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Dec 1, 2019 09:38:19   #
CodyCoonhound Loc: Redbone Country
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
That server is the key to the coup and the Seth Rich murder.


Trump keeps talking about server and Ukraine and Crowd Strike. In the past, when Trump mentions something, that has always turned out to be true.

Also Assange charges have been dropped in Sweden. And the hacker residing in New Zealand who claims to have proof that Seth downloaded the server and gave to Assange has received some attention from Barr.

DOJ investigators have been to UK to meet Assange and then went onto New Zealand for some investigation.

Plus, all of Obama's cronies have made many trips to New Zealand. It is said that some are hiding out in that country.

Great novel or the truth, we will soon find out.

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Dec 1, 2019 09:38:32   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Rose42 wrote:
I know whats going on. Your mistake is in thinking its limited to the Koch brothers. There are others who hold sway over both parties and liberal or conservative doesn’t matter.

I think the Koch brothers are just the prime EXAMPLE Rose... Like Soros is the prime example for those on the right.

Rose42 wrote:

Ask yourself of all the worthy candidates why did the democrats end up with Clinton, Obama was a nobody who had done virtually nothing in politics, Trump, and now in the current crop of candidates the best have zero chance. And you think this is coincidence? There is no such thing.

Rose... Obama was a Senator. Before that he was a professor of Constitutional law. Even when he started out as a community organizer it was still politics. So, saying he had done virtually nothing in politics is a little bit ridiculous. It's like saying Henry Ford didn't know what a car is.

Also, keep in mind that your are sharing a Republic with 300 million other people, so who of the candidates are "best" depends on perspective. And this is why we wound up with Clinton, Obama, Trump, etc... Clinton and Obama were chosen by the majority of the American voters and enough voters chose Trump to allow a victory in the EC. That's just how it works.

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Dec 1, 2019 09:51:41   #
Saspatz007 Loc: The goat sheds
 
emarine wrote:
We assemble very little compared to China... we lost 60,000 plants in just Jr's time alone... & they got a tax break to boot...


That’s not my argument. My argument is that even if a consumer was committed to buying American, it would very difficult for them to know if what they were buying was actually made in America.

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Dec 1, 2019 09:52:14   #
CodyCoonhound Loc: Redbone Country
 
straightUp wrote:
Rose... Obama was a Senator. Before that he was a professor of Constitutional law. Even when he started out as a community organizer it was still politics. So, saying he had done virtually nothing in politics is a little bit ridiculous. It's like saying Henry Ford didn't know what a car is.

Also, keep in mind that your are sharing a Republic with 300 million other people, so who of the candidates are "best" depends on perspective. And this is why we wound up with Clinton, Obama, Trump, etc... Clinton and Obama were chosen by the majority of the American voters and enough voters chose Trump to allow a victory in the EC. That's just how it works.
Rose... Obama was a Senator. Before that he was a ... (show quote)


A little more truth to Obama's claim to being a professor. His history seems to change when one looks at what really happened and was reported 4 or 5 years before he ran for president.

https://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/obama-a-constitutional-law-professor/

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Dec 1, 2019 10:06:55   #
Rose42
 
straightUp wrote:
Rose... Obama was a Senator. Before that he was a professor of Constitutional law. Even when he started out as a community organizer it was still politics. So, saying he had done virtually nothing in politics is a little bit ridiculous. It's like saying Henry Ford didn't know what a car is.

Also, keep in mind that your are sharing a Republic with 300 million other people, so who of the candidates are "best" depends on perspective. And this is why we wound up with Clinton, Obama, Trump, etc... Clinton and Obama were chosen by the majority of the American voters and enough voters chose Trump to allow a victory in the EC. That's just how it works.
Rose... Obama was a Senator. Before that he was a ... (show quote)


You are entitled to your illusion about Obama. His record shows he did little in politics. Ted Kennedy introduced him as an 'up and comer' but he never really did much of anything. He was chosen and the results were orchestrated. You have to be naive to think otherwise. Clinton was far more qualified yet she was mercilessly skewered by the media while they were much more gentle with Obama.

I am sharing a republic with a lot of complacent voters who erroneously think things will change by a simple vote. It will take a lot more than that to have any real change.

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Dec 1, 2019 10:16:28   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
CodyCoonhound wrote:
A little more truth to Obama's claim to being a professor. His history seems to change when one looks at what really happened and was reported 4 or 5 years before he ran for president.

https://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/obama-a-constitutional-law-professor/


Obama a Constitutional Law Professor?

What difference does it make since Obama didn't respect the constitution?
A "fundamental change" is what he was after.

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Dec 1, 2019 10:17:40   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
That server is the key to the coup and the Seth Rich murder.


The fact that the FBI used unverified evidence from CrowdStrike to give an official department stamp of authenticity, is gross negligence and possibly treason.

