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Nov 17, 2019 13:24:35   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
tactful wrote:
No,I'm not a host. our forum consists of conservatives,independents and progressives.
none are flakes,snow or otherwise,it makes for good topics and lively discussion
we do more to cover current events than oops can ever hope for,realizing we're a forum unable to do or change anything,we do offer various opinions to the airwaves we wish would happen.
there are two with ties to DC .... many already feel true snowflakes are those who dare speak the Truth.
hence:


Tactless!
You still with us?
Have you put on your big boy pants back on?

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Nov 26, 2019 05:58:59   #
promilitary
 
Airforceone wrote:
It’s with great sadness that I watch another High School shooting. And it’s with absolute hate for the Racist Degenerate Trump Party and the Republicans in Congress that the only option is to do nothing as we sit and watch another sad day in America.

It makes me sick that you say Trump is making America great I say BS you people are a bunch of disgusting pieces of garbage when you can sit back and do absolutely nothing, you block any kind of legislation that just might minimize the Murdering of children in school.

We as adults are suppose to protect our children and this Republican Party just want to adhere to the NRA who donate millions of dollars to the GOP. When the hell does all this stop.

(WHAT THE HELL KIND OF COUNTRY DO YOU PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE IN WHERE WE CANNOT PROTECT OUR CHILDREN)

Another sad day for this country and it hurts when I see this kind of stuff it hurts real bad. (BUT TRUMPS RACIST DEGENERATE PARTY COULD CARE LESS) I just can’t imagine how I would feel if it was one of my kids. But the way most of you Trump racist degenerate party members think is let’s send out thoughts and prayers except more money from the NRA and ignore any kind gun control.

But I guess it’s wait a couple of weeks do nothing and those thoughts and prayers mean nothing. (DO SOMETHING DOING NOTHING IS NOT AN OPTION) (STOP BLOCKING LEGISLATION, STOP PROTECTING A BUNCH OF AH THAT SIT ON THE BOARD OF THE NRA)

It hurts me to see this while the racist degenerate Trump supporters just sit back and except it.

(WE ARE SUPPOSE TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN NOT FILL THE POCKETS OF THE GUN MANUFACTURES, AND FILL THE GOP POCKETS WITH MILLIONS)

GOP agenda protect the wishes of the NRA to maintain power in Congress while our children get killed in a classroom.
It’s with great sadness that I watch another High ... (show quote)




What the hell has the NRA got to do with any of this? There has NEVER been an NRA member
involved in a shooting, except for those times when that member TOOK OUT the shooter.
The NRA has volunteered to train teachers, school officials, whoever, in the use of a gun in
order to protect students......left wing snowflakes always stand in the way with their zero
tolerance crap. Zero Tolerance and Gun Free zones, both Liberal policies are responsible
for getting these kids killed.

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Nov 26, 2019 09:08:38   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
promilitary wrote:
What the hell has the NRA got to do with any of this? There has NEVER been an NRA member
involved in a shooting, except for those times when that member TOOK OUT the shooter.

It always amazes me how the "dumb act" is such a frequent goto in the defense of the gun lobby. Well, how about you drop the dumb act? The NRA has been THE constant lobby in Washington for opposing any and all efforts to control guns the way the government controls any other item of potential danger. That's what the NRA has to do with any this.

promilitary wrote:

The NRA has volunteered to train teachers, school officials, whoever, in the use of a gun in
order to protect students......

And that's fine. I'm not going to say the NRA has no redeeming qualities. But that doesn't change the fact that they are also interfering with the will of the vast majority of American people that would also like a little sanity when it comes to regulating products.

promilitary wrote:

left wing snowflakes always stand in the way with their zero
tolerance crap.

I don't know about the "snowflakes" whoever they are, but the advocates of gun control are NOT asking for zero tolerance. I support gun control and yet I own several guns. Can you figure that one out Sparky? No, what's happening here is that some people are being fooled by the NRA into thinking that gun control is a conspiracy to take ALL the guns away.

promilitary wrote:

Zero Tolerance and Gun Free zones, both Liberal policies are responsible
for getting these kids killed.

That's just pure and utter ignorance. No wonder you're so easily fooled.

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Nov 26, 2019 10:15:02   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Gun control sucks. A hidden agenda never ceases.
Ask Australians about the gun confiscation that happened in their country.

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Nov 26, 2019 14:21:14   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Gun control sucks. A hidden agenda never ceases.
Ask Australians about the gun confiscation that happened in their country.


