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Dec 22, 2019 13:26:15   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
son of witless wrote:
A new Kevyn makes sense. This one has been addressing and answering me lately whereas olde Kevy always turned tail and ran whenever I counter posted anything to him. I hope New Kevyn turns out to be better than Classic Kevy or New Coke.


I agree. Saw the change. You just don’t go from the most insulting brat on the forum to someone who’s politics we don’t agree with but at least they’re civil.

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Dec 22, 2019 13:30:27   #
Voice of Reason Loc: Earth
 
Kevyn wrote:
Even in your racist fantasy about those on assistance direct assistance creates jobs. Let’s say an able bodied man on welfare just squanders it on booze and dice games. He still walks down to the corner bodega and purchases his 40 ounce bottle of malt liquor and a blunt. The liquor store owner uses that money to pay a kid to sweep the floor, the mortgage on his store or to buy groceries. The guy who wins the craps game can also buy a 40 or get a sandwich or pizza at the diner and that same money is quickly circulating in the community. Corporate welfare has few such benefits as the money is used for stock buy backs or even off-shoring and a much smaller percentage stays in the community. This all ignores the truth, most welfare go’s to working poor white families, and in reality is a subsidy to employers who pay sub standard wages.
Even in your racist fantasy about those on assista... (show quote)


Racist? Why racist? Because you think only minorities commit crimes? That makes you the racist.

The first problem with your silly economic theory is the fact that the money spent at the liquor store came from the store owner. He paid taxes which were given to the welfarer. The welfarer then gave some of it back to the store owner in exchange for a bottle of booze that the store owner had to buy from a distributor. In reality, the store owner would be better off without paying taxes and just giving away the booze to the most worthless in his community, at least then the govt bureaucrats who handle the welfare payments wouldn't get their cut.

Your last sentence displays your ignorance well. Yes, most welfare recipients are white, but not working. Worse, to call it a subsidy to employers 'who pay sub standard wages' is absurd. That implies that if you hire a kid to mow your lawn, you must provide total subsistance to the kid and his/her entire family for life.

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Dec 22, 2019 13:58:59   #
dongreen76
 
Voice of Reason wrote:
If you work for a living and earn a paycheck, what percentage of your pay am I entitled to?

If you are poor,or middle class and your income falls within the financial parameters which designates your salary puts you in a category of the mean or average taxpayer`gimme all O`dat` shit !!!
If you are the government,whom are managers of the goods services each citizen is supposedly Entitled to(whom are representative of "WE THE PEOPLE,") whom provide,such services as your education,your security,your paved roads,your health care so far as making sure the food you consume is not detrimental to your health,if you put an actual value on all the afforementioned services provided and a whole lot that have not been mentioned,Gimme all O` dat`shit,duh whole damned check!!.If you are not the government ,not one damned penny !!!

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Dec 22, 2019 14:02:41   #
Voice of Reason Loc: Earth
 
dongreen76 wrote:
If you are the government,whom are managers of the goods services the government,(whom are representative of "WE THE PEOPLE,") whom provide,such services as your education,your security,your paved roads,your health care so far as making sure the food you consume is not detrimental to your health,if you put an actual value on all the afforementioned services provided and a whole lot that have not been mentioned,Gi`me all O` dat`shit,duh whole damned check!!.If you are not the government ,not one damned penny !!!
If you are the government,whom are managers of the... (show quote)


Have you ever gotten food poisoning? Know anybody else who has? The government failed you and them!

Further, judging by the grammar skills you've just demonstrated, the government schools have failed you too.

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Dec 22, 2019 14:29:46   #
dongreen76
 
Voice of Reason wrote:
Have you ever gotten food poisoning? Know anybody else who has? The government failed you and them!

Further, judging by the grammar skills you've just demonstrated, the government schools have failed you too.


What parts about my grammar didn't you like?, the dat` part,or was it the gimme`or was it the vulgarity -ala,SHIT !.maybe it was the sentence structure- by the way; which type of writers do you prefer?the terse writer ,or the coloquial writer, ?

