts us all on so many different levels, I don't believe we can even begin to assess it. I remain convinced that progressivism hates children.