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Feb 1, 2020 18:06:40   #
kemmer
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Where does the Second Amendment say Guns?

Oh right. Spears and sling shots.
Sorry.

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Feb 1, 2020 18:19:04   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Blade, is that you? At home?
FPSRussia

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Feb 1, 2020 19:25:09   #
greenmountaineer Loc: Vermont
 
amadjuster wrote:
Could you pass?


I already passed, decades ago. I agree with the comment, for not only Kushner but the President himself, right in the Oval Office, divulged classified material to the Russian Ambassador.

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Feb 1, 2020 19:39:57   #
flash
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
Leave the constitution alone, I know it bothers you lefties......we could simplify this matter in a couple days, not years.

Move to Canada.


Canada's too close. I say Iran or Venezuela.

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Feb 1, 2020 19:41:19   #
zillaorange
 
dtucker300 wrote:
So you don't want to answer the question. You've shown you true colors. Just another troll.


Not worth wasting a key stroke.

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Feb 1, 2020 19:49:07   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
greenmountaineer wrote:
I already passed, decades ago. I agree with the comment, for not only Kushner but the President himself, right in the Oval Office, divulged classified material to the Russian Ambassador.
So? Happens alla time. US presidents and their administrations exchange classified data with their foreign counterparts on a regular basis. Do you think classified data didn't exchange hands during the Obama/Kerry Iran deal?

From its inception, the United States Intelligence Community (IC) has relied on close relations with foreign partners. These relationships often reflect mutual security interests and the trust each side has of the other’s credibility and professionalism.They are generally strategic and cover a range of national security priorities involving national defense, emerging threats, counter-terrorism, counter-proliferation, treaty compliance,cybersecurity, economic and financial security, counter-narcotics, and piracy.

President Trump really is trying to establish good relations with hostile nations in an attempt to convince them to either get their asses on the peace train or suffer the consequences.

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Feb 1, 2020 19:57:37   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
zillaorange wrote:
Not worth wasting a key stroke.


He's rude, disrespectful, insolent, and most of all bumptious. A consummate waste of time.

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Feb 1, 2020 20:17:21   #
kemmer
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
So? Happens alla time. US presidents and their administrations exchange classified data with their foreign counterparts...

Yeah, as Trump says, the 1st Amendment lets him do whatever he damn well pleases.
And as Mulvaney said, “Get over it”.

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Feb 1, 2020 20:17:55   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
So? Happens alla time. US presidents and their administrations exchange classified data with their foreign counterparts on a regular basis. Do you think classified data didn't exchange hands during the Obama/Kerry Iran deal?

From its inception, the United States Intelligence Community (IC) has relied on close relations with foreign partners. These relationships often reflect mutual security interests and the trust each side has of the other’s credibility and professionalism.They are generally strategic and cover a range of national security priorities involving national defense, emerging threats, counter-terrorism, counter-proliferation, treaty compliance,cybersecurity, economic and financial security, counter-narcotics, and piracy.

President Trump really is trying to establish good relations with hostile nations in an attempt to convince them to either get their asses on the peace train or suffer the consequences.
So? Happens alla time. US presidents and their adm... (show quote)


Absolutely right. The most recent terrorist attack that was planned for in Russia was averted because the U.S shared information with the Russian Government. Isn't it the Democratic Socialists who want the one-world government? What are they complaining about?

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Feb 1, 2020 20:19:09   #
kemmer
 
dtucker300 wrote:
He's rude, disrespectful, insolent, and most of all bumptious. A consummate waste of time.

Aww... Yew say th’ sweetest thangs.

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Feb 1, 2020 20:22:42   #
kemmer
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Isn't it the Democratic Socialists who want the one-world government?

One world gov’t. is 200+ years in future, if that.

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Feb 1, 2020 20:43:57   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
kemmer wrote:
Nobody trusts us with Trump in the WH. China and N Korea play Trump like a fiddle. All they need is a little flattery and a splashy imperial reception and Trump is putty in their hands. Trump says he’s good buddies with Kim and Xi.


Chuckle....

How has China played Trump

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Feb 1, 2020 20:46:39   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Chuckle....

How has China played Trump


Don't expect a well-reasoned answer!

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Feb 1, 2020 20:46:57   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Cowboy Carl wrote:
A-men I agree 100%!


Welcome to the OPP Carl...

Hope you'll stick around

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Feb 1, 2020 21:38:46   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
kemmer wrote:
Every gun was military style
Yup. Single shot flintlock.


Jesus... the 2nd Amendment again?

It's as if these people don't realize there are other things that matter or that we've already heard ALL of their stupid arguments a million times already.

The 2nd Amendment is an ambiguous rule... "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"... So, does a rule that says I can't possess an AK-47 infringe on my right to bear arms if I am still allowed to keep my Mossberg 12-gauge and my Colt .44? That is the ambiguity of the 2nd Amendment and and it's condemning the American people to an endless debate.

The rule itself hinges on a premise that doesn't even exist anymore, "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state". The only reason why a well regulated militia was necessary to the security of a free state is because the U.S. didn't have (or want) a standing army. American republicanism (at the time) preferred to rely on militia.

That started to change a year after the Bill of Rights was ratified with a regiment established on the western frontier to deal with Indians and today we have the most expensive standing army in the world. This invalidates the premise and leaves the rule itself in a questionable state.

I have always been a defender of the 2nd Amendment but I'm changing my mind on this one. I would still like to see our right to bear arms protected, but we need an updated rule for that. One that makes sense in the 21st century because as it stands right now, the 2nd Amendment is just plain stupid.

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