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Jan 31, 2020 12:20:17   #
zillaorange
 
kemmer wrote:
That little comment says more about you than me.


PUNK ! Run & hide when confronted with the truth !!!

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Jan 31, 2020 12:34:42   #
zillaorange
 
By the way, nice to meet you.

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Jan 31, 2020 12:38:42   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
The founders designed the Constitution to be amended by later generations because unlike a lot of people today, they understood the dynamic nature of history. They knew times would change and they wanted their basic principals to be adaptable to the times, hence the idea of amending... a process of adding new rules to override the old rules without actually removing them.

The idea that anyone should be strictly guided by the elaborations of a long gone era is foolish. The basic principles are simple enough... Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. Some legal references call that the "spirit of the letter" while the rules are efforts to secure those principles. But the challenges to securing these basic principals today have almost nothing in common with the challenges to securing them in the 18th century.

The founders predicted this - which is more obvious than genius but that's WHY the Constitution is amendable. Jefferson even went so far as to say, every generation should have a new constitution. I'm inclined to agree as long as the basic principles are preserved.

I suspect the basic impasse is that demographics have changed to where democracy is becoming a threat to those who are losing majority status and often times, it's the antiquated laws that provide them with protection from the interests of the growing majority.

I also think people overestimate the Constitution as the ultimate law of the land. It's not. Private citizens, alien residents and private sector businesses have ZERO obligation to the Constitution which is a small volume of laws that only applies to the government, mostly for the purpose of establishing government protocol but also to keep the republic from becoming a tyranny.

The impeachment trial is proving the Constitution to be less-than-effective in this regard. So as far as I am concerned, any suggestion to change or replace the rules of the Constitution in order to restore its original purpose is very much order.

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Jan 31, 2020 12:42:02   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
zillaorange wrote:
Thank you, I took the same oath at Fort Dix, N. J. !


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Jan 31, 2020 12:44:48   #
Sicilianthing
 
straightUp wrote:
The founders designed the Constitution to be amended by later generations because unlike a lot of people today, they understood the dynamic nature of history. They knew times would change and they wanted their basic principals to be adaptable to the times, hence the idea of amending rather than replacing.

The idea that anyone should be guided by the elaborations of a long gone era is foolish. The basic principles are simple enough... Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. Some legal references call that the "spirit of the letter" while the rules are efforts to secure those principles. But the challenges to securing these basic principals today have almost nothing in common with the challenges to securing them in the 18th century.

The founders predicted this - which is more obvious than genius but that's WHY the Constitution is amendable. Jefferson even went so far as to say, every generation should have a new constitution. I'm inclined to agree as long as the basic principles are preserved.

I suspect the basic impasse is that demographics have changed to where democracy is becoming a threat to those who are losing majority status and often times, it's the antiquated laws that provide them with protection from the interests of the growing majority.

I also think people overestimate the Constitution as the ultimate law of the land. It's not. Private citizens, alien residents and private sector businesses have ZERO obligation to the Constitution which is a small volume of laws that only applies to the government, mostly for the purpose of establishing government protocol but also to keep the republic from becoming a tyranny.

The impeachment trial is proving the Constitution to be less-than-effective in this regard. So as far as I am concerned, any suggestion to change or replace the rules of the Constitution in order to restore its original purpose is very much order.
The founders designed the Constitution to be amend... (show quote)


>>>

Uhhh...

I created this topic for Kemmer last week... I think you should also take the time and read it.

About the Reconstruction Lies Post Civil War
https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-174560-1.html

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Jan 31, 2020 12:45:05   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
SGM B wrote:
Hey Zill - your question wasn't for me but I'll answer - 13 FEB 1968, Armed Forces Induction Center, Oklahoma City, OK - I swore to "protect and defend the Constitution against all enemys, foreign and domestic..." This was, and is a blank check made out to the American people for an amount up to, and including my life.
I have had both, Secret and Top Secret clearances in my career.
Wishing you a great day and fantastic weekend my friend :)
SGM B out.


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Jan 31, 2020 12:50:48   #
zillaorange
 
lindajoy wrote:
THANK YOU, bothπŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»β€οΈβ€οΈβœ¨βœ¨


I'd do it again.

