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Dec 7, 2019 14:36:42   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
waltmoreno wrote:
Trump is doing exactly what any other innocent person would do when false charges are brought against them. Going to court and having the court rule on the legality of the subpoenas.
You wouldn't say that another innocent person legally challenging subpoenas by filing universally recognized motions to quash was blocking justice. The courts, not the party issuing the subpoena, has the final say on the legality, and hence, enforceability of a subpoena.


Well said, anyone, can file false charges against anyone. Up to the courts to decide the merits of the charges and the outcome.

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Dec 7, 2019 14:40:18   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Kevyn wrote:
A brilliant erudite response, exactly what can be expected from brainwashed Trumptarded cult members.


LOL, I know, right?

Of course we both know they have no answer and that's why they resort to insults, or distractions. It's so obvious.

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Dec 7, 2019 14:52:15   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
waltmoreno wrote:
Trump is doing exactly what any other innocent person would do when false charges are brought against them. Going to court and having the court rule on the legality of the subpoenas.

That's not what Hillary did when false charges were brought against her. In fact she made a laughing-stock of each one of those investigations BECAUSE she cooperated. See what happens when you have nothing to hide?

waltmoreno wrote:

You wouldn't say that another innocent person legally challenging subpoenas by filing universally recognized motions to quash was blocking justice.

Yes, I would.

waltmoreno wrote:

The courts, not the party issuing the subpoena, has the final say on the legality, and hence, enforceability of a subpoena.

And so far the courts are saying the subpoenas are legal and enforceable and now Trump is trying to appeal the rulings. Apparently, Trump still has a ways to go before he can stack the courts enough to control that fate without appealing to the highest level.

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Dec 7, 2019 18:36:43   #
PeterS
 
Airforceone wrote:
Trump during the campaign agreed to release his tax returns and at least 30 times he said he release them. But for 3 years now he is fighting it in court with a team of attorneys to block there release.
(WHY AND WHAT IS HE TRYING TO HIDE)

During the Muellar investigation he told the AMERICAN people that he would be happy to go into the FBI and testify under oath with Muellar to clear this whole Russian investigation up. ( NOT ONLY DID TRUMP NOT TESTIFY HE IS BLOCKING THE RELEASE OF THE FULL MUELLAR REPORT.) He had Barr release a 4 page summary of a two year investigation that Trump claims exonerated him of collusion, Obstruction and soliciting foreign interference in our election. But Trump refuses to release the full extent of his investigation.

Then Trump creates a Putin conspiracy that it was the Ukraine that interfered not Russian and Trump bought it. Trump tried to bribe the Ukraine into doing an investigation into the Bidens when there is no evidence that Trump has released except to tweet BS to his idiot base.
Now 8 career officials were willing to testify under oath that Trump was trying to solicit foreign interference. These 8 career officials implicated Giuliani/ Bolton/Mulvaney/ and Pompeo and Trump will not allow any of these men to testify under oath. (WHY THESE MEN COULD EXONERATE TRUMP IF HE IS NOT GUILTY)

So why defy 105 subpoenas why refuse to release phone records why refuse the release of emails sent to these men by these career officials, what is Trump hiding.
Trump during the campaign agreed to release his ta... (show quote)


Because he's guilty of hell and this the only way of staying out of jail!

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Dec 7, 2019 18:55:46   #
elledee
 
Airforceone wrote:
Hate filled I just laid out the whole issue of Trump promises and you call it hate. If facts are hate then your right. Go for a diaper change PR Archie needs fertilizer for his garden.


if facts were oxygen you would suffocate

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Dec 7, 2019 18:59:29   #
son of witless
 
elledee wrote:
if facts were oxygen you would suffocate



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Dec 7, 2019 20:56:21   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
Airforceone wrote:
Trump during the campaign agreed to release his tax returns and at least 30 times he said he release them. But for 3 years now he is fighting it in court with a team of attorneys to block there release.
(WHY AND WHAT IS HE TRYING TO HIDE)

During the Muellar investigation he told the AMERICAN people that he would be happy to go into the FBI and testify under oath with Muellar to clear this whole Russian investigation up. ( NOT ONLY DID TRUMP NOT TESTIFY HE IS BLOCKING THE RELEASE OF THE FULL MUELLAR REPORT.) He had Barr release a 4 page summary of a two year investigation that Trump claims exonerated him of collusion, Obstruction and soliciting foreign interference in our election. But Trump refuses to release the full extent of his investigation.

Then Trump creates a Putin conspiracy that it was the Ukraine that interfered not Russian and Trump bought it. Trump tried to bribe the Ukraine into doing an investigation into the Bidens when there is no evidence that Trump has released except to tweet BS to his idiot base.
Now 8 career officials were willing to testify under oath that Trump was trying to solicit foreign interference. These 8 career officials implicated Giuliani/ Bolton/Mulvaney/ and Pompeo and Trump will not allow any of these men to testify under oath. (WHY THESE MEN COULD EXONERATE TRUMP IF HE IS NOT GUILTY)

So why defy 105 subpoenas why refuse to release phone records why refuse the release of emails sent to these men by these career officials, what is Trump hiding.
Trump during the campaign agreed to release his ta... (show quote)


where did u get all this garbage because all of that is made up sorry but it dont float

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Dec 8, 2019 02:11:39   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Airforceone wrote:
Wow wait a minute those 8 people that testified are they all lying under oath in Congress. The hearing is based on getting the truth. Where is Trumps boys that can go In raise there right hand testify under oath and dispute the evidence it’s a simple process if Trump was innocent and he had evidence he was innocent he would be running to testify he would want everybody in his administration To testify. He would be releasing the voice recording of his phone calls, but nothing he just refuses to cooperate and obstruct the investigation. Can you imagine if Obama had done what Trump is doing.
Wow wait a minute those 8 people that testified ar... (show quote)


You're as dumb as the innocent citizen who talks to the police without counsel when accused of a crime. Anything you say can be used against you. and everything you say WILL be used against you to drum up other charges, no matter how unrelated they are. Mueller investigation is a case in point. His fishing expedition resulted in removing a few bad seeds from the Trump camp. But guilt by association is a fallacy.

