straightUp Loc: California

So this is all the Republicans have... opinions about how "sleazy" they think Democrats are and wild fantasies about them.

In contrast, I have some hard facts to share...



These are ALL the federal politicians convicted of crime since 2000. No imaginary crimes or fabricated conspiracies or personal opinions about how sleazy they are. Just the facts.

Something else to note... The names followed by a party indicator and state (ie.. R-TX) are legislators that people vote for directly. There are 8 such Democrats and 13 such Republicans... In contrast the names with only a party indicator are the politicians appointed by their party. There is only 1 such Democrat and 12 such Republicans. This tells me that the mistakes citizens make when voting is a little more even across the board, but with such an extreme difference in appointments I think it's safe to say the Republican party itself is in fact the indisputable champion of corruption.

son of witless

May I humbly ask where these stats came from ?

Cuda2020

How did you deal with them? All you did was agree without any credible basis. Not one single person on the right can talk about Joe Biden with the pussy-grabber and all of his moronic displays in front of the whole damn world, you may not get embarrassed for US but the rest of the sane population does. It is completely shameful, not to mention his foul mouth in front of children. The narcissist has absolutely no filter, not a single clue of what decorum is as a sitting president. He is Classless.

The fact that you are compelled to not find one person on the left with some attributes, speaks volumes of your skewed and unreasonable opinion. Like I've said there isn't any discussion here, there is only you and blade raming your slanted opinions down our throats. Go take a pill if you can't find a way to get along with other Americans who don't align with your viewpoints.

Seth

As has been previously noted, the crime wave that occurred between January 2009 and January 2017 was protected from proper investigation by the Obama Umbrella of Corruption® in which that worst president in America's history corrupted every agency charged with investigating any crimes occurring within his administration, including those that involved corrupt Joe Biden and Hillary the Walking Crime Wave©

But please, don't allow yourself to become overly concerned about the above; now that President Trump has mostly cleaned up the corruption and sent the corrupt packing, new investigations are underway that are beginning to unearth much of that which was covered up under Obama as well as the conspirators of the first failed coup d'etat.

Stay tuned...

amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle

Actually, Clinton lied to a Grand Jury and was convicted of perjury, resulting in the loss of his law license. A little more serious that a little poontang in the White House.

straightUp Loc: California

Of course you can...

These convictions are public record, so there are lot's of sources. You can google for instance "federal politicians convicted of crime" and get plenty of hits. Personally, I like using Wikipedia because they do a good job of organizing things like this into easy-to-read lists and they include all of their sources in their notes so you don't have to take their word for it.

(The image that you see, is taken from a spreadsheet I used to compile the names from the data I found.)

Also, keep in mind - these are only federal politicians. I didn't have time to dive into the hundreds of convictions at the state and municipal levels.

Seth

I have several; a Marlin 336C, a Mossberg 12 gauge, a Safari Arms Enforcer, a Glock 23 and a Colt Python, had all of them for years, and you know what?

Not a single one of them has ever suddenly leaped up of its own volition and shot anybody.

Maybe I just have them trained right...

straightUp Loc: California

I understand that, which is exactly why I stressed that Nixon and Trump were caught doing things that clearly violated the Constitution BEFORE they were being prosecuted.

Think about it... if Clinton just admitted to the affair, there would have been no grounds on which to impeach him. So, yeah, he made a bonehead move - I'm not defending him there, but as you can see by my list, I am not suggesting the Democrats are perfect people, either... But there *IS* and undeniable pattern of reality that conflicts entirely with the image Republicans have that they stand on the moral high ground. They clearly don't.

son of witless

" Go take a pill if you can't find a way to get along with other Americans who don't align with your viewpoints. "

But I am getting along with you. I am calmly discussing all of your mistakes with you. I am not upset in the least.

" The fact that you are compelled to not find one person on the left with some attributes, speaks volumes of your skewed and unreasonable opinion. "

Okay if these are your rules, I can play by them. Hmmmmm, one person on the Left who has some attributes ? Well it would have to be a pretty far left person, otherwise you will call foul. Now leave me see. What field of endeavor shall I pick. How about a Cop ? Nay, far too right wing. How about a Truck Driver ? Nope, too blue collar.

