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Apr 16, 2020 00:26:45   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
straightUp wrote:
Who is "us"?

Do you mean racists? No, we don't give chances to racists.
Do you means misogynists? No, we don't give chances to them either.
Do you mean fascists? Nope, sorry.


Trump.

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Apr 16, 2020 00:30:03   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
straightUp wrote:
So, what I hear you say is neither you nor Trump have the strength to deal unruly people. Apparently, some obnoxious, interruptive, FEMALE reporter is all it takes to goad you into fits of rage and delirium.

I agree.


Don't be a simpleton. Trump has been under a constant and incessant barrage from your arrogant and disrespectful Pravda style press since his announcement that he would run.They have gone too far and are destroying the concept of the 1st Amendment with their constant lies and fabrication to sustain
the Left's Marxist, Anti-American, agenda. Considering what the leftist bastards have put him thru he's maintained his demeanour very well. You, of course, because of your hatred, eagerly support every lie and attack against him because you believe it's justified. Do you feel at all responsible for helping to establish precedence on the acceptance of showing open disrespect for any president and the ease to fabricate an illegitimate impeachment? It's in the cards now. Harry Reid destroyed the decorum and camaraderie of the Senate by using the Nuclear Option. We've used it to strengthen the Supreme Court and Progs screamed and protested like the fools they are guided only by their emotions, devoid of reason yet believing they are wise.

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Apr 16, 2020 00:36:31   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
padremike wrote:
Don't be a simpleton. Trump has been under a constant and incessant barrage from your arrogant and disrespectful Pravda style press since his announcement that he would run.They have gone too far and are destroying the concept of the 1st Amendment with their constant lies and fabrication to sustain
the Left's Marxist, Anti-American, agenda. Considering what the leftist bastards have put him thru he's maintained his demeanour very well. You, of course, because of your hatred, eagerly support every lie and attack against him because you believe it's justified. Do you feel at all responsible for helping to establish precedence on the acceptance of showing open disrespect for any president and the ease to fabricate an illegitimate impeachment? It's in the cards now. Harry Reid destroyed the decorum and camaraderie of the Senate by using the Nuclear Option. We've used it to strengthen the Supreme Court and Progs screamed and protested like the fools they are guided only by their emotions, devoid of reason yet believing they are wise.
Don't be a simpleton. Trump has been under a cons... (show quote)


Dance time! they'll figure it out sooner or later.

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Apr 16, 2020 02:48:08   #
woodguru
 
straightUp wrote:
I knew he didn't actually mean "absolute" as in absolute tyranny. He's just not very articulate and maybe that bothers him so he tries to hide it and that's why he so often appears lost when he talks. Hell, I don't know. But I knew as soon as I heard him utter those words... I stopped what I was doing and thought... the media is going to have a field day with this.

He walked it back the next day. And this is what I love about those moments when Trump isn't actually screwing anything up. He's just giving the media all kinds of material to feed their Trump-hating subscribers. He came out to the Rose Garden and said... (now get this)...

"The governors are going to be running their individual states."
(Yes, Donny, that's what they do)

"Some of them will say, 'No, I can't open now.'"
(And you wouldn't have the authority to do anything about it.)

"And some may last longer than we even would think."
(Seriously, what does that even mean?)

blah, blah, blah, then he says this...

"I will then be authorizing each individual governor of each individual state to implement a reopening."
(Donny, the Constitution beat you to it. They're already authorized to open AND close the states they govern. Notice how they're closed now? Was that you? No? You see, Donny, the governors closed their states, not you. And by that same authority, granted by the U.S.Constitution no less, they can open them right back up again. But you go right ahead and "con" your people into thinking that you're in charge, just like you've been doing for three years now.)

Actually, it's possible he could exercise executive power as laid out in a series of FEMA-related EOs, to take over industries. But so far he hasn't done that. But if he wants to have that authority over the states, he needs to implement those orders and I'm sure he's being steeply advised against that. Unless he's ready, and capable enough to dismiss the democracy entirely, taking over the industries would destroy his chances at surviving an election.

