Gee byron, thanks for the concern for my foot.. in truth it was my wonderful dog Cupid, who stomped on it trying to get even closer to me and my coffee cup.. but life goes on, at least for a while yet..

No one has seriously proposed that the senate will remove trump, and I firmly agree with that. to bad, very sad.. but it is what it is..

Yes, all of us shall be judged.... but I would like fair judgment on this earth also, and while I am around to see it..

Have a good day Byron,,

Kindly refute this:
Most deal with Facts... I. Know i do.

The only thing. Keeping him a float ,not indicted until out of office?[ the reason he must get re elected] to avoid prison.
Are the shubs and flowers he's been watering. No new seeds have been planted.
If recent. Events are. Any indication,
The pestident has been found guilty in the court of public opinion without prosecutors, via the world series to name one.
There's no Crying in baseball however everyone witnessed the shape of things to come. Like below:

Soon-to-be-impeached Donald Trump
'We do not reach this conclusion lightly': 500 law professors say Trump's actions are impeachable
Dec 06, 2019 3:09pm Eastern Standard Time.
As voters remain split over whether Donald Trump should be impeached for his efforts to interfere in U.S. elections and the subsequent obstruction of the investigation into that interference by his administration, there is little debate left among law professors from coast to coast about the issue. From Stanford to Texas to the University of Buffalo and everywhere in between, more than 500 law professors have signed their names to an open letter explaining why Donald Trump’s actions are absolutely impeachable.

Citing Trump’s abuse of power and saying that they “did not make this decision lightly,” these constitutional experts call impeachment an “essential remedy for conduct that corrupts elections.”


Read the full letter below.

We, the undersigned legal scholars, have concluded that President Trump engaged in impeachable conduct.

We do not reach this conclusion lightly. The Founders did not make impeachment available for disagreements over policy, even profound ones, nor for extreme distaste for the manner in which the President executes his office. Only “Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors” warrant impeachment. But there is overwhelming evidence that President Trump betrayed his oath of office by seeking to use presidential power to pressure a foreign government to help him distort an American election, for his personal and political benefit, at the direct expense of national security interests as determined by Congress. His conduct is precisely the type of threat to our democracy that the Founders feared when they included the remedy of impeachment in the Constitution.

We take no position on whether the President committed a crime. But conduct need not be criminal to be impeachable. The standard here is constitutional; it does not depend on what Congress has chosen to criminalize.

Impeachment is a remedy for grave abuses of the public trust. The two specific bases for impeachment named in the Constitution — treason and bribery — involve such abuses because they include conduct undertaken not in the “faithful execution” of public office that the Constitution requires, but instead for personal gain (bribery) or to benefit a foreign enemy (treason).

Impeachment is an especially essential remedy for conduct that corrupts elections. The primary check on presidents is political: if a president behaves poorly, voters can punish him or his party at the polls. A president who corrupts the system of elections seeks to place himself beyond the reach of this political check. At the Constitutional Convention, George Mason described impeachable offenses as “attempts to subvert the constitution.” Corrupting elections subverts the process by which the Constitution makes the president democratically accountable. Put simply, if a President cheats in his effort at re-election, trusting the democratic process to serve as a check through that election is no remedy at all. That is what impeachment is for.

Moreover, the Founders were keenly concerned with the possibility of corruption in the president’s relationships with foreign governments. That is why they prohibited the president from accepting anything of value from foreign governments without Congress’s consent. The same concern drove their thinking on impeachment. James Madison noted that Congress must be able to remove the president between elections lest there be no remedy if a president betrayed the public trust in dealings with foreign powers.

In light of these considerations, overwhelming evidence made public to date forces us to conclude that President Trump engaged in impeachable conduct. To mention only a few of those facts: William B. Taylor, who leads the U.S. embassy in Ukraine, testified that President Trump directed the withholding of hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid for Ukraine in its struggle against Russia — aid that Congress determined to be in the U.S. national security interest — until Ukraine announced investigations that would aid the President’s re-election campaign. Ambassador Gordon Sondland testified that the President made a White House visit for the Ukrainian president conditional on public announcement of those investigations. In a phone call with the Ukrainian president, President Trump asked for a “favor” in the form of a foreign government investigation of a U.S. citizen who is his political rival. President Trump and his Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney made public statements confirming this use of governmental power to solicit investigations that would aid the President’s personal political interests. The President made clear that his private attorney, Rudy Giuliani, was central to efforts to spur Ukrainian investigations, and Mr. Giuliani confirmed that his efforts were in service of President Trump’s private interests.