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Dec 1, 2019 10:32:20   #
Cuda2020
 
emarine wrote:
We can blame China forever for what has happened over the last two decades... It was pure capitalism unobstructed that moved American labor offshore... Big Corporate profits enjoyed huge gains while paying little tax on pure profits... Corporations are for profit and are not people or care about people except on TV ads... Trump gave away trillions in tax cuts to the fat cats & lied to Americans ... MAGA is a cheap tool to incite followers ... thinking & observing is harder than chanting catch phrases at tribal rallies ... & while you're at it, beat the crap out of Americans who disagree... some see it & some don't...
We can blame China forever for what has happened o... (show quote)


Well said

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Dec 1, 2019 10:36:01   #
Cuda2020
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Obama a Constitutional Law Professor?

What difference does it make since Obama didn't respect the constitution?
A "fundamental change" is what he was after.


Too bad you are clueless in his meaning and try and perpetuate fear with his phrase to more clueless fearfull insecure people, this is Trump's base, their common core and the reason why he promotes it with every campaign speech.

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Dec 1, 2019 10:37:02   #
Cuda2020
 
byronglimish wrote:
The fact that the FBI used unverified evidence from CrowdStrike to give an official department stamp of authenticity, is gross negligence and possibly treason.


You're a real riot, calling that treason.

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Dec 1, 2019 10:40:07   #
Cuda2020
 
CodyCoonhound wrote:
A little more truth to Obama's claim to being a professor. His history seems to change when one looks at what really happened and was reported 4 or 5 years before he ran for president.

https://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/obama-a-constitutional-law-professor/


Where did he state he was a full-time professor? Many, many schools have people with their expertise, come in to teach as guest speakers.

from your link...

Due to numerous press inquiries on the matter, the school released a carefully worded statement saying that for his 12 years there he was considered to be "a professor."

UC Law School statement: The Law School has received many media requests about Barack Obama, especially about his status as "Senior Lecturer." From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School. He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year. Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status.

Like Obama, each of the Law School’s Senior Lecturers have high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.

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Dec 1, 2019 10:41:42   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Saspatz007 wrote:
Don’t blame the companies? Really. Are you aware that most products labeled “Made in America” are made in China and assembled in America. That way they can get away with the label. So explain to me how the consumer is responsible.

Because they buy the damned product! I understand your point but ignorance doesn't change reality.

And I do understand the resentment toward companies that fool consumers with misleading labels but keep in mind these are corporations that by their very design serve the interests of their investors first. If the consumers want corporations to be honest they need to turn to government, the only other collective with the power to equalize the corporate collective, and demand laws.

The problem here is that for the past 40 years, there has been a corporate campaign to undermine the trust we have in our government. Now it's at a point where you can't ask the government to force the corporation to disclose their sources without being attacked by fellow citizens, especially Republicans, for being anti-business. You will be called a socialist... an enemy of America.

So if it seems the corporations have all the power and control, it's because the American people failed to stand up for themselves and they continue to submit themselves willingly to the corporations that serve the investors first.

This is why America has a reputation now for being a nation of sheep. I'm not just saying that either. I worked in Europe for a while and that IS the reputation we have over there and in my opinion, it is dead on accurate.

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Dec 1, 2019 10:45:40   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
emarine wrote:
"We can blame China forever for what has happened over the last two decades... It was pure capitalism unobstructed that moved American labor offshore... Big Corporate profits enjoyed huge gains while paying little tax on pure profits... Corporations are for profit and are not people or care about people except on TV ads... Trump gave away trillions in tax cuts to the fat cats & lied to Americans ... MAGA is a cheap tool to incite followers ... thinking & observing is harder than chanting catch phrases at tribal rallies ... & while you're at it, beat the crap out of Americans who disagree... some see it & some don't.."

for starters;
"It was pure capitalism unobstructed that moved American labor offshore.." - emarine

Nope; It was the decades old agenda of NWO Bilderbergers!!!

"Actions at the multinational level will be required; if the process of international relocation of industries is to be achieved in an organized fashion." - TC Report #23, 1982

“An end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal attack" –
Richard Gardner , Ambassador to Italy - quoted in (CFR)Foreign Affairs, April, 1974

Zbigniew Brzezinski formed Trilateral Commission for David Rockefeller in 1973, and Jimmy Carter was made a founding member. Jimmy Carter became President, & ZB was installed as Carter's National Security Adviser. ZB continued where CFR/Trilat/Bilderberger/ Republican, Henry Kissinger, left off.

AND;
“Marxism is simultaneously a victory of the external, active man over the inner passive man and a victory of reason over belief… and has served to stir the mind and to mobilize human energies purposefully ”- Zbigniew Brzezinski - 'Between Two Ages' 1970 (p.72)
Referring to the rivalry between the USSR and the United States – “The eventual outcome of the competition is however, foreordained, given the inherent superiority of the communist system.” - ZB 'Between Two Ages' 1970 (pp.146,147)

So now you should know what these "capitalists" really are/were!

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Dec 1, 2019 10:57:37   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
You're a real riot, calling that treason.


That rich coming from the shallow end of the fact pool.

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Dec 1, 2019 10:59:43   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
You're a real riot, calling that treason.


Brennan and Schiff both emphatically proclaimed "the President has committed treason"

Only to hide their own.

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