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Nov 23, 2019 00:42:40   #
JW
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Lol... I thought he was mocking my thought process...


His contributions to this site mean nothing. His insults mean less than that.

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Nov 23, 2019 01:39:37   #
debeda
 
JW wrote:
His contributions to this site mean nothing. His insults mean less than that.


Thanks, JW, for the historical perspective, so to speak

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Nov 23, 2019 02:12:48   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
JW wrote:
His contributions to this site mean nothing. His insults mean less than that.


Perhaps that's why I have never noticed him before...

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Nov 23, 2019 08:35:31   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Perhaps that's why I have never noticed him before...




I believe he's done. There's been plenty of time for him to respond. He ain't gonna'.

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Nov 23, 2019 09:00:53   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
maximus wrote:
straightUp...Lets just stop bantering. You've been on OPP a long time, longer than me, but I am here almost every day and am just as qualified as anybody on this forum.
In a short couple of days that I even knew you existed, this IS your MO;
1. You argue and deny knowledge of a topic.
2. You say if that's true, then prove it.
3. If anyone such as myself posts proof you make fun of the proof.
4. You say something really crass like,"Are you stupid enough to believe that."
5. If a rebuttal is too short, you make fun of the poster.
6. If proof is proof, then you say something like," I haven't seen that and doubt if it is true."
7. If anyone such as Kyle calls you out on you behavior, you deny doing all these things and further insult the poster.
I said all that to say this. You come off as one big jerk. Your answers are smart a$$. Your demeanor is that you feel superior to everyone else, i.e. an egocentric. You make fun of people ONLY because they disagree with you.
You told me to get a spine because I cited Maxine Waters telling followers to identify Trump cabinet members and make a crowd, or more correctly a mob, to harass and scare them. You act as though this couldn't lead to someone taking it to the next step.
Here's how I am about being attacked because I'm a Trump supporter. I'm too old and fat to fight anymore but I'm armed everywhere I go. NO ONE will rob me of my dignity and/or be allowed to hurt me. I also make my living with a 40 Cal. semi auto on my side with 45 rounds (who wants to run out of ammo in a gun fight).
I have no fear.
I don't wear a MAGA hat because I don't want to go to prison for shooting some idiot that attacks me for my wardrobe.
All that aside, you really seem like one big jerk. If that's the persona that you want to project on OPP, so be it. I'll deal with it. I won't back down from you and I'll ask YOU to provide proof of what you say ( of which I haven't seen any, just mouthing).
You insulted Kyle and he is one of the nicest people you could ever meet on OPP or anywhere else. You say we don't know you but I think we know you much better than you think.
Sorry if it seems like I'm attacking you because I'm not. I'm just stating what I've seen from you in...what...two days?
Like I said, if that's the way you want to come across, that's all up to you. I will say I wish it were different.
straightUp...Lets just stop bantering. You've been... (show quote)


"straightUp...Lets just stop bantering. You've been on OPP a long time, longer than me, but I am here almost every day and am just as qualified as anybody on this forum.
In a short couple of days that I even knew you existed, this IS your MO;
1. You argue and deny knowledge of a topic.
2. You say if that's true, then prove it.
3. If anyone such as myself posts proof you make fun of the proof.
4. You say something really crass like,"Are you stupid enough to believe that."
5. If a rebuttal is too short, you make fun of the poster.
6. If proof is proof, then you say something like," I haven't seen that and doubt if it is true."
7. If anyone such as Kyle calls you out on you behavior, you deny doing all these things and further insult the poster.
I said all that to say this. You come off as one big jerk. Your answers are smart a$$. Your demeanor is that you feel superior to everyone else, i.e. an egocentric. You make fun of people ONLY because they disagree with you.
You told me to get a spine because I cited Maxine Waters telling followers to identify Trump cabinet members and make a crowd, or more correctly a mob, to harass and scare them. You act as though this couldn't lead to someone taking it to the next step.
Here's how I am about being attacked because I'm a Trump supporter. I'm too old and fat to fight anymore but I'm armed everywhere I go. NO ONE will rob me of my dignity and/or be allowed to hurt me. I also make my living with a 40 Cal. semi auto on my side with 45 rounds (who wants to run out of ammo in a gun fight).
I have no fear.
I don't wear a MAGA hat because I don't want to go to prison for shooting some idiot that attacks me for my wardrobe.
All that aside, you really seem like one big jerk. If that's the persona that you want to project on OPP, so be it. I'll deal with it. I won't back down from you and I'll ask YOU to provide proof of what you say ( of which I haven't seen any, just mouthing).
You insulted Kyle and he is one of the nicest people you could ever meet on OPP or anywhere else. You say we don't know you but I think we know you much better than you think.
Sorry if it seems like I'm attacking you because I'm not. I'm just stating what I've seen from you in...what...two days?
Like I said, if that's the way you want to come across, that's all up to you. I will say I wish it were different." - Maximus