So... all you racists out there need to find a competent leader if you really want to resurrect fascism. Good luck with that. As for the fools that support him because they're convinced he really is making things better for all of America - just take a look around. Do you really think things are better? Honestly, I don't think the Good Lord can make things any clearer for you.
I i knew /i he didn't actually mean "absolu... (show quote)


There is no absolute authority, it is a delusion in an idiot's mind

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Apr 16, 2020 03:26:55   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
woodguru wrote:
There is no absolute authority, it is a delusion in an idiot's mind
There is an Epiphany out there somewhere with your name on it, if I were you, I'd start looking for it.

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Apr 16, 2020 07:36:38   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
BigMike wrote:
You're for the other side. Simple

Well, coming from you I know it would have to be simple, but... other side of what?

I suppose it's obvious I don't like Trump. So is THAT the other side for you? Does your entire universe revolve around Trump. So everyone is either pro-Trump or anti-Trump and nothing else matters? LOL

Look, If you had the capacity to understand more, you might actually realize that neither myself nor anyone with my political profile is responsible for giving Trump ANYTHING. But you make it very clear, that you don't understand these things, so I guess a challenging conversation is out of the question.

I'm just glad to remind you that there are people who don't agree with those in your tiny little circle of outcasts that think Trump will beat up the world for you.

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Apr 16, 2020 07:44:37   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
BigMike wrote:
Trump.


So, that's it? When you refer to "us" you are referring to Trump? That sounds like a cult of personality. Do you have his portrait in your bedroom? LOL

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Apr 16, 2020 08:07:56   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
padremike wrote:
Don't be a simpleton. Trump has been under a constant and incessant barrage from your arrogant and disrespectful Pravda style press since his announcement that he would run.

That doesn't change what I said about being too weak to deal with it.

padremike wrote:

They have gone too far and are destroying the concept of the 1st Amendment with their constant lies and fabrication to sustain the Left's Marxist, Anti-American, agenda.

Yeah, you keep saying that but you never back it up. I don't think you know anything about anyone's agenda. All you know is when someone opposes Trump then you get all riled up. LOL

padremike wrote:

Considering what the leftist bastards have put him thru he's maintained his demeanour very well.

That's nothing compared to seething hatred and lies volleyed from the right that Obama had to deal with and he never lost his cool or got goaded into saying idiot things.

padremike wrote:

You, of course, because of your hatred, eagerly support every lie and attack against him because you believe it's justified.

I don't believe any lie is justified and they're certainly not necessary to attack Trump. Lying is what you folks had to do to attack Obama and Clinton. Trump, on the other hand, is a motherlode of corruption, incompetence and lies. His attackers don't need to dream anything up. The late night comedians don't even need writers anymore. LOL

padremike wrote:

Do you feel at all responsible for helping to establish precedence on the acceptance of showing open disrespect for any president and the ease to fabricate an illegitimate impeachment?

I think that precedence for open disrespect for any president was already set when Obama was on office. As for impeachment, if you think it was illegitimate then you don't understand the law.

padremike wrote:

It's in the cards now. Harry Reid destroyed the decorum and camaraderie of the Senate by using the Nuclear Option. We've used it to strengthen the Supreme Court and Progs screamed and protested like the fools they are guided only by their emotions, devoid of reason yet believing they are wise.

Well, you are obviously a dedicated partisan. Maybe one day you will surprise me with a rational argument instead of endless rants.

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Apr 16, 2020 08:22:38   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
woodguru wrote:
There is no absolute authority, it is a delusion in an idiot's mind

Yeah, it's tempting to say that. I guess I'm giving him some benefit of doubt. There are certain laws that allow for a president to assume near-absolute power in cases of emergency and I think that's what he was calling absolute. Like I said, he's just not very articulate. He's also very impulsive, so he tends to blurt things out leaving his staff scrambling to control the damage. LOL

As for that power, he was incorrect in stating it applies to the given situation and that's why he had to walk it back the next day. He has to invoke those powers first and that would be a bad move if he wants to be reelected.

