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Dec 7, 2019 10:58:46   #
dongreen76
 
PeterS wrote:
Can you say: Merry Christmas!!!

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2019/12/trump-administration-ends-food-stamps-for-700000-unemployed-americans/?fbclid=IwAR31P-OuyNp_M8FzLHXm8qVxQcKy4KCeXSzYu7KEH2WLvcVgrH6iy1Gubg4

In yet another act of gratuitous cruelty, the Trump administration has issued new rules that will take food stamps away from nearly 700,000 unemployed Americans.

The Trump administration announced a plan Wednesday to end food-stamp benefits for about 700,000 Americans, issuing a new regulation that makes it harder for states to gain waivers from a requirement that beneficiaries work or participate in a vocational training program.

Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue explained the deplorable action to reporters, declaring:

We’re taking action to reform our SNAP program in order to restore the dignity of work to a sizable segment of our population and be respectful of the taxpayers who fund the program. Americans are generous people who believe it is their responsibility to help their fellow citizens when they encounter a difficult stretch. That’s the commitment behind SNAP, but, like other welfare programs, it was never intended to be a way of life.

Because nothing restores “the dignity of work” like going hungry.

The move is despicable, but not surprising. Republicans have always wanted to cut food stamps for the poor and unemployed. Last year House Republicans tried to impose similar restrictions but were stopped by Democrats in the Senate.

Senator Debbie Stabenow, a Democrat from Michigan, and the ranking member of the Senate Committee on Agriculture, Nutrition and Forestry, railed against the new rule, declaring:

This Administration is out of touch with families who are struggling to make ends meet by working seasonal jobs or part-time jobs with unreliable hours. Seasonal holiday workers, workers in Northern Michigan’s tourism industry, and workers with unreliable hours like waiters and waitresses are the kinds of workers hurt by this proposal.
Can you say: Merry Christmas!!! br br https://www... (show quote)


Well ,you see it ,goes like this.This is the quintessential judgemental behavior of a much more fortunate white man (not superior,but more fortunate) He historically takes the low road in his assessment and evaluation of their character as opposed to the higher road.
He arrives at certain conclusions about them using processes of stereotyping;If you've seen one, you've seen them all.However,he does not apply the same processes in the gaugement of self-that is to say,if you saw a white man walking down the street...one should immediately get in touch with their teenage sons to make sure they are safe,it being that,that white man could be a John Wayne Gacy,or Jeffery Dahmer.
To further elaborate ,and link the scenario alluded to above to this act of humongus cruelty -and justifying it by assuming and saying those whom will fall victim to it , are being lazy and don't want to work and are supplementing foods stamp for the pay of employ (a Reaganist mind set,I might add.) Just imagine,they are meeting all their survival expenditures with so much as a hundred and fifty dollars worth of food stamps.SHIT!! !! ,I didn't know landlords except snap for rent,nor phone companies,or ComEd,nor did I know clothiers take food stamps in exchange for clothes,evidently they do,otherwise, how else could their expenditures be met since their source of income is food stamps in lieu of a check of employ.Neither did I know that as little as 150$ worth snap could be extended to cover expenditures of possibly 2000$ a month.,must be ,otherwise why would a body choose to not work and milk the government of a 150$ to pay a debt of possibly 2000$.Any hoooooowwww,Trump took care of that,their lazy asses are going to work now,they don't want to incurr the ravages
of mal-nutrition , and Starve!! to death.
Gooooooo ! "THE DONALD" !!??

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Dec 7, 2019 12:58:14   #
Lonewolf
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
No reason for them to be unemployed. No reason for working people to support them. They get more on welfare than they do working. A job they’re qualified for ,
long them free to complain and protest.


have you ever lived in the thousands of cities that Walmart is the big employer which automatically makes you eligible for food stamps ? If we needed money to bomb some other country money would not be a problem!
and most people on food stamps already work, funny how republicans can give to the rich and withhold bread from the Americans that need it!

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Dec 7, 2019 19:22:40   #
vernon
 
Lonewolf wrote:
have you ever lived in the thousands of cities that Walmart is the big employer which automatically makes you eligible for food stamps ? If we needed money to bomb some other country money would not be a problem!
and most people on food stamps already work, funny how republicans can give to the rich and withhold bread from the Americans that need it!


Bull shit cry cry cry.If you would have stayed in school and learned how to spell you would have learned how to take care of your self.
I,m sick and tired of all this crying and blaming other people for your problems.

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Dec 7, 2019 23:24:16   #
dongreen76
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Yep


I was a single parent kid, raised by a mother,She had two years of college and generally worked for the great mail-order businesses such as Montgermery Wards, Spiegel and Aldens.Her employment was off and on depending on how any of the three retailers were fareing due to the economy.This was the fifties on through the early seventies.Regardless of whether she was working or not as a file clerk, with pay scales at a buck sixty five an hour as a minimum and reaching the maximum glorious plateau of 3.60 an hour ,maybe four bucks at the end of this illustrious career.At this time the entitlement known as Food Stamps emerged, more or less due to Lyndon Baines Johnson concepts and visions of "A Great Society"- programs 'whose agendas was to launch a war to rid the country of poverty.As I pretty much understood and heard that it had a certain amount of success.I do remember many days of hunger and even having to attend school,both elementary and high school on empty stomach.I do remember us having partook of the food stamp entitlement and still incurring many days of hunger,even during the periods of `ole`Moms employ.There was also a friend creditor,(whom was white and also had a family to feed ) sales person who mom had an account with so that she could purchase sorely needed clothes and furniture affordably.This same sales person use to purchase our foods stamps from `ole`mom so that he could capitalize on the fact that you could get more food than the food stamps were at their literal face value- i.e. 200 worth of food stamps at it's literal face value,you get 250$ worth of food.The government made up the difference.The moral and point of this story is that ,1: the cost of living and the poor man's monetary intakes is never at a fair and porpotional distribution so that he can never meet his expenditures efficiently as they should be met.2.Even those you think that are the highest echlons of your citizentry use and have to take advantage of government subsidies such as food stamp programs to make ends meet,Why ? because you can shoot some one and steal,uh ruh... I mean still get their votes, and you keep maintaining a climate conducive to only businesses growth and expansion,not the common man's growth and expansion.

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Dec 8, 2019 07:42:08   #
son of witless
 
Lonewolf wrote:
have you ever lived in the thousands of cities that Walmart is the big employer which automatically makes you eligible for food stamps ? If we needed money to bomb some other country money would not be a problem!
and most people on food stamps already work, funny how republicans can give to the rich and withhold bread from the Americans that need it!


Walmart should not be the " big employer " anywhere . Only retired people and students should work there. It is not meant to be for heads of households, but it was under your Dear Leader Obama.

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Dec 8, 2019 15:00:09   #
Auntie Lulu
 
[quote=PeterS]Can you say: Merry Christmas!!!

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2019/12/trump-administration-ends-food-stamps-for-700000-unemployed-americans/?fbclid=IwAR31P-OuyNp_M8FzLHXm8qVxQcKy4KCeXSzYu7KEH2WLvcVgrH6iy1Gubg4

In yet another act of gratuitous cruelty, the Trump administration has issued new rules that will take food stamps away from nearly 700,000 unemployed Americans.

The Trump administration announced a plan Wednesday to end food-stamp benefits for about 700,000 Americans, issuing a new regulation that makes it harder for states to gain waivers from a requirement that beneficiaries work or participate in a vocational training program.

Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue explained the deplorable action to reporters, declaring:

We’re taking action to reform our SNAP program in order to restore the dignity of work to a sizable segment of our population and be respectful of the taxpayers who fund the program. Americans are generous people who believe it is their responsibility to help their fellow citizens when they encounter a difficult stretch. That’s the commitment behind SNAP, but, like other welfare programs, it was never intended to be a way of life.

Because nothing restores “the dignity of work” like going hungry.

