Patty

Here we go again.



Poland and the United States will announce next week the deployment of U.S. ground forces to Poland as part of an expansion of NATO presence in Central and Eastern Europe in response to events in Ukraine. That was the word from Poland’s defense minister, Tomasz Siemoniak, who visited The Post Friday after meeting with Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel at the Pentagon on Thursday.

Siemoniak said the decision has been made on a political level and that military planners are working out details. There will also be intensified cooperation in air defense, special forces, cyberdefense and other areas. Poland will play a leading regional role, “under U.S. patronage,” he said.

But the defense minister also said that any immediate NATO response to Russian aggression in Ukraine, while important, matter less than a long-term shift in the defense postures of Europe and America. The United States, having announced a “pivot” to Asia, needs to “re-pivot” to Europe, he said, and European countries that have cut back on defense spending need to reverse the trends.

“The idea until recently was that there were no more threats in Europe and no need for a U.S. presence in Europe any more,” Siemoniak said, speaking through an interpreter. “Events show that what is needed is a re-pivot, and that Europe was safe and secure because America was in Europe.”

How likely is such a reversal on defense spending? Siemoniak said there was widespread support at a recent meeting of European defense ministers. “Now they’ll go back to their presidents, prime ministers and ministers of finance, and this will stop being easy,” he admitted. “But the impetus is very strong.”

The strongest impetus, he said, is not even Russia’s illegal annexation of Crimea, but President Vladimir Putin’s bald lies about Russian actions there and his exposition of a new doctrine allowing Russia to intervene in any country where Russian-speaking populations are, in Russia’s judgment, under threat. This poses a potential danger to the Baltic nations, which are members of NATO, and even more to Moldova, Belarus and central Asian nations that are not, he said.

Like President Obama, Siemoniak said it’s too soon to judge the agreement reached Thursday in Geneva to defuse tensions. He said he believes that Russia’s “special operation in eastern Ukraine didn’t go as planned” and that Putin may have decided to play a longer game.

bahmer

Obama is out of his league an this one. Putin is one real tough cookie and the Russian mafia is way different than the US mafia. Obama may think he is tough but he is a weenie in comparison to Putin.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

Do not get to far ahead of things here.

The stepping a side & letting Putin have his way is not a high priority with the West.

Putin may think his Aces will win but He don't control the deck.

As I see it he just wants to be asked to the finial table.

The table that lays out the new would order.

If he plays his bluff right he may be asked to set in & have a say. If he over plays he will be left out.

bahmer

Could be you are right.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

Did I miss something? I thought the North Atlantic Treaty was made with some countries in - the North Atlantic. Perhaps the other countries moved or something, or lost their armies. That must be why, once again, we're bearing the brunt of these activities. But then again, what else would we do with the trillion dollar defense budget, not spend it?

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

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Patty

Actually it was the US that wanted to be part of the BRICS and membership was denied. The new currency stems from the IMF and with the debt of the west it will fall.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-16/brics-consider-creating-imf-alternative-us-loses-credibilityBRICS Consider Creating IMF-Alternative As US Loses Credibility
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The BRICS countries (Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa) have made significant progress in setting up structures that would serve as an alternative to the IMF and the World Bank (which are dominated by the U.S. and the EU), according to RBTH. As WSJ reports, the U.S. would lose its veto power on the International Monetary Fund's executive board under a plan being considered by some emerging economies. The countries are fed up with the United States' failure to ratify a four-year-old deal to restructure the emergency lender. Yet more loss of credibility on the global stage and, as Brazil's FinMin Mantega sums up, "the IMF cannot remain paralyzed and postpone its commitments to reform."
Economists warn the IMF's legitimacy is at stake, and they say U.S. standing abroad is being eroded.

"Eroded" indeed...

Armageddun Loc: The show me state

Where is Marvin, all this money talk should bring him out from under his rock.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

for goodness sake's, don't invite him back. It is much pleasanter with his absence.

bahmer

Can we all just be quiet, please. Don't wake the monster.

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

Developing nations vs. America/UK/EU on monetary system can be seen as parallel to the 1830s American political division between the establishment northeast Whigs and the west developing region Jacksonian Dems over the banking and monetary system set up by Hamilton and the Federalists. The particulars of dollar status as reserve currency and IMF vs. alternative banking system favoring developing nations is interesting as potential long term future geopolitical development.

However, future banking and monetary formulations are not nearly as interesting as the larger parallel between Jacksonian plantationists and secession and the immediate danger issue of plantationist fascism in Putin's New Russia and other isolated corners of the world in our current world geopolitical situation...plus the current Russian strategy of "secession" and local vigilantism to destroy the existing status quo.

The money system details can be worked through...the main concern should be the future of freedom and self-government that depends on America and the Free World. We must hope a world war won't be necessary to preserve the Free World against the forces of localized fascisms and vigilantisms.

The 'Patty' persona Putin propaganda postings on OPP provide a fairly definitive picture of the geopolitical arguments from the fascist and secessionist side.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

Jon boy, why do you continue to stalk her?

Patty

jonnie posts things he really knows nothing about but gives him an excuse to follow me around.
He thinks the troops going into Poland are all about political ties to slavery, the confinement of Native Americans, and the celebration of white supremacy in the 1800's.
He is hilarious with his copy /paste attempts to make it look like he is of at least average intelligence.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

He fails in the intelligence department, but excels in the indoctrination department.

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

Why don't you argue the monetary system issue brought up by the Patty post on BRICS and my redefinition of it as alternate monetary system favoring developing nations vs. existing dollar and IMF monetary system favoring developed nations? That's a valid geopolitical issue between America and developing nations.

More important is the question of Russia's use of this monetary system issue as propaganda point for New Russia fascism and its allied fascisms and fascist Russia's use of secessionist and vigilantist movements to destabilize the Free World. Note that when the issue becomes fascism and secessionism, the developing nations do not ally themselves with Russia.

With that redefinition of the issue, could you do something other than an irrelevant Alinskyite deflection response?

Question to the Old Gringo persona, what's your agenda in following the 'Patty' persona around on several threads and joining in the Patty dialog on Putin's side? Are you part of the larger operation? Interesting indeed.