Gun control is an effort to save lives. There *IS* no hidden agenda and this isn't Australia.

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Nov 26, 2019 14:53:24   #
Rose42
 
straightUp wrote:
Gun control is an effort to save lives. There *IS* no hidden agenda and this isn't Australia.


That is the soft sell because who doesn’t want to save lives? Much like animal rightists claim all they want is to help animals when their real agenda is total animal liberation from humans. They are successful at chipping away because most people want to help animals.

There is no difference. No sane person wants either case but the nuts will never stop and no regulation will ever be enough.

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Nov 26, 2019 15:29:00   #
Rose42
 
alabuck wrote:
——————

Yea, Arch. I’m still kicking, just not as high or as hard as I once could. LOL!

You and the misses still working different work hours? I know it’s hard to do. When my wifey and I worked for the same company (different company organizations), oftentimes we’d be like 2 ships passing in the night. I thought we were like those 2 dogs on the Bugs Bunny cartoon series, back in the 60’s, Sam and George. When passing each other, they’d speak to one another with dead-pan expressions, “Hello Sam.” The other would reply, “Hello George.” (The scene isn’t as funny with me writing it as it was to watch it.)

Anyway... . As to the ”reasonableness” of my response; I’m trying not to be as critical of the “righties” on here as I have been. Let’s just say, I won’t start the insults. But, knowing how so many of them (present company excluded, of course) usually start off with insults, I’ll not be holding back on my replies to them. as we both admit, there are some in both sides to the argument that don’t know how to debate without resorting to insults right off the bat. They seem to forget, no debate is won by being the first to denigrate your opponent. All you’ve done is show that you have nothing of substance to add, hence, you’ve lost the debate/argument.

Hope things are going well with you and yours. Let me wish you all a very Merry Thanksgiving and a very Happy Christmas!

Your friend,
AB
—————— br br Yea, Arch. I’m still kicking, just n... (show quote)


Are you from England? Its the only place I heard Happy Christmas (an expression I like)

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Nov 26, 2019 15:38:48   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Rose42 wrote:
That is the soft sell because who doesn’t want to save lives? Much like animal rightists claim all they want is to help animals when their real agenda is total animal liberation from humans. They are successful at chipping away because most people want to help animals.

There is no difference. No sane person wants either case but the nuts will never stop and no regulation will ever be enough.


LOL - I don't think so Rose... Speaking for myself (a gun owner since I was 16) I would like some regulation and as someone who just donated $5K to EveryTown to battle the NRA, I am very much a gun-control advocate and I'm telling you... your little theory on gun-control is a joke.

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Nov 26, 2019 15:51:52   #
Rose42
 
straightUp wrote:
LOL - I don't think so Rose... Speaking for myself (a gun owner since I was 16) I would like some regulation and as someone who just donated $5K to EveryTown to battle the NRA, I am very much a gun-control advocate and I'm telling you... your little theory on gun-control is a joke.


I pay no attention to the NRA and I’m not against some control.

You can tell me all you want but you are dead wrong and its no joke. That they can never get them all does not deter them from inching forward. Its a common sense strategy.

I’d no more donate to Everytown than I would the NRA.

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Nov 26, 2019 17:02:33   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Rose42 wrote:
I pay no attention to the NRA and I’m not against some control.

You can tell me all you want but you are dead wrong and its no joke.

Here's the thing Rose... When you are actively supporting something for one reason and someone else says that you are supporting it for a different reason. Who do you suppose the real authority on that matter is?

If you KNOW your eyes are blue and some anonymous guy comes online and tells you they're brown, who do you think really knows the truth?

I just told you that I am an advocate of gun control and that I am NOT asking for a complete disarming of America. I think I know my own position, so yes, the idea that we ALL want to keep regulating until all guns are illegal IS in fact, a joke.

Now, maybe you're only referring to a subset. Well, I can't speak for ALL advocates of gun control. Maybe there ARE some "nuts" as you call them that DO want to disarm America. But if we keep defining political movements by their worst examples or our own paranoia, our democracy will not be able to accomplish anything.

As it is, of the 20 or so gun control advocates that I know personally, not ONE of them wants to disarm America. I'm not saying those people don't exist, I'm just getting tired of our perfectly reasonable arguments being ignored because people are obsessed with this idea that we are all part of a conspiracy to disarm America.

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Nov 26, 2019 21:42:34   #
Rose42
 
straightUp wrote:
Here's the thing Rose... When you are actively supporting something for one reason and someone else says that you are supporting it for a different reason. Who do you suppose the real authority on that matter is?

