straightUp Loc: California

Oh, so now the republic is great eh? Then what's with the MAGA hats you Trump turds are always wearing that suggests the republic needs work to be great again? Do you just change your mind depending on your conversation or do you just spew words without really knowing what they mean?

I tell ya what - all banter aside, why don't you tell me what YOU think made our republic so great, I'd LOVE to hear this.

debeda

Perhaps. He certainly does better than you. But you do exemplify the PC culture well. Anyone who doesn't think like you do is "stupid". That also illustrates the difference between PC and civil rather well. In PC culture, certain words, phrases and narratives are VERBOTEN. In a civil culture, everything is open to discussion. It's the difference between suppression of thought and exchange of ideas and free thought and exchange of ideas.

straightUp Loc: California

OK, so a suggestion from a candidate on a campaign trail... And how is maximus calling this a law? Or did he just not expect anyone to actually call him out on his claim?


Of course not.

straightUp Loc: California

Well, I suppose I enjoy a good insult here and there, but they are always in response to someone else's insult. I never use insults as a way to escape an argument I can't counter, so I guess that means I do better than you. ;)


Yeah, I'm pretty used to that mischaracterization. I've never suggested any such thing, nor is that what I think but it seems a common response on this site from people who disagree with me... For some reason they can't just say "I disagree" they have to go into this "you think I'm stupid" nonsense.

So... you think PC is specifically a left-wing process of shutting down alternate opinions. Well, as best I can tell, that's a distortion of the truth caused by that all too familiar "I'm a victim of mean liberals that tell me what to do" syndrome.

Here's the definition found on Britannica...

Political correctness (PC), term used to refer to language that seems intended to give the least amount of offense, especially when describing groups identified by external markers such as race, gender, culture, or sexual orientation.

That's pretty much all there is to it, which in my opinion is just being polite. When people have a problem with PC it means they don't want to be told it's wrong to call black people niggers or gay men faggots, etc... OR they lost track of what PC actually means, which I think may be the case for you and Canuckus.

Britannica goes on to say...

The concept has been discussed, disputed, criticized, and satirized by commentators from across the political spectrum.

At this point it's almost a meaningless term.


One of perhaps millions of differing opinions on what PC means. Nevertheless, this does explain YOUR view on the matter, so I'll just address it as such...

First of all, your use of the word VERBOTEN is misplaced. PC culture is NOT enforced by the law. If you want to talk about niggers you might be asking for a punch in the mouth or a rash of insults but you are not going to be punished or shutdown by the government. So it's pretty simple - you can choose to be PC or you can choose not to - it's up to you.

Also, a civil culture has ALWAYS been characterized by self-imposed limits on language, which I will simply call politeness. That doesn't mean subject matters are off limits, it just means offensive insults are avoided which in many cases leads to more open discussions.

As for shutting down alternate opinions, PC has nothing to do with that unless the opinion has no redeeming value other than to insult a demographic. There is no reason for any true argument to be insulting. Every constructive opinion in existence can be expressed within the confines of PC language and that includes opinions on the right.

Yes, alternate opinions are routinely shut down by people on all sides. My views are constantly dismissed by the right-wing on this site, usually with unimaginative insults, absurd suggestions or both. It's not a big deal - if that sort of thing bothered me, I wouldn't be here. But not once have I ever blamed someones dismissal of my opinion on being PC.

Honestly, I think you folks are just looking for things to blame and your version of PC takes a lot of your intangible frustrations and puts it in a nice target to shoot at.

bggamers Loc: georgia

How about when the speech encouraging violence or harassment comes from someone like waters or Pelosi I havent heard any complaints about their tirades during their rallies but let someone else say anything like they do you end up in jail

straightUp Loc: California

I'm not familiar with anything Waters or Pelosi said that intentionally encourages violence or would put another person in jail if they were to say it. Perhaps you can provide a sample?

debeda

Interesting you specifically called me stupid - for not agreeing with you, apparently - and now deny it. Your self serving dissertation is boring and illustrated even more strongly your programming. God bless you.

debeda

Cuz they're on the right side of PC - at the moment...

maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee

Interesting, your using football as an analogy.


Two teams are playing...th Reps and the Dems.
The Reps win.
The Dems refuse to accept it, they attack the referees, attack the crowd, and tear up the playing field. They vow to have the end result reversed.

That's where we are today.

debeda

Absolutely right on, Max

maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee

I'll provide one for you;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJCDe7vdFfw

If you would listen to the REAL news, you would have a basis in reality. If you really don't know about Waters calling for violence, that doesn't mean it didn't happen. It just means you chose to ignore it.

Ricktloml

Gee WHEN did Russia take part of Ukraine? That would be when OBAMA was president. And Obama was caught on an open mike telling Dimitry Medvedev, "After my election I have more flexibility". Medvedev responded, "I will transmit this information to Vladimir". Flexibility about what? Ