American Vet

Seems you are afraid to answer the question: Do you believe a person has to prove their innocence, or does the prosecutor have to prove their guilt?

American Vet

Tax Fraud? Don't you think the IRS would have found that?

American Vet

Hmmm:
** How is social security not protected? What would you do to 'protect it more'?
** Labor laws are in place for people who want to join a union. In fact, the current laws in many places favor unions over employers.
** People seeking asylum can do so - there is a process in place.
** Extend minimum wage - a very controversial subject.
"A recent study by the Congressional Budget Office, entitled “The Effects on Employment and Family Income of Increasing the Federal Minimum Wage,” was conducted to determine how increasing the federal minimum wage from $7.25 to $10, $12 or $15 per hour by 2025 would affect employment and family income. The conclusion was that increasing the federal minimum wage would have two major impacts on low-wage workers: earnings would increase for many, which would lift some families out of poverty. However, other low-wage workers would become jobless, their family income would drop and it could place them below the poverty threshold." https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2019/07/10/the-unintended-consequences-of-the-15-minimum-wage/#262f19c6e4a7
** Unemployment benefit increases: Pretty good system in place. Actually that's not true - we have a whole class of professionally unemployed who do not want to work.
** Low income families are already getting federal assistance.
** Men and women are paid the same amount for the same job: That's the law. If it is not happening, the employer can be prosecuted.

So: "what the hell happened"? Nothing. Except loony lefties want even more of my tax dollars to fund hair-brained socialist schemes....

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Russia! Russia! Russia!
Got old!

"Do you think he's hiding his inflated self-worth?" - useful mattoid 45

You think so?
So what!

tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO

Kindly refute this:
Most deal with Facts... I. Know i do.

The only thing. Keeping him a float ,not indicted until out of office?[ the reason he must get re elected] to avoid prison.
Are the shubs and flowers he's been watering. No new seeds have been planted.
If recent. Events are. Any indication,
The pestident has been found guilty in the court of public opinion without prosecutors, via the world series to name one.
There's no Crying in baseball however everyone witnessed the shape of things to come. Like below:

Soon-to-be-impeached Donald Trump
'We do not reach this conclusion lightly': 500 law professors say Trump's actions are impeachable
Dec 06, 2019 3:09pm Eastern Standard Time.
As voters remain split over whether Donald Trump should be impeached for his efforts to interfere in U.S. elections and the subsequent obstruction of the investigation into that interference by his administration, there is little debate left among law professors from coast to coast about the issue. From Stanford to Texas to the University of Buffalo and everywhere in between, more than 500 law professors have signed their names to an open letter explaining why Donald Trump’s actions are absolutely impeachable.

Citing Trump’s abuse of power and saying that they “did not make this decision lightly,” these constitutional experts call impeachment an “essential remedy for conduct that corrupts elections.”


Read the full letter below.

We, the undersigned legal scholars, have concluded that President Trump engaged in impeachable conduct.

We do not reach this conclusion lightly. The Founders did not make impeachment available for disagreements over policy, even profound ones, nor for extreme distaste for the manner in which the President executes his office. Only “Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors” warrant impeachment. But there is overwhelming evidence that President Trump betrayed his oath of office by seeking to use presidential power to pressure a foreign government to help him distort an American election, for his personal and political benefit, at the direct expense of national security interests as determined by Congress. His conduct is precisely the type of threat to our democracy that the Founders feared when they included the remedy of impeachment in the Constitution.

We take no position on whether the President committed a crime. But conduct need not be criminal to be impeachable. The standard here is constitutional; it does not depend on what Congress has chosen to criminalize.

Impeachment is a remedy for grave abuses of the public trust. The two specific bases for impeachment named in the Constitution — treason and bribery — involve such abuses because they include conduct undertaken not in the “faithful execution” of public office that the Constitution requires, but instead for personal gain (bribery) or to benefit a foreign enemy (treason).

Impeachment is an especially essential remedy for conduct that corrupts elections. The primary check on presidents is political: if a president behaves poorly, voters can punish him or his party at the polls. A president who corrupts the system of elections seeks to place himself beyond the reach of this political check. At the Constitutional Convention, George Mason described impeachable offenses as “attempts to subvert the constitution.” Corrupting elections subverts the process by which the Constitution makes the president democratically accountable. Put simply, if a President cheats in his effort at re-election, trusting the democratic process to serve as a check through that election is no remedy at all. That is what impeachment is for.

Moreover, the Founders were keenly concerned with the possibility of corruption in the president’s relationships with foreign governments. That is why they prohibited the president from accepting anything of value from foreign governments without Congress’s consent. The same concern drove their thinking on impeachment. James Madison noted that Congress must be able to remove the president between elections lest there be no remedy if a president betrayed the public trust in dealings with foreign powers.