The move is despicable, but not surprising. Republicans have always wanted to cut food stamps for the poor and unemployed. Last year House Republicans tried to impose similar restrictions but were stopped by Democrats in the Senate.

Senator Debbie Stabenow, a Democrat from Michigan, and the ranking member of the Senate Committee on Agriculture, Nutrition and Forestry, railed against the new rule, declaring:

This Administration is out of touch with families who are struggling to make ends meet by working seasonal jobs or part-time jobs with unreliable hours. Seasonal holiday workers, workers in Northern Michigan’s tourism industry, and workers with unreliable hours like waiters and waitresses are the kinds of workers hurt by this proposal.


Unfortunately, here in my neck of the woods, the un-employed are almost 100% drug and alcohol abusers. Why should those who get up everyday of the world to trudge off to work have to carry the burden of feeding those who don't want to work, but would rather spend their days in a drug or alcohol induced haze?

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Dec 8, 2019 15:08:31   #
Highlander66 Loc: Illinois
 
I work at the unemployment office here in Illinois. My current job description is to find work for people who are recently separated or unemployed. I call people all day and tell them about jobs that they are qualified for and if I get 5 percent that actually apply we are pretty happy. Maybe one percent get hired. The rest just don’t bother applying and the ones that do apply either can’t pass a drug test or can’t or won’t show up to work. I constantly hear about how they just want to work, how they hate sitting around home but when I look at the job history and they’ve had 5 jobs in a year and have quit two and been fired from the others I get a little cynical. Personally, I think at least in my area if single people get kicked off food stamps then they will just go get a job.

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Dec 8, 2019 15:53:08   #
sailor bob
 
jUST ANOTHER BIG LIE BY A DEMOCRUD!!!!

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Dec 8, 2019 21:05:09   #
Abel
 
PeterS wrote:
Can you say: Merry Christmas!!!

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2019/12/trump-administration-ends-food-stamps-for-700000-unemployed-americans/?fbclid=IwAR31P-OuyNp_M8FzLHXm8qVxQcKy4KCeXSzYu7KEH2WLvcVgrH6iy1Gubg4

In yet another act of gratuitous cruelty, the Trump administration has issued new rules that will take food stamps away from nearly 700,000 unemployed Americans.

The Trump administration announced a plan Wednesday to end food-stamp benefits for about 700,000 Americans, issuing a new regulation that makes it harder for states to gain waivers from a requirement that beneficiaries work or participate in a vocational training program.

Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue explained the deplorable action to reporters, declaring:

We’re taking action to reform our SNAP program in order to restore the dignity of work to a sizable segment of our population and be respectful of the taxpayers who fund the program. Americans are generous people who believe it is their responsibility to help their fellow citizens when they encounter a difficult stretch. That’s the commitment behind SNAP, but, like other welfare programs, it was never intended to be a way of life.

Because nothing restores “the dignity of work” like going hungry.

The move is despicable, but not surprising. Republicans have always wanted to cut food stamps for the poor and unemployed. Last year House Republicans tried to impose similar restrictions but were stopped by Democrats in the Senate.

Senator Debbie Stabenow, a Democrat from Michigan, and the ranking member of the Senate Committee on Agriculture, Nutrition and Forestry, railed against the new rule, declaring:

This Administration is out of touch with families who are struggling to make ends meet by working seasonal jobs or part-time jobs with unreliable hours. Seasonal holiday workers, workers in Northern Michigan’s tourism industry, and workers with unreliable hours like waiters and waitresses are the kinds of workers hurt by this proposal.
Can you say: Merry Christmas!!! br br https://www... (show quote)


Yes, I can say "Merry Christmas" and I'm not even a Christian. I can do so because I've still got something called "tolerance" left in me.

IMHO: President Trump is only trying to clean up the mess the Progressives have piled upon this country. 700,000 people losing benefits likely doesn't cover the number of people abusing the welfare system. Those who actually need welfare can come in and prove it without undue stress, but those who abuse may have a bit of a problem, at least I hope so.