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Dec 22, 2019 17:51:26   #
maureenthannon
 
carol you can't take AOC's salary! Didn't you know that she hs said that Congresspeople don't get paid enough? She said that the lobbyists pay them more to influence the government than what they get paid as Congress people! If we sn't want the government being run by the highest bidderw, we have to pay the Poiticians more!

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Dec 22, 2019 19:05:55   #
2quick4u Loc: Somewhere in central Tx...
 
Kevyn wrote:
If you are a poor hungry or sick child a tiny amount.

So you are admitting here that you will even demand a poor, hungry, or sick child to cough up something, too..so your elected cronies can finance their entitlement rackets and giveaways..lifetime golden parachute insurance policies and cadillac retirement packages which they created for themselves..legislate themselves raises..enthusiastically waste millions in their ongoing and blatant attempt(s) to destroy a sitting president they openly detest (apparently just b/c he beat their gal fair and square)..and if you do work for the NSA-or any govt institution FTM-the paycheck you receive, too.... You won't even let 'hungry or sick children' off the hook. IMO..you can't get much more disgusting than that.

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Dec 22, 2019 19:37:11   #
zillaorange
 
debeda wrote:
The reason socialism NEVER works is two simple things.
1. The government is entirely incapable of actually producing anything.
2. The money is distributed like a charity. Anyone remember United Way? Millions donated through payroll deduction. Only to have it all blow up because LESS THAN 5 CENTS ON THE DOLLAR WENT TO RECIPIENTS. Only to be even FURTHER reduced by the "administrators" of the recipients. That is a PERFECT example of how government agencies handle money.
The reason socialism NEVER works is two simple thi... (show quote)


You've worked for them ( gov ) as well ? LOL The socialist/ dems don't seem to be able to get that in their heads !

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Dec 22, 2019 20:17:46   #
debeda
 
zillaorange wrote:
You've worked for them ( gov ) as well ? LOL The socialist/ dems don't seem to be able to get that in their heads !



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Dec 23, 2019 03:24:28   #
DogLover99
 
Kevyn wrote:
It depends if you are Amazon, Exon, Koch industries or own a sports franchise quite a bit. If you are a poor hungry or sick child a tiny amount. And if you are a Cheeto faced Shitgibbon who wants to play golf on my dime a bit more. All kidding aside taxes are the reasonable bill patriots willingly pay to live in a free just nation.


I thought your side doesn't believe we do live in a free just nation?

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Dec 23, 2019 05:14:53   #
zillaorange
 
Voice of Reason wrote:
If you work for a living and earn a paycheck, what percentage of your pay am I entitled to?


None !

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Dec 23, 2019 05:19:43   #
zillaorange
 
Voice of Reason wrote:
Does that mean the more tax you pay the more patriotic you are? If paying taxes is patriotic, then sucking up taxes, by being on welfare, must be unpatriotic.

But seriously, I understand that taxes are required to fund necessary government functions. But when the govt takes money at gunpoint from those who work to give to those who won't that is not 'just'. Vote buying is not a necessary or valid function of government.


Why would, ' Voice of Reason', think there's anything ' just ' ?

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Dec 23, 2019 05:24:04   #
zillaorange
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I agree wholeheartedly with that last statement


Howdy Canukus ! Not sure of your jib so, Happy Hanukkah, Merry Christmas, if you're among the secular, it's party time, ENJOY ! Here's hoping you & yours have a Happy & Healthy New Year !

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Dec 23, 2019 05:28:49   #
zillaorange
 
drlarrygino wrote:
I'm still waiting for the so called Hollyweird elites to give up their mega mansions, lamborghini's, designer clothes, spas, nail salons, massage therapists, and toy boys. Leftists like JLo, Babs streisand, Beyonce and Cher could go 1st and set a good example of their charity to the poor and downtrodden.


They shoud learn their place ! They're entertainers, some. They should take their money, go jet setting & stop trying to tell U. S. what's good or bad for U. S. !

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Dec 23, 2019 05:31:02   #
zillaorange
 
JimMe wrote:
And Congressional Incompetence of Dems, GOPs, and Inds alike in overspending trillions of dollars each and every year just so they can continue to be reelected is Deplorable...


Right on JimMe !!! LOL

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