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Apr 16, 2020 08:23:16   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
straightUp wrote:
Well, coming from you I know it would have to be simple, but... other side of what?

I suppose it's obvious I don't like Trump. So is THAT the other side for you? Does your entire universe revolve around Trump. So everyone is either pro-Trump or anti-Trump and nothing else matters? LOL

Look, If you had the capacity to understand more, you might actually realize that neither myself nor anyone with my political profile is responsible for giving Trump ANYTHING. But you make it very clear, that you don't understand these things, so I guess a challenging conversation is out of the question.

I'm just glad to remind you that there are people who don't agree with those in your tiny little circle of outcasts that think Trump will beat up the world for you.
Well, coming from you I know it would have to be s... (show quote)


Typical of your own real clear thinking and arrogance. You claim Mike's thinking is "simple" and then simply suggest the ctitical issues of concern are reduced to pro-Trump or anti-Trump. I can assure you our support for Mr. Trump is far more detailed than personality. Personality, emotions and feelings control and motivate Progressives and rob them of reason and productive thought. They attract their converts with irresponsible carnal passions therefore we always know where their brains are located. It's really very simple.

"Tiny circle of outcasts?" More foolish fodder destined for the bovine scat heap.

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Apr 16, 2020 08:29:59   #
Cuda2020
 
straightUp wrote:
I knew he didn't actually mean "absolute" as in absolute tyranny. He's just not very articulate and maybe that bothers him so he tries to hide it and that's why he so often appears lost when he talks. Hell, I don't know. But I knew as soon as I heard him utter those words... I stopped what I was doing and thought... the media is going to have a field day with this.

He walked it back the next day. And this is what I love about those moments when Trump isn't actually screwing anything up. He's just giving the media all kinds of material to feed their Trump-hating subscribers. He came out to the Rose Garden and said... (now get this)...

"The governors are going to be running their individual states."
(Yes, Donny, that's what they do)

"Some of them will say, 'No, I can't open now.'"
(And you wouldn't have the authority to do anything about it.)

"And some may last longer than we even would think."
(Seriously, what does that even mean?)

blah, blah, blah, then he says this...

"I will then be authorizing each individual governor of each individual state to implement a reopening."
(Donny, the Constitution beat you to it. They're already authorized to open AND close the states they govern. Notice how they're closed now? Was that you? No? You see, Donny, the governors closed their states, not you. And by that same authority, granted by the U.S.Constitution no less, they can open them right back up again. But you go right ahead and "con" your people into thinking that you're in charge, just like you've been doing for three years now.)

Actually, it's possible he could exercise executive power as laid out in a series of FEMA-related EOs, to take over industries. But so far he hasn't done that. But if he wants to have that authority over the states, he needs to implement those orders and I'm sure he's being steeply advised against that. Unless he's ready, and capable enough to dismiss the democracy entirely, taking over the industries would destroy his chances at surviving an election.

So... all you racists out there need to find a competent leader if you really want to resurrect fascism. Good luck with that. As for the fools that support him because they're convinced he really is making things better for all of America - just take a look around. Do you really think things are better? Honestly, I don't think the Good Lord can make things any clearer for you.
I i knew /i he didn't actually mean "absolu... (show quote)


Biden hit the nail on the head this morning, saying that Trump just doesn't get it, this is not about him, this is about us. Then he continued to say, did you ever think we'd be in this kind of circumstance, it's bizarre. He concluded with, Joe being Joe, that the American people will come out of this better and stronger than before. And there it is.