If you KNOW your eyes are blue and some anonymous guy comes online and tells you they're brown, who do you think really knows the truth?

I just told you that I am an advocate of gun control and that I am NOT asking for a complete disarming of America. I think I know my own position, so yes, the idea that we ALL want to keep regulating until all guns are illegal IS in fact, a joke.

Now, maybe you're only referring to a subset. Well, I can't speak for ALL advocates of gun control. Maybe there ARE some "nuts" as you call them that DO want to disarm America. But if we keep defining political movements by their worst examples or our own paranoia, our democracy will not be able to accomplish anything.

As it is, of the 20 or so gun control advocates that I know personally, not ONE of them wants to disarm America. I'm not saying those people don't exist, I'm just getting tired of our perfectly reasonable arguments being ignored because people are obsessed with this idea that we are all part of a conspiracy to disarm America.
Here's the thing Rose... When you are actively sup... (show quote)


I never assumed you wanted a ban and it would be a pretty inane assumption of someone who has guns would it not?

I only personally know of a few people who do want all guns banned. There are most definitely those who want them all banned and they are gaining ground. Even 10 years ago you’d never have heard of anyone calling for a ban on semi autos yet thats gaining traction. I’m not paranoid or fearful. I’m aware and I see the numerous parallels between them and animal rightists. Its very real whether you want to see it or not.

There are those who are in it to do some good - the everyday people. Then there are those running it who know exactly what they’re doing and how to temper their rhetoric and use people.

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Nov 26, 2019 21:48:41   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
I never assumed you wanted a ban and it would be a pretty inane assumption of someone who has guns would it not?

I only personally know of a few people who do want all guns banned. There are most definitely those who want them all banned and they are gaining ground. Even 10 years ago you’d never have heard of anyone calling for a ban on semi autos yet thats gaining traction. I’m not paranoid or fearful. I’m aware and I see the numerous parallels between them and animal rightists. Its very real whether you want to see it or not.

There are those who are in it to do some good - the everyday people. Then there are those running it who know exactly what they’re doing and how to temper their rhetoric and use people.
I never assumed you wanted a ban and it would be a... (show quote)


Well said

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Nov 26, 2019 22:01:05   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Rose42 wrote:
I never assumed you wanted a ban and it would be a pretty inane assumption of someone who has guns would it not?

I only personally know of a few people who do want all guns banned. There are most definitely those who want them all banned and they are gaining ground. Even 10 years ago you’d never have heard of anyone calling for a ban on semi autos yet thats gaining traction. I’m not paranoid or fearful. I’m aware and I see the numerous parallels between them and animal rightists. Its very real whether you want to see it or not.

There are those who are in it to do some good - the everyday people. Then there are those running it who know exactly what they’re doing and how to temper their rhetoric and use people.
I never assumed you wanted a ban and it would be a... (show quote)


How right you are! The subversive progressive agenda, evident by simple observation, is through small, patient, increments over time.

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Nov 26, 2019 22:01:07   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Well said


I would really like to be wrong about this.

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Nov 26, 2019 22:04:11   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
straightUp wrote:
Here's the thing Rose... When you are actively supporting something for one reason and someone else says that you are supporting it for a different reason. Who do you suppose the real authority on that matter is?

If you KNOW your eyes are blue and some anonymous guy comes online and tells you they're brown, who do you think really knows the truth?

I just told you that I am an advocate of gun control and that I am NOT asking for a complete disarming of America. I think I know my own position, so yes, the idea that we ALL want to keep regulating until all guns are illegal IS in fact, a joke.

Now, maybe you're only referring to a subset. Well, I can't speak for ALL advocates of gun control. Maybe there ARE some "nuts" as you call them that DO want to disarm America. But if we keep defining political movements by their worst examples or our own paranoia, our democracy will not be able to accomplish anything.

As it is, of the 20 or so gun control advocates that I know personally, not ONE of them wants to disarm America. I'm not saying those people don't exist, I'm just getting tired of our perfectly reasonable arguments being ignored because people are obsessed with this idea that we are all part of a conspiracy to disarm America.
Here's the thing Rose... When you are actively sup... (show quote)


Specifically, what type of gun "control" are you talking about?

I'm not against it, as long as it's reasonable, and what I've read about everytown is mostly unreasonable to me.

For example, If I want to pass my grandad's gun to my son, that should be it. It's a family heirloom just like a broach, ring, or pair of earrings.

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