A simple question for simple minded trump supporters (Page 18): Don’t forget that automation is also taking a big bite out of manufacturing.

Saspatz007 Loc: The goat sheds

Barracuda2020 wrote:

Your quote: So, in other words, debt? I do tend to think that's what makes us economic "prisoners" but when I refer to us being sheep I am also referring to the way we surrender our will to determination our own fate through democracy.

I agree debt makes us all prisoners, including the country.

It's hard to fight for our democracy when at least 1/3 of the population refuse to even recognize our democracy and rant against it believing it is undermining our republic, no matter how much we try and explain the absurdness in their argument, with them not being one step closer to the understanding of it at all. How long can people argue against a brick wall? Their minds are closed, cemented in their conditioned biases and beliefs.

Look at what we're experiencing now, with this man who antagonizes and incites division and hatred in our country and this is what they're applauding and eating up. Don't get me wrong, I agree with pressing forward and to not allow the dismantling of our constitution and democracy but I am wondering where and when we are going to make that turn, I truly hope it is in the 2020 election.

It's hard to find 100% American made anymore, but if it is and they want the larger sale price for their goods, they just need to state why, along with the comparison. We can't compete with cheaper wages, so we have to look for these other ways of compensation/profit. I find part of the problem is the disposable attitude, people don't want to hold onto things for very long. Everything now is the new updated version.

Take a look at today's new home furnishings, it's not made of quality wood, it's all made in china, glue pressed molded sawdust faux crap painted over to look good and lasts for how long ...two years maybe. These are the manufacturing plants in China that put towns out of business in America. When this was happening who was showing us the comparisons of the products? No one.

We are in agreement, people's affordable choices and why they choose knock offs or cheaper quality merchandise. for example, if a family is trying to pay medical bills or old student loans, and something breaks down, you buy at that moment what you can afford and try not to go further into debt, this has become the American way of life. A far cry from our parents age.

Your quote: So, in other words, debt? I do tend to... (show quote)

Don’t forget that automation is also taking a big bite out of manufacturing.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Saspatz007 wrote:

Ok Thank you. I was a bit confused. I certainly don’t want to violate any community guidelines.

Community guidelines?

Have you spent any time on the OPP?

Lefties complain about righties...

Righties complain about lefties...

Nobody recognizes the innate superiority of Canuckistanians...

It's chaos

Mikeyavelli

Saspatz007 wrote:

Ok Thank you. I was a bit confused. I certainly don’t want to violate any community guidelines.

May you post millions.
djin, however, is restricted to 10.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

Community guidelines? br br Have you spent any t... (show quote)

Hard to out argue an Iceback wearing aviators, and a wifebeater, eh?

Saspatz007 Loc: The goat sheds

CodyCoonhound wrote:

My dad, WWII fighter pilot, taught me to participate in directing government to ensure the government did not get big enough and powerful enough to control what one citizen can do or not do. He knew the US Constitution better than most people I have ever met in my life time.

My father served in Vietnam. He wasn’t a draftee.
Both my spouse and I served during the Soviet-Afghan war. That’s where we met. What we saw done in the name of “Freedom “ left us both with a real bad taste in our mouths. The attachés from big oil and their “recommendations “ are the main reason both of us are willing to go to extreme lengths to strip corporate America of as much power as we can manage. Have no illusions, the military industrial complex is real, and very dangerous.

Did you notice that when Trump “withdrew” forces in Syria that our troops were then deployed to protect the oil fields? In Syria. Gosh, I wonder why that happened?

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He died young as a Vice President of a Major corporation's Marketing Dept. A corporation that did nothing to force its will on the employees. All the employees were free to contribute, suggest, provide ideas for products etc. And they were rewarded. A true exercise in the God given right of contribution and reward.

I’m glad your father worked for an enlightened corporation. I trust that you are aware that this is the exception. The majority of corporations are concerned with one thing, stock valuations. This is the main form of pay for top managers. Stock options.

Otherwise they could care less. For an example, look at the way Amazon treats the workers in their distribution centers. Workers have been taken to the emergency room after passing out from heat exhaustion. Perhaps a better example would be what happened in California with PG&E. As much as they cry “regulation”, if you look at their profits over time you will see that the big hits on their bottom line were when their negligence cost them a bundle. This time there was a body count. If you look at their profit line prior to when their negligence caught up with them, they were doing just fine.

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He also taught me to follow the money to help determine what people or groups or government wanted to be in the power position, despite the will of the people. I have come to see that as competitive cooperation when the people are first.

Here’s a question to consider. Which people? Corporate America? The Independence USA super pac which spent over 28 million to elect Democrats? The New Republic super pac, which spent over 30 million to defeat Democrats? Big oil? The military industrial complex? Who?