That pretty well covers the Limey.

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Nov 23, 2019 10:20:37   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Yep... It's a political forum... Doesn't mean we have to behave like piticians...
Everyone's political position guarantees that they are going to piss some folk off...

Agreed... it's human nature. So is the tendency for that irritation to lower the tolerance for banter. In other words, *sometimes* the "bad behavior" is in the eye of the beholder.

Do you remember what started all this? LOL - I'm not even sure I do, but I started to notice the attacks on my "bad behavior" after I responded to Doug61's tirade of unfounded insults which included a statement about a decorated veteran who earned a purple heart while serving his country, that went like this... "Mr [not Lt. Colonel] Vindman is a jackass in uniform and deserves to be shot as a spy after being stripped of his rank."

So... I decided to keep it light and i said... "Aw, you're upset. Wanna tissue?"

Now as you know, people are different. I married into large Irish-American family with a culture of humorous banter that would bruise the sensibilities of a person with a different nature and after 35 years, I suppose it's become part of who I am. And before you say it - yes, I know - this is a political discussion forum, not my Irish-American family. But here's my feeling on that... If you're going to launch such vile insults about people you shouldn't expect people to kid-glove their responses.

As it turns out, Doug61 never responded. Either he never saw my response or he just walked away from it, which may have been the better thing to do, but that's when debeda chimed in to say I sound like a twit... to which *I* didn't respond because... why? Right? But I guess by that time the vendetta was on and next thing I know I'm being treated to an intervention to address my "rudeness".

I guess, what I'm saying is if people are going to engage in political discussions it's not a good idea to expect every conversation to be tea with the Queen. Again, I'm not suggesting we also tolerate direct insults; even my Irish-American family can see THAT difference, even after 3 six-packs of brew and two bottles of whiskey. ;)

You made some points in your post that I don't agree with entirely but unless any of it is something you really want me to address, I think I'll just let all that slide.

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

I like Irish Rock..

So do I. The band I play with now is Irish traditional (we call it Celtic-Trad because it's really Scottish and English too... jigs and reels but people usually know what I mean when I say Irish. The flute player's brother is in an Irish rock band and sometimes I break out my electric and play with them. It's mostly therapy for me ;)

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Nov 23, 2019 10:58:50   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
maximus wrote:
I believe he's done. There's been plenty of time for him to respond. He ain't gonna'.

Sorry max - I didn't know you guys were still talking about me. ;)

Just so you know, my attendance here is not entirely consistent. I have a lot going on in the physical world but I DO try to finish my conversations when I can.

Of course, when I come back to do that and find all these exchanges behind my back about how my "contributions mean nothing" it kinda gives your extended hand a less than genuine feel. Just saying.

Anyway...

maximus wrote:

I chose that avatar because I really like that movie.