Ultimately, whether to impeach the President and remove him from office depends on judgments that the Constitution leaves to Congress. But if the House of Representatives impeached the President for the conduct described here and the Senate voted to remove him, they would be acting well within their constitutional powers. Whether President Trump’s conduct is classified as bribery, as a high crime or misdemeanor, or as both, it is clearly impeachable under our Constitution.




Want a good laugh?
This is beyond hilarious.

byronsmurfish, you seem to favor absurd .. real humans are, the orange boy King is another matter.

since far out ( and conspiracies) is your preference,remember when we recently had ufos spotted?
good chance they were looking in to see how their escaped Drumpf creatures{ originally got loose in Germany} were doing.
the Drumpf: something that cares only for itself,destroying anything good ( for others) that does not serve their purpose.
and kills or fires anything or anyone that doesn't give it their complete loyalty 🤔
if you think this clown show is good
like the song goes " you ain't seen nothin yet "
welcome to " the apprentice 2.0"
that's heading in the same direction. failure. like many other ventures.
yep a bowl is sounding good about now ... 😎
at least it's honest and we know what we're getting.

how is it a majority booed at the World Series and at the UFC at the gardens? popularity? I think not!

something is going to happen alright since that same feeling is actually coastal and everywhere in between.
consider: milenenials far out number boomers and seniors,so do their parents.
this will be who decides the next president not a misguided ,delusional ,trumpism base ,even with their families it's still out gunned. no hate just facts and figures.
we all know how both lie. 😘
that's preordained

Good alphalfa,real truth never went far with tiny minds anyway since boredom is the best they can come up with,keep believing your conspiracy theories that do not hold water any more than a bucket with holes in it does.
my incoherent is what we on genuine forums call discussion but never you mind;none here have any clue what real forums are all about.
when opp came on scene,one of my better forums was about to close.
I now am down to three.
member on one,
moderater on another,
assistant to administration on the other and members,all closed; ( some of whom had cause to visit opp this past Fourth of July) none were impressed. I won't relay what was said,it will keep until we meet again,for further discussion,if they bring it up,I won't. we have too much fun. off the forums. 🤗

It should be obvious to even the dumbest of trump supporters that pumpkinhead is afraid of letting his 'supporters see his tax returns, you know the ones he promised to release 3 years ago.

And he keeps telling the same old lie that his is constantly under audit from the IRS. Which the IRS says isn't true, but even if it was, pumpkinhead could release his records.

So now he runs to the SC, and if they vote against him, pumpkinhead will be exposed for being the liar that he is, and that he is nowhere as rich as he claims, and that he cannot explain where the money from Russia is still coming from.

But the impeachment will go forward, and pumpkinhead will have to spend 2020 campaigning, and not screwing things up.



https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-trump-records/trump-turns-to-u-s-supreme-court-as-last-chance-to-keep-his-finances-secret-idUSKBN1Y9292

Gee byron, thanks for the concern for my foot.. in truth it was my wonderful dog Cupid, who stomped on it trying to get even closer to me and my coffee cup.. but life goes on, at least for a while yet..

No one has seriously proposed that the senate will remove trump, and I firmly agree with that. to bad, very sad.. but it is what it is..

Yes, all of us shall be judged.... but I would like fair judgment on this earth also, and while I am around to see it..

Have a good day Byron,,

ALL of YOU
DO enjoy YOUR TROLLWAY,it's the best any here can hope for.then again most here know no better.
the only place ever found with more trolls than members. and I've seen dozens of boards.
I feel bad for actual members that go the extra mile to make right was is wrong ... keep trying... [members]( they know who they are)
maybe a little will rub off.
the most problematic thing is probably trolls don't know they're trolls ....
any more than stupid knows stoopid ...

like they say,
when you are dead,
you don't know you're dead,
it only hurts and affects those around you ..
the same holds true for stupid.

by the same token many do not realize ,
some out there only know to be stupid ...
and nobody can or ever will accept them as a part of life that exists.
it is not their fault,it is society that insists on tags and labels.
misunderstood and odd as they are its in the fabric like wine that won't wash out.
have a nice life ..


try not to read more into this than is there,but then .. this is oops,I mean opp,I'll bite my tongue and refrain.. Saspatz007👋🏻👋🏻 ✌🏻️