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Jan 31, 2020 12:53:52   #
zillaorange
 
lindajoy wrote:
And I, THANK YOU ever so much..πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»β€οΈβœ¨
I have a secret clearance in mine too~~ I damn well love every one of you!!!πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έβ€οΈβ€οΈβ€οΈ


You're definitely a KEEPER linda. It's my pleasure to have made your acquaintance !

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Jan 31, 2020 13:00:38   #
zillaorange
 
straightUp wrote:
The founders designed the Constitution to be amended by later generations because unlike a lot of people today, they understood the dynamic nature of history. They knew times would change and they wanted their basic principals to be adaptable to the times, hence the idea of amending... a process of adding new rules to override the old rules without actually removing them.

The idea that anyone should be strictly guided by the elaborations of a long gone era is foolish. The basic principles are simple enough... Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. Some legal references call that the "spirit of the letter" while the rules are efforts to secure those principles. But the challenges to securing these basic principals today have almost nothing in common with the challenges to securing them in the 18th century.

The founders predicted this - which is more obvious than genius but that's WHY the Constitution is amendable. Jefferson even went so far as to say, every generation should have a new constitution. I'm inclined to agree as long as the basic principles are preserved.

I suspect the basic impasse is that demographics have changed to where democracy is becoming a threat to those who are losing majority status and often times, it's the antiquated laws that provide them with protection from the interests of the growing majority.

I also think people overestimate the Constitution as the ultimate law of the land. It's not. Private citizens, alien residents and private sector businesses have ZERO obligation to the Constitution which is a small volume of laws that only applies to the government, mostly for the purpose of establishing government protocol but also to keep the republic from becoming a tyranny.

The impeachment trial is proving the Constitution to be less-than-effective in this regard. So as far as I am concerned, any suggestion to change or replace the rules of the Constitution in order to restore its original purpose is very much order.
The founders designed the Constitution to be amend... (show quote)


The Constitution was signed Sept. 17, 1787. The 13th state to ratify it happened May 29, 1787. It's the oldest written Constitution in operation in the WORLD> It's dne great by me, wouldn't have it any other way. From your posted picture you surf, you do so in the GREATEST NATION this world has known !!!

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Jan 31, 2020 13:04:35   #
kemmer
 
padremike wrote:
Better flush the synapses, get new glasses and remove the ear wax. The radical, ignorant obnoxious, violent and morally repugnant mob fly the progressive banner. In fact they're nuts.

Man, the so-called β€œpadre” is on an ugly tear this morning!

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Jan 31, 2020 13:09:14   #
Sicilianthing
 
zillaorange wrote:
The Constitution was signed Sept. 17, 1787. The 13th state to ratify it happened May 29, 1787. It's the oldest written Constitution in operation in the WORLD> It's dne great by me, wouldn't have it any other way. From your posted picture you surf, you do so in the GREATEST NATION this world has known !!!


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The Reconstruction that never happened and about that Constitution you still think is the real one...
https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-174560-1.html

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Jan 31, 2020 13:10:00   #
kemmer
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>

Uhhh...

I created this topic for Kemmer last week... I think you should also take the time and read it.

About the Reconstruction Lies Post Civil War
https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-174560-1.html

I tried wading through your stuff, Sicilian, but it was like a 600 page book with 500 pages of footnotes.
Who IS that raving woman anyway?

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Jan 31, 2020 13:11:37   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>

Uhhh...

I created this topic for Kemmer last week... I think you should also take the time and read it.

About the Reconstruction Lies Post Civil War
https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-174560-1.html


Interesting... I recognize some aspects of this analysis from what I've been told by two of my friends but they had a difficult time articulating it.

It's a lot to digest in one sitting so, I'll refrain from commenting for now, but I intend to do a little research to help me understand the picture better.

Getting back to my post - I wasn't drawing on anything so elaborate. It's really just run-of-the-mill civics, but the idea that private citizens aren't bridled to the Constitution seems to be reflected in your page.

In any case, hats off to getting all that information on one page!

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Jan 31, 2020 13:13:04   #
kemmer
 
zillaorange wrote:
PUNK ! Run & hide when confronted with the truth !!!

You wouldn’t know the truth if it came up and bit you in the gluteus Maximus.

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Jan 31, 2020 13:14:01   #
zillaorange
 
kemmer wrote:
I tried wading through your stuff, Sicilian, but it was like a 600 page book with 500 pages of footnotes.
Who IS that raving woman anyway?


Figures, too damn lazy to try to find the truth. Or do you have a reading problem ?

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