There are many jobs to be done around this country that the unemployed people can do for government wages. Not all government jobs pay huge salaries, only those at the top get outrageous salaries. Throughout my working life, I worked as many as three jobs at a time to support my wife and family, and have also been unemployed a couple of times, so I know what it means.

I remember a program called Works Progress Administration (WPA) from long ago that could be reinstated to pay those people who CHOOSE to be on welfare rather than work for a living (those who vote for a living) and we could get some of our countries infrastructure repaired. College isn't for everyone because if everyone has a degree there is no one left to do the grunt work! Those who have a degree don't want a JOB, they want a POSITION!

But first, President Trump has to do a better job of Draining (cleaning) the DC Swamp, and get the Obama/Bush/Clinton holdovers out of their plush seats and put some people who are concerned about where this country is going into their vacated seats. Our "welfare system" is terribly abused, and that is what President Trump is beginning to change. There will be pain caused because tough measures will be required, but those in the last depression got through it and so will we. Whining about it won't get the job done. And, no, I'm not a Republican.

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Dec 8, 2019 21:32:18   #
Louis
 
TommyRadd wrote:
Take the time to listen to this black man explain, among many other things, why leftist hand-out policies are actually detrimental rather than empowering.

https://youtu.be/W6T_qoVoU5U

Maybe someone who has "been through it" has a little better perspective.

This is why there is a "BLEXIT" (Black exit from the Democrat Party) movement.

Ignore it and deny it all you want.




It was during the Clinton administration that they went from welfare to workfare, and that seemed to work out pretty darn good. That was actually one of the reasons, albeit a small one, why the unemployment rate was low during his administration. It was a Republican Congress (Newt Gingrich) that pushed it, although Clinton was happy to take all the credit because of the success of the program.

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Dec 9, 2019 01:00:36   #
EconomistDon
 
dongreen76 wrote:
Well ,you see it ,goes like this.This is the quintessential judgemental behavior of a much more fortunate white man (not superior,but more fortunate) He historically takes the low road in his assessment and evaluation of their character as opposed to the higher road.
He arrives at certain conclusions about them using processes of stereotyping;If you've seen one, you've seen them all.However,he does not apply the same processes in the gaugement of self-that is to say,if you saw a white man walking down the street...one should immediately get in touch with their teenage sons to make sure they are safe,it being that,that white man could be a John Wayne Gacy,or Jeffery Dahmer.
To further elaborate ,and link the scenario alluded to above to this act of humongus cruelty -and justifying it by assuming and saying those whom will fall victim to it , are being lazy and don't want to work and are supplementing foods stamp for the pay of employ (a Reaganist mind set,I might add.) Just imagine,they are meeting all their survival expenditures with so much as a hundred and fifty dollars worth of food stamps.SHIT!! !! ,I didn't know landlords except snap for rent,nor phone companies,or ComEd,nor did I know clothiers take food stamps in exchange for clothes,evidently they do,otherwise, how else could their expenditures be met since their source of income is food stamps in lieu of a check of employ.Neither did I know that as little as 150$ worth snap could be extended to cover expenditures of possibly 2000$ a month.,must be ,otherwise why would a body choose to not work and milk the government of a 150$ to pay a debt of possibly 2000$.Any hoooooowwww,Trump took care of that,their lazy asses are going to work now,they don't want to incurr the ravages
of mal-nutrition , and Starve!! to death.
Gooooooo ! "THE DONALD" !!??
Well ,you see it ,goes like this.This is the quint... (show quote)


Give it up racist Don. The new rules have NOTHING to do with race. They have everything to do with ability to work. A person with no family responsibilities and no work disabilities has a limit of two years on public assistance. With unemployment in "labor shortage" levels, that person can easily find a job. They have two years to find a job, and should be able to find one in a few days. If they are not able to find a job to their liking, they can get help with job training. There is NO reason to expect support from Uncle Sugar beyond two years. Get their asses off the sofa and get to work. Stop making excuses for the lazy and stop injecting your racism, Don.

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