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Dec 8, 2019 07:18:01   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
straightUp wrote:
And so far the courts are saying the subpoenas are legal and enforceable and now Trump is trying to appeal the rulings. Apparently, Trump still has a ways to go before he can stack the courts enough to control that fate without appealing to the highest level.


yea she cooperated by mashing her phones and trying to destroy thousands of emails

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Dec 8, 2019 07:28:49   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
straightUp wrote:
Because, the prosecutors STILL need to prove his guilt. So, if he is NOT guilty the best thing he can do is cooperate the same way Hillary did when she was being accused of made-up crimes. Hillary made a laughing stock of all those investigations simply by cooperating.

The fact is, when Trump refuses to cooperate he may as well be pleading guilty and the prosecution knows this.

So you can make up whatever excuses you want... it doesn't change the fact that if you have nothing to hide, there's no reason not to cooperate.
Because, the prosecutors STILL need to prove his g... (show quote)


Besides complaining what has he refused to do.If you are talking about everyone refusing to testify they already had given statements and they have lawyers in the Whitehouse who recommended they refuse till they made it official and when they made it an official impeachment investigation and they received a subpoena they went with no problem.Trump isnt behind every post and corner you know

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Dec 8, 2019 08:41:46   #
promilitary
 
Airforceone wrote:
Trump during the campaign agreed to release his tax returns and at least 30 times he said he release them. But for 3 years now he is fighting it in court with a team of attorneys to block there release.
(WHY AND WHAT IS HE TRYING TO HIDE)

During the Muellar investigation he told the AMERICAN people that he would be happy to go into the FBI and testify under oath with Muellar to clear this whole Russian investigation up. ( NOT ONLY DID TRUMP NOT TESTIFY HE IS BLOCKING THE RELEASE OF THE FULL MUELLAR REPORT.) He had Barr release a 4 page summary of a two year investigation that Trump claims exonerated him of collusion, Obstruction and soliciting foreign interference in our election. But Trump refuses to release the full extent of his investigation.

Then Trump creates a Putin conspiracy that it was the Ukraine that interfered not Russian and Trump bought it. Trump tried to bribe the Ukraine into doing an investigation into the Bidens when there is no evidence that Trump has released except to tweet BS to his idiot base.
Now 8 career officials were willing to testify under oath that Trump was trying to solicit foreign interference. These 8 career officials implicated Giuliani/ Bolton/Mulvaney/ and Pompeo and Trump will not allow any of these men to testify under oath. (WHY THESE MEN COULD EXONERATE TRUMP IF HE IS NOT GUILTY)

So why defy 105 subpoenas why refuse to release phone records why refuse the release of emails sent to these men by these career officials, what is Trump hiding.
Trump during the campaign agreed to release his ta... (show quote)



Big question is, why do you care about his tax returns?

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Dec 8, 2019 08:42:50   #
promilitary
 
Kevyn wrote:
The answer is obvious to any thinking person, he is a crook and a liar and doesn’t want to be removed from office and put in prison which is exactly what transparency would do.


Dream on, Kev. He's not worrying about being removed from office and all the
dems are doing is getting him there for a second term.

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Dec 8, 2019 10:18:03   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
straightUp wrote:
Because, the prosecutors STILL need to prove his guilt. So, if he is NOT guilty the best thing he can do is cooperate the same way Hillary did when she was being accused of made-up crimes. Hillary made a laughing stock of all those investigations simply by cooperating.

The fact is, when Trump refuses to cooperate he may as well be pleading guilty and the prosecution knows this.

So you can make up whatever excuses you want... it doesn't change the fact that if you have nothing to hide, there's no reason not to cooperate.
Because, the prosecutors STILL need to prove his g... (show quote)


Like Hillary did? What a laugh. Hillary removed emails that had been subpoenaed ow that is a crime by any definition of the law. But the Justice Dept. and the FBI refused to bring charges and that should have been criminal in its self. The reason to not cooperate is simply Trump and his lawyers would have been hampered in interviewing the witness's of the prosecution and having their own witness's testify on behalf of the President just like the Schiff impeachment inquiry was conducted. I guess the blind and baseless accusations from the Dems falls short of an impeachment offence. When reading the transcript of the phone call it seems the Dems put their own spin on the words actually used and used me for we and my country, for our country and Trumps benefit instead for the benefit of the country. Just the usual spin they always seem to put other words in the mouths of the Republicans and their conservative supporters. Why should anyone want to cooperate with such an illegal type of court which is just another kangaroo court.

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Dec 9, 2019 00:57:22   #
BigJim
 
You lie. The DOJ is not legally allowed to release grand jury testimony. Not blocked by TRUMP.

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