Wait, wait, I have it. This person actually belongs to two separate Far Left Groups. That should satisfy your very high standards. The two Liberal Groups he belongs to are Lawyers and College Professors. That is some impressive Leftwing pedigree if you ask me.

I choose Alan Dershowicz. It's hard to get more Liberal than that gentleman. Now what good can I say about him ? Oh yes, he thinks the Trump Impeachment is wrong.

" you may not get embarrassed for US but the rest of the sane population does. "

Who are these sane folks you speak of, the ones who screamed hysterically on Election Night 2016 ?

straightUp Loc: California

Do you think they know how they appear to the vast majority of people around the world? These apologists for a so-called president who has demonstrated a degree of callous ignorance and blatant corruption never before even imagined in the White House and then having the audacity to claim the moral high ground?

straightUp Loc: California

I have a Mossberg 12 gauge too... I traded my much heavier Remington for it. Very happy with the trade.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Darn, it is such a chore, trying to bring truth to the right wingers of the republican party..
Much like jousting with windmills and all that entails.. so tiring and repetitious.. tired of the foolishness..

Now that it has warmed to -3 Degrees, i will soon go out and tend my unicorns and herd my cats..

More interesting then forcing the unwilling to face the truth about their idol of orange.. why do they insist on loyalty to the most disloyal to ever hold the oval office???

But in full faith that you all will hate this, I will post some excerpts from the Atlantic a few weeks ago......

Read and contemplate your naval as you ponder the truth, justice and the American way.. which has long gone from the right wing of the Republican party..

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/10/trump-making-swamp-worse/599344/

The last serious effort to “drain the swamp” in Washington, D.C., came after Watergate, when Congress pushed through sweeping reforms inspired by the misdeeds of Richard Nixon’s administration and the backlash its criminal acts produced.

The new ethics rules and laws forbade some lobbying by former members of Congress and their staffers; forced elected officials and some of their family members to disclose their financial interests; limited the franking privilege; imposed limits on individual contributions to candidates for federal office; imposed reporting requirements on campaign spending; introduced public funding into presidential campaigns; and sought to limit how much candidates could spend on their own campaigns (a restriction the Supreme Court later struck down).

What has Donald Trump done in comparison?

Trump’s interest in possible misdeeds extends no further than the specific Democrats he considers his most direct political adversaries, such as Hillary Clinton. For all his theatrics, he is not actually fighting corruption any more than a WWE wrestler is actually fighting his opponent. Put simply, there is no prospect that he will, in fact, drain the swamp.

For three years, he’s taken no step toward lasting change. And matters are only going to get worse, if you’re a Trump fan who actually wants the swamp to be drained.

Think of today’s partisan incentive structure. A president facing an impeachment inquiry is never a champion of measures that make it easier to ferret out official misconduct and hold the guilty accountable.

He will go further, urging foreign governments to investigate the Bidens; indeed, he already has. Meanwhile, the activities of Ivanka, Eric, and Don Jr., plus his own business dealings, will keep him from effecting any sort of broader legal or normative change that would curb efforts to profit from public office. He’ll attack Hunter Biden while bolstering the laws and norms that made him possible.

So pity the Trump supporters who want to drain the swamp. There is no prospect of their civic happiness. Insofar as their champion thrives politically, Washington, D.C., will grow only more corrupt. But if Trump is proved to have abused his power, the backlash may inspire reforms, as it did after Watergate. You can fight to drain the swamp or to defend Trump, but not both.

son of witless

Quite an impressive bit of nonsense.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

he can get the license back any time he wishes, that was done years ago.. do not know if he ever renewed it..

But he was impeached.. just as trump has been impeached.. for a blow job vs a traitors action..

How you love to force misdirection..

4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory

SO answer the question how many illegals coming across would you call for a halt ?

Left proves they want all the illegals to be able come here if they didn't they would fund the wall at the very git go !
Nope we won't lift a finger to stop illegals from coming !

We need everyone of them to be registered to vote for us !