Rose42

Yes its fear. And its an irrational fear. Many have been brought to near hysteria



Your point was specious.



Wrong again. And why would I acknowledge something that isn’t true? Just because you are told they have no utility or your misinformed opinion thinks they don’t doesn’t mean they have none for others.



Thats because your thinking is constrained.



That was lame. And only someone well trained and willing should be armed. Someone who is trained, armed and is there can make a huge difference.

These weappns are not military grade they are civilian weapons. They use magazines not clips.



You really are uninformed and not just about the weapons. Perhaps you are speaking of the desk jockey vets or those who were never in combat. Lol



No they don’t. You are uninformed in this case too. You know what you read about the police. Or the talking points put out by the anti gun lobbies.

I’m not for militarizing the police but I have no problem with people who know what they’re doing being hired for security.

As for protecting children its hard to take that seriously when they face far more serious threats than shooters in schools. Far more and not nearly as much effort is put into those.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Arabs are white

Like most Jews...

Just saying...

I deplore being called a racist...

It's demeaning and almost never correctly used..

Language is only shifty when interpreted by shifty little progs... Anyone with the ability to use a dictionary should be able to understand the terms they toss around... Anything less is senseless babble that should regulate the usr r to the corner while adults converse....

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

"Language is only shifty when interpreted by shifty little progs... Anyone with the ability to use a dictionary should be able to understand the terms they toss around... Anything less is senseless babble that should regulate the user to the corner while adults converse...." - Canuckus Deploracus

Well put.
An MO of the Left is to bastardize language.
George Orwell in his '1984' got into that MO.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Although I strive to avoid the fallacy of generalization, I tend to agree with you here Eagle...

Progressives have been attempting to redefine the language for so long that it has begun to lose all meaning to the younger generation...

Words take on the definitions the individual assigns to them, rather than the true definitions that are intrinsic to their very nature...

I must admit to spending an inordinate amount of time explaining the meaning of terms to individuals my age and younger.

All this in the age of smart phones and dictionary apps...

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Yep!
The general public are treated like cattle by the PTB, and they generally act the part.
The dumbing down has been very successful.

straightUp Loc: California

Ya know, it gets to a point where it becomes superficial. The very concept of race is arbitrary. Which is why in my school days were taught there are Caucasians, Negros and Mongols and now on the EEO forms I have to list myself as Non-Hispanic White.

I think linguistic groups tend to be the most factual of catalogs because archeologists can trace the origins of culture on the basis of language but that doesn't seem to carry over to common conversations. For instance the original Jews (not the white Jews) are Semites, a linguistic group that spans Africa and Arabia and actually includes Arabs. So when someone offends a white Jew and then gets called anti-Semitic, that's actually an erroneous call, because white Jews are not Semitic. And people are way off base when they refer to sympathy for the Palestinians as anti-Semitic because unlike the Jews, ALL Arabs ARE Semitic, including those in the Levant.

Even here on this site I see liberals being called "racist" for opposing Republicans.

So, I dunno bro... Much ado about nothing.


Yeah, I'm not really all that hung up about it because I judge people on what they do not what they are, so when someone calls me a racist (which rarely ever happens) I know it's BS. So why fret over "correct use" of a BS accusation?

BTW, I hope you didn't get the impression that I'm calling you a racist. When I mentioned the term it was in response to archie bunkers joke about not letting Mexicans drive. It had nothing to do with him personally or you at all.


No, language is shifty by nature. Words change meaning over time, many of them such as anti-semitic are used erroneously more often than not and lots of words like "racism" are ambiguous. English in particular is a living language, which means the dictionary is always open to new terms and meanings.

At some point, I think it makes more sense for people to try and understand what people mean rather than getting all persnickety about the correct use of ambiguous terms.


Webster's definition seems to put you in that second "senseless babble" category bro...

race noun

1 : a breeding stock of animals

2a : a family, tribe, people, or nation belonging to the same stock
b : a class or kind of people unified by shared interests, habits, or characteristics

3a : an actually or potentially interbreeding group within a species also : a taxonomic category (such as a subspecies) representing such
b : BREED
c : a category of humankind that shares certain distinctive physical traits

...just saying.

Rose42

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

"I think linguistic groups tend to be the most factual of catalogs because archeologists can trace the origins of culture on the basis of language but that doesn't seem to carry over to common conversations. For instance the original Jews (not the white Jews) are Semites, a linguistic group that spans Africa and Arabia and actually includes Arabs. So when someone offends a white Jew and then gets called anti-Semitic, that's actually an erroneous call, because white Jews are not Semitic. And people are way off base when they refer to sympathy for the Palestinians as anti-Semitic because unlike the Jews, ALL Arabs ARE Semitic, including those in the Levant." - sUp

I agree with all above, except; " because white Jews are not Semitic."
Hebrew Jews/Judah are decedents of Abraham, Isaac and Joseph/Israel.
Arabs are descendants of Abraham and Hagar, the hand maiden of Abraham.
Ishmael their son, being the patriarch of some Arabs.
Caucasians/Whites are the descendants of the "lost" ten tribes of Jacob/Israel.
They migrated across the Caucasus mountains to Western Europe.
They fulfill all the prophesies on Joseph and his seed.
Becoming Christian nations.

straightUp Loc: California

OK... I mean, it's well known theory - I'll give you that. I like my theory better because it's based on archeological evidence which in my opinion is more reliable than a book of stories that have been translated across multiple languages and cultures, edited by political interests (cannons) and survived across centuries of time.

I know, I know... it's the Word of God. Well, you're welcome to believe that but I don't. As much as I believe in God, I just find the idea that His Truth is all neatly packaged up in a story book is absurd. But again, that's just my opinion.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

That defines race... Not racism...

I agree concerning most of your post otherwise.. and no, I didn't think you were calling me a racist.. Or Archie...

But you did seem to be insinuating that border security for the right is racially motivated...

English (and all other languages) evolve... That is not the same as intentionally ignoring the meaning of a term and using it as a dog whistle to shut down conversation...Racism is the left's favorite term... Socialism seems to be the right's...

It is almost impossible to understand what an individual is trying to say when they are unable to use correct terminology to express themselves...

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

" I'll give you that. I like my theory better because it's based on archeological evidence which in my opinion is more reliable than a book of stories that have been translated across multiple languages and cultures, edited by political interests (cannons) and survived across centuries of time." - straightUp

How about doing some studying sUp.
An interesting study for anyone not aware of our historical connections.

Christian Genealogy Study
Reference books;
Tracing Our White Ancestors by Frederick Haberman
Judah’s Sceptre and Joseph’s Birthright by J.H. Allen
St. Paul In Brittain by R.W.Morgan
Books by Christian archeologist E Raymond Capt; Jacob’s Pillar, Our great Seal, The Glory of the Stars, King Solomon’s Temple, Stonehenge and Glastonbury, and many more.

straightUp Loc: California

Are you suggesting the terms are unrelated?


I think for many it is. It's hard to ignore that after you see it in person.


I see what you're saying but then again, these terms wouldn't be used as much as they are if not for the element of truth they hold. I'm not saying everyone on the right is a racist, but I AM saying that racists are drawn to the right. Likewise, not everyone on the left is a socialist, but socialists are drawn to the left.


I tend to think that depends on the situation, but when discussing complex issues, yes - I agree.

straightUp Loc: California

Thanks for the list... Which would you recommend to a lay-scientist who doesn't count hearsay as evidence?

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Books by archeologist E Raymond Capt; Jacob’s Pillar, Our great Seal, The Glory of the Stars, King Solomon’s Temple, Stonehenge and Glastonbury, Stonehenge and Druidism, Missing Links In Assyrian Tablets, etc.

Wonttakeitanymore

Was the shooter wearing a Maga hat? Why would you blame anyone but the shooter? And of course the drugs that made them do it and the shrinks that knew they were twisted!