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I also see that when money is spent to kill the will of the people, it is time to stand very strong and tall and carry a big stick.

Pay attention. The propaganda war is on. Do not take anyone’s “facts” as gospel. Do your homework. These people know how to manipulate the public. Never be so arrogant as to believe that you are some how immune.

As my tag says: No innocent parties.

Saspatz007 Loc: The goat sheds

archie bunker wrote:

One word?

Money

🤣🙌👏👏

Saspatz007 Loc: The goat sheds

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

Community guidelines? br br Have you spent any t... (show quote)

Good one. 👏

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Saspatz007 wrote:

Pay attention. The propaganda war is on. Do not take anyone’s “facts” as gospel. Do your homework. These people know how to manipulate the public. Never be so arrogant as to believe that you are some how immune.

As my tag says: No innocent parties.

There are no innocent parties. Only innocent, hard working Americans getting screwed.
My opinion.

Saspatz007 Loc: The goat sheds

archie bunker wrote:

There are no innocent parties. Only innocent, hard working Americans getting screwed.
My opinion.

No argument there.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

archie bunker wrote:

Hard to out argue an Iceback wearing aviators, and a wifebeater, eh?

Today's wifebeater was purchased at my favorite bar back in Canada... Pretty damn sexy

straightUp Loc: California

CodyCoonhound wrote:

Productivity is the answer. Usually defined by country's GDP divided by the number of workers. China is the worlds worst productivity. Typically found in socialist or communists countries. Hong Kong knows this and will fight it, if China does not open up to more freedom for it's people.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2017-05-11/china-has-the-world-s-biggest-productivity-problem

Productivity is usually a good thing - 'not sure if it's "the answer" though. You see, China is unique... It has a population that far exceeds any other nation. That means China's worker to GDP ratio CAN be much lower than ours and STILL kick our ass on the market.

Something else to think about... GDP doesn't actually track production. It's easy to make that assumption because GNP (Gross National Product) does and GNP is what was used to measure productivity until they switched to GDP. GDP tracks the transfer of money across borders rather than the transfer of products. The difference is that the transfer of money includes foreign investment... so, money flowing into the U.S. in exchange for debt rather than product. Not a reflection of our productivity but a reflection of our credit line. Indeed, America's #1 export is debt and a LOT of it is owned by the communist government in Beijing.

Americans need to stop stroking themselves and wise up.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

archie bunker wrote:

There are no innocent parties. Only innocent, hard working Americans getting screwed.
My opinion.

Yep

straightUp Loc: California

CodyCoonhound wrote:

Why your great Huawei phone steals your freedom.

Huawei is China's NSA on anything American. I hope you have no insight that you share on your China phone that gives an edge to China to disrupt America.

https://freepressers.com/articles/fcc-ban-targets-huawei-equipment-near-montana-nuclear-missile-base?utm_source=&utm_medium=deployer&utm_campaign=Newsletter&utm_term=&utm_content=20191201171617

I don't see any indication that my phone is stealing my freedom. In fact I purchased it without a contract direct from Huawei. So, I'm more free now than I was with my Verizon-crippled Samsung. The battery is outstanding, the build is solid and I can hop between networks, even switch between CDMA and GSM.

Regarding the freepress article... Yes, I am fully aware of the Trump Administration's ban on Huawei and ZTC equipment. I am also aware that Trump can't tell ME what to do. He can tell the military not to buy Chinese equipment because the military is under his direction but I am not, so if I think Huawei has the best product for me, I'm buying it. Trump can SMD.

And no, I am not dismissing the potential threat to our national security. But if you read the article again you will notice there is no mention of any proof, nor is there any description or explanation of how Huawei equipment is a threat. The closest it comes is a vague reference to "reports" from the Trump Administration and Congress concerning backdoors and the potential of a threat. Well, "Congress" could mean the Freedom Caucus and I wouldn't trust anything from that chum bucket anymore than I would from the Trump Administration.

So, if Trump doesn't want me to buy Huawei, he better come up with a better report. In the meantime, I've checked with a number of hacker sites and there is no indication of backdoors in the phone I have.

But what about the possibility? Sure. There's always the possibility. There's also the possibility that Trump is just trying to do favors for the telecom companies that Huawei, the second largest supplier of telecom equipment in the world, competes with.

Heck, with my Chinese phone and no contract, I'm probably the most liberated phone user here. ;)

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

straightUp wrote:

I don't see any indication that my phone is steali... (show quote)

I use Huawei... Just bought my second phone...

Pretty happy with it...

Better life than Apple...

In my experience....

straightUp Loc: California

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

I use Huawei... Just bought my second phone...

Pretty happy with it...

Better life than Apple...

In my experience....

Yeah, I would recommend to anyone (who isn't forbidden). ;)