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Apr 16, 2020 08:51:36   #
Cuda2020
 
padremike wrote:
Don't be a simpleton. Trump has been under a constant and incessant barrage from your arrogant and disrespectful Pravda style press since his announcement that he would run.They have gone too far and are destroying the concept of the 1st Amendment with their constant lies and fabrication to sustain
the Left's Marxist, Anti-American, agenda. Considering what the leftist bastards have put him thru he's maintained his demeanour very well. You, of course, because of your hatred, eagerly support every lie and attack against him because you believe it's justified. Do you feel at all responsible for helping to establish precedence on the acceptance of showing open disrespect for any president and the ease to fabricate an illegitimate impeachment? It's in the cards now. Harry Reid destroyed the decorum and camaraderie of the Senate by using the Nuclear Option. We've used it to strengthen the Supreme Court and Progs screamed and protested like the fools they are guided only by their emotions, devoid of reason yet believing they are wise.
Don't be a simpleton. Trump has been under a cons... (show quote)


He's maintained his demeanor... and what demeanor is that? One of malicious contempt, arrogant, rude and insulting to reporters that are simply asking a question he doesn't want to answer, that demeanor? Then yeah you're right, he has maintained.

Strengthen the Supreme court, here also your definition of to strengthen is to put the supreme court siding to the right, it only strengthens his and your positions to be able to roll over half of Americans and proceed to your fascist,anti-American agenda. More sacking of people's rights, and the environment. Yeah you better believe we are screaming, screaming for our democracy, and when that doesn't work, we'll do something else. So keep on trying your voter suppression and prepare for our second wave.

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Apr 16, 2020 09:12:58   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
straightUp wrote:
Well, you are obviously a dedicated partisan. Maybe one day you will surprise me with a rational argument instead of endless rants.


You simpletons disgustingly compare Obama's treatment by his adoring Marxists media, Progressive politicians and the dysfunctional slobbering Hollywood human waste products to the treatment given to Mr. Trump. Time and time again you birds prove your compete lack of balance and true understanding so it is an unreasonable assumption on your part that Conservatives can ever have any sort of a rational discussion with irrational Progressives unless conservatives become willing to compromise traditional American morals, values and spirituality; a compromise common to the Marxist Progressive agenda and philosophy.
Yet that's precisely why you're Progressives isn't it? You can comfortably share the same dead soul killing philosophy with your own kind in joyful ignorance and continuous agreement while militantly trying to force feed those of us who know better into some sort of governmental compliance. You will lose. You always lose.

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Apr 16, 2020 09:49:16   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
He's maintained his demeanor... and what demeanor is that? One of malicious contempt, arrogant, rude and insulting to reporters that are simply asking a question he doesn't want to answer, that demeanor? Then yeah you're right, he has maintained.

Strengthen the Supreme court, here also your definition of to strengthen is to put the supreme court siding to the right, it only strengthens his and your positions to be able to roll over half of Americans and proceed to your fascist,anti-American agenda. More sacking of people's rights, and the environment. Yeah you better believe we are screaming, screaming for our democracy, and when that doesn't work, we'll do something else. So keep on trying your voter suppression and prepare for our second wave.
He's maintained his demeanor... and what demeanor ... (show quote)


How can anyone successfully answer comments back to someone lacking knowledge, information and awareness and chuck full of bewilderment? This bird hasn't a clue. He is another glaring example of an extreme danger to our Republic and is foolish enough to believe he's a representative for the good. So many American converts over a relatively short period of time; a pandemic sickness of soul completely eclipsing the mere Coronavirus pandemic.

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Apr 16, 2020 09:58:07   #
Cuda2020
 
padremike wrote:
How can anyone successfully answer comments back to someone lacking knowledge, information and awareness and chuck full of bewilderment? This bird hasn't a clue. He is another glaring example of an extreme danger to our Republic and is foolish enough to believe he's a representative for the good. So many American converts over a relatively short period of time; a pandemic sickness of soul completely eclipsing the mere Coronavirus pandemic.


I agree Trump is clueless and is another glaring example of an extreme danger to our Republic and is foolish enough to believe he's a representative for the good.

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