In light of these considerations, overwhelming evidence made public to date forces us to conclude that President Trump engaged in impeachable conduct. To mention only a few of those facts: William B. Taylor, who leads the U.S. embassy in Ukraine, testified that President Trump directed the withholding of hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid for Ukraine in its struggle against Russia — aid that Congress determined to be in the U.S. national security interest — until Ukraine announced investigations that would aid the President’s re-election campaign. Ambassador Gordon Sondland testified that the President made a White House visit for the Ukrainian president conditional on public announcement of those investigations. In a phone call with the Ukrainian president, President Trump asked for a “favor” in the form of a foreign government investigation of a U.S. citizen who is his political rival. President Trump and his Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney made public statements confirming this use of governmental power to solicit investigations that would aid the President’s personal political interests. The President made clear that his private attorney, Rudy Giuliani, was central to efforts to spur Ukrainian investigations, and Mr. Giuliani confirmed that his efforts were in service of President Trump’s private interests.

Ultimately, whether to impeach the President and remove him from office depends on judgments that the Constitution leaves to Congress. But if the House of Representatives impeached the President for the conduct described here and the Senate voted to remove him, they would be acting well within their constitutional powers. Whether President Trump’s conduct is classified as bribery, as a high crime or misdemeanor, or as both, it is clearly impeachable under our Constitution.




Want a good laugh?
This is beyond hilarious.

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

After all of the leftist diversions to hide their own criminality.

The President will be reelected.

Put that in your next bowl and smoke it.😂

Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ

That is what the progressives are good at, ignoring the facts right before their eyes, because they simply close them to keep the truth hidden from themselves.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

"That is what the progressives are good at, ignoring the facts right before their eyes, because they simply close them to keep the truth hidden from themselves."

Liberals have to.
Facing reality, is not an option they can stomach.

tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO

Lol there's far better things to put in a bowl.
Keep hoping.
Meantime
Use goggle( that's all you have besides conspiracy theories)to show any of what is posted false ... no matter how or who came by it.my sources are solid, not withstanding those in real life, I need to prove as much as you need to prove you have a toothache or had a birthday.
Get over yourself serf

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Looking to Google will permit you to believe lies too.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

[quote=American Vet]


You seem rather confused about what is happening..

We have had investigation, hearing and not any kind of trial..

We will move to that equivalent, probably before Christmas..

Who did trump block, ( this is going to the courts I believe) but the investigation proceeded without the testimony from a number of people.

Who was blocked, Sondland, who took it upon himself to testify in spite of trumps orders.. also, Eisonberg, Ellis, Blair, Mulvany, McCormack, for a short list.. More people who trump is afraid to have testify. search the legitimate news for more names if you wish..


THings are moveing along so your worry is only going to become stronger..

But I am amazed that you people seem surprised..

You knew what trump was when you elected him, he told you, bragged about his scummy life and gutter style upbringing and that was what you liked..

Why would you ever think Congress would not do as the constitution demand and take the steps needed to save our nation from a man who admitted to the very crimes mentioned by the founders..

Silly bunch of toadies is what you all are..

Support a criminal, you should also be guilty and pay a price for your crimes..

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

I feel sorry for who stepped on your bad foot today.😬

Perm...We all do pay for our crimes (sins). People who despise the notion that the real judge isn't a human, will also be hating the overall outcome of the "trial side" of the Schitt/Raddler Show.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Gee byron, thanks for the concern for my foot.. in truth it was my wonderful dog Cupid, who stomped on it trying to get even closer to me and my coffee cup.. but life goes on, at least for a while yet..

No one has seriously proposed that the senate will remove trump, and I firmly agree with that. to bad, very sad.. but it is what it is..

Yes, all of us shall be judged.... but I would like fair judgment on this earth also, and while I am around to see it..

Have a good day Byron,,

I am already looking forward to this sort of weather..

tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO

byronsmurfish, you seem to favor absurd .. real humans are, the orange boy King is another matter.

since far out ( and conspiracies) is your preference,remember when we recently had ufos spotted?
good chance they were looking in to see how their escaped Drumpf creatures{ originally got loose in Germany} were doing.
the Drumpf: something that cares only for itself,destroying anything good ( for others) that does not serve their purpose.
and kills or fires anything or anyone that doesn't give it their complete loyalty 🤔
if you think this clown show is good
like the song goes " you ain't seen nothin yet "
welcome to " the apprentice 2.0"
that's heading in the same direction. failure. like many other ventures.
yep a bowl is sounding good about now ... 😎
at least it's honest and we know what we're getting.

Tug484

The majority don't want him impeached no matter what his haters think.
It's not going to happen.
It's preordained.