Cool... I don't remember asking about that but OK... I liked that movie too. I'm something of a cheesy 50's Sci-Fi buff. ;)

maximus wrote:

I would like to get to know you, and only said what I have to go on (on a very short time frame).
But, let's do this...our rebuttals to each other are beginning to hit us (both). We aren't debating politics, we are debasing each other.
So, let's start over. I understand that you have opposing views to my own and you have every right to do so. I will listen to your statements and consider what you have said. I will refrain from calling you names or poking fun at you. However I said you come off, first impressions are NOT the best. I don't know what else to offer you, lest we become enemies, a thing I truly don't want or need.
What do I ask for in return? Nothing.
You have a really great day.
br I would like to get to know you, and only said... (show quote)

By all means max... this was the point I was making earlier about focusing on the political discussion instead of getting caught in the ad hominem fallacy trap. To be honest I don't remember actually calling you names but I will continue to avoid it.

Yes, I think we have some opposing views. So if we continue to discuss politics we're probably going to get frustrated with each other from time to time. You realize that, right? May I also suggest that if one of us thinks the other is being insulting that we keep in mind it may not always be intentional. I really do believe that half this battle is that people choose to be insulted. So maybe just a nudge, like "eh, that seems a little insulting there pal." - rather than hijacking the thread to launch a panel discussion about a poster's character. Yeah?

Enjoy your Saturday bro.

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Nov 23, 2019 11:02:06   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
JW wrote:
His contributions to this site mean nothing. His insults mean less than that.

JW - you and I have had some HEATED debates. Hard to imagine anyone getting so heated about nothing. ;)

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Nov 23, 2019 11:03:33   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"straightUp...Lets just stop bantering. You've been on OPP a long time, longer than me, but I am here almost every day and am just as qualified as anybody on this forum.
In a short couple of days that I even knew you existed, this IS your MO;
1. You argue and deny knowledge of a topic.
2. You say if that's true, then prove it.
3. If anyone such as myself posts proof you make fun of the proof.
4. You say something really crass like,"Are you stupid enough to believe that."
5. If a rebuttal is too short, you make fun of the poster.
6. If proof is proof, then you say something like," I haven't seen that and doubt if it is true."
7. If anyone such as Kyle calls you out on you behavior, you deny doing all these things and further insult the poster.
I said all that to say this. You come off as one big jerk. Your answers are smart a$$. Your demeanor is that you feel superior to everyone else, i.e. an egocentric. You make fun of people ONLY because they disagree with you.
You told me to get a spine because I cited Maxine Waters telling followers to identify Trump cabinet members and make a crowd, or more correctly a mob, to harass and scare them. You act as though this couldn't lead to someone taking it to the next step.
Here's how I am about being attacked because I'm a Trump supporter. I'm too old and fat to fight anymore but I'm armed everywhere I go. NO ONE will rob me of my dignity and/or be allowed to hurt me. I also make my living with a 40 Cal. semi auto on my side with 45 rounds (who wants to run out of ammo in a gun fight).
I have no fear.
I don't wear a MAGA hat because I don't want to go to prison for shooting some idiot that attacks me for my wardrobe.
All that aside, you really seem like one big jerk. If that's the persona that you want to project on OPP, so be it. I'll deal with it. I won't back down from you and I'll ask YOU to provide proof of what you say ( of which I haven't seen any, just mouthing).
You insulted Kyle and he is one of the nicest people you could ever meet on OPP or anywhere else. You say we don't know you but I think we know you much better than you think.
Sorry if it seems like I'm attacking you because I'm not. I'm just stating what I've seen from you in...what...two days?
Like I said, if that's the way you want to come across, that's all up to you. I will say I wish it were different." - Maximus

That pretty well covers the Limey.
"straightUp...Lets just stop bantering. You'v... (show quote)


LOL - was that good for you sharky?

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Nov 23, 2019 11:08:24   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
straightUp wrote:
Ha! You WISH!

None of the hilarious distractions tossed out by busy bees like Hannity makes any difference to the impeachment case. The Dems are focused, smoke-screens aren't going to work.

As far as I am concerned, if there IS evidence of Democratic interference in the 2016 elections, they should pursue it. If they find proof they should prosecute. It still has no bearing on what Trump did in 2019 and it stumps me how any grown person can actually assume it will.

Hannity is in an idiot.

This however, *is* hillarious...

Ha! You WISH! br br None of the hilarious distrac... (show quote)


"This however, *is* hillarious..."

https://static.onepoliticalplaza.com/upload/2019/11/22/452847-schiff_01.jpg

Yes he is!
For those who missed these.

Great portrayals of Schifty:
Gutfeld on Adams Schiff's lies
(go to minute 2)
https://youtu.be/3wKEnKoc1x8

Gutfeld on the impeachment circus
https://youtu.be/2mHgJxTmWwA?list=TLPQMTQxMTIwMTl36ctge-TfsA

Gutfeld: What's a liberal to do when a Republican is better at compassion?
https://youtu.be/tGMeZ01_eco

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Nov 23, 2019 11:41:55   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
eagleye13 wrote:

LOL - well, I was referring to his face in the picture but, OK.

eagleye13 wrote:

For those who missed these.

Great portrayals of Schifty:
Gutfeld on Adams Schiff's lies
(go to minute 2)
https://youtu.be/3wKEnKoc1x8

Yeah, it's pretty typical Fox stuff. "When the facts can't - there's always the rant." LOL. I went to the second minute and it's just Gut-feel... ranting about some weird assertion that the Democrats are saying we have to impeach the president to see what he did wrong (hilarious) I kept rewinding to the first minute expecting to see the clip of Schiff actually saying that. It's not there. Really BIG surprise.

I don't spend a lot of time trying to analyse Fox propaganda but I suspect they are recycling their previous out-of-context platinum hit from when Pelosi was talking about the way Republicans were masking the proposed ACA with all kinds of lies about what it is and basically joked that the only way *some* people will ever get to the truth about the ACA is if it actually passes because it's harder to lie about the law once it's written in the stone.

I actually saw this pop up in another thread where someone actually suggested that Pelosi said we have to impeach Trump to find out what he did. She never said any such thing.

And you guys call Dems the liars? tsk, tsk.

eagleye13 wrote:

Gutfeld on the impeachment circus
https://youtu.be/2mHgJxTmWwA?list=TLPQMTQxMTIwMTl36ctge-TfsA

Gutfeld: What's a liberal to do when a Republican is better at compassion?
https://youtu.be/tGMeZ01_eco


Yeah... I gotta go. 'Things to do. I can't watch Fox clips on YouTube all day. If you have an actual argument let me know.

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Nov 23, 2019 12:55:29   #
JW
 
straightUp wrote:
JW - you and I have had some HEATED debates. Hard to imagine anyone getting so heated about nothing. ;)


No heat here, Sport. Just acknowledging more of the same from you and urging those insulted not to take you seriously.

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Nov 24, 2019 07:09:16   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
straightUp wrote:
Yeah... I gotta go. 'Things to do. I can't watch Fox clips on YouTube all day. If you have an actual argument let me know.


"We have to pass the bill to find out what's in it" - Nancy Pelosi

That is an actual quote at one of hew news conferences.

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Nov 25, 2019 17:40:25   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
JW wrote:
No heat here, Sport. Just acknowledging more of the same from you and urging those insulted not to take you seriously.

Right on Scooter... It's always good to remind people not to get too excited about anonymous posts.


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Nov 25, 2019 17:52:48   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"We have to pass the bill to find out what's in it" - Nancy Pelosi

That is an actual quote at one of hew news conferences.

Yeah dude... I know.

Here's another quote from the exact same source... "We have to pass the bill". Right? I mean she *did* actually say that. Oh, is that not enough of what she said to expose the funny? Well, ya see what happens when you only quote part of a statement?

This was her entire sentence...

"We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy."

It was a humorous response to the way the Republicans were distorting the the bill with lies while it was being developed. I already explained all this.

So are you going to say the same thing? You remind me of that character from Spinal Tap who told a reporter that his volume knob goes to 11. The reporter asked what the point is and the guitarist pauses and just says... it goes to 11.

LOL

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