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Feb 7, 2020 12:00:47 #
teabag09 wrote:
Absolutely NO! In addition to trying to change the gun laws in Virginia the newly elected demoncrat house is going to vote on removing RIGHT to WORK in the State. They are going to make it AGAINST the LAW to criticize govt. officials, a felony, no less.
How does eliminating Right to Work make it against the law to criticize government officials, let alone a felony?
Feb 7, 2020 12:02:25 #
proud republican wrote:
Should Americans be forced to join Labor Unions???
Hell no! Labor unions are a step away from socialism which is a step away from communism. Yes some pay their dues (freakin' heavy ones) and work all of their lives as complacent maroons. The Archie Bunker character was one, but they are just puppets doing whatever the bosses tell them. WHATEVER kiss my gutt in Times Square "okay Mr. Rockefeller." Like that.
Feb 7, 2020 12:11:36 #
Peewee wrote:
Why can't you just do the job without joining a union? The union didn't create the company, they're just supposed to help the workers without coercion. But they don't seem to be able to do that. Some people have been trying to exit the unions for years, but the unions still steal their money. When they do that, they are no better than thieves.
Some companies make it so you have to be part of a union to work there, stupid isn't it? For all they know they are telling some who can't afford dues "Sorry, try another place." When those people may be the next Tesla or Edison. Unions are corrupt, no getting around that and there are kickbacks from the companies. See the incestuous relationship? Kind of like government. So many inter-marry.
Feb 7, 2020 13:08:25 #
teabag09 wrote:
When I worked for the RR I had to join the Union. They screwed me royal after taking 3 years of dues I didn't want to pay but had to. You can shove Unions where the sun doesn't shine. Unions are pretty much the same as the Mafia! Mike
In what way did they screw you?
Feb 7, 2020 13:10:03 #
teabag09 wrote:
Peter S. I usually did better in the private sector because I used my skills to campaign for what I thought was a fair wage and bennies for what I was going to provide to the employer. Unions allow people who didn't apply themselves to learn skills to be employed at the cost of the employer and their customers. Mike
Most unions provide training to update skills for their workers. This is paid from union dues.
Feb 7, 2020 13:11:33 #
Peewee wrote:
Why can't you just do the job without joining a union? The union didn't create the company, they're just supposed to help the workers without coercion. But they don't seem to be able to do that. Some people have been trying to exit the unions for years, but the unions still steal their money. When they do that, they are no better than thieves.
And many companies won’t respond to anything but coercion.
Feb 7, 2020 13:16:35 #
Peewee wrote:
Maybe if they stopped funding political parties and spent the money on protecting workers. Railroad workers would be better off. If I recall correctly most RR workers make north of 30.00 per hour not counting benefits from day one.
This hasn’t been true since 1988 when the Supreme Court ruled that union workers could opt out of political contributions in Communications Workers of America v Beck.
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/487/735/
Feb 7, 2020 13:51:01 #
Seth wrote:
When I worked in an employee capacity, I never joi... (show quote)
In what way was your friend screwed by the union?
Unfortunately many companies don’t treat their workers fairly. In these cases a union is the best protection.
Federal union employees can be fired. See page 7
https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/employee-relations/reference-materials/managing-federal-employees%E2%80%99-performance-issues-or-misconduct.pdf
State and local civil servants can be fired under similar conditions.
Feb 7, 2020 14:18:50 #
proud republican wrote:
Should Americans be forced to join Labor Unions???
......evoking a question of should you force someone to do something in the ideologie debates of autocracy vs.democracy- suppression vs freedom is not a very sound interrogative that an intellegent person would pursue or ask-
- given the fact that they are habitants of the latter social genre.
In a free society, Ideally, you don't force anyone to do anything,that would be totally antithical to the concept you profess to believe in.It is not a cut and dry situation to be simplified,by asking do you force a person to join a union.There are factors that are advantages and factors that are detrimental to being in a union.
Feb 7, 2020 15:41:27 #
proud republican wrote:
Should Americans be forced to join Labor Unions???
NOT NO BUT HELL NO !!!!!!
Feb 7, 2020 16:06:03 #
Feb 7, 2020 16:06:36 #
PeterS wrote:
Of course not. They also shouldn't be forced to accept the pay labor unions provide, nor the benefits, nor the cost of living raises, nor any of the other benefits labor unions provide.
My suggestion if you want nothing to do with unions then find nonunion work somewhere and enjoy the wondrous benefits of working where you are at the mercy of management. Enjoy!
My suggestion if you want nothing to do with unions then find nonunion work somewhere and enjoy the wondrous benefits of working where you are at the mercy of management. Enjoy!
It's not that simple
Feb 7, 2020 16:08:04 #
teabag09 wrote:
When I worked for the RR I had to join the Union. They screwed me royal after taking 3 years of dues I didn't want to pay but had to. You can shove Unions where the sun doesn't shine. Unions are pretty much the same as the Mafia! Mike
The Bell system, when it existed, was the same. "Pioneers of America" union. Take money, give nothing.
Feb 7, 2020 16:26:06 #
bggamers
Loc: georgia
proud republican wrote:
Should Americans be forced to join Labor Unions???
NO NO NO
Feb 7, 2020 16:32:01 #
bggamers
Loc: georgia
PeterS wrote:
My father-in-law started with the Santa Fe and was... (show quote)
Not everyone is that lucky there are some people that have changed jobs and the one they enter is not a union based job but the union continues to take their money many have had to go to court because they will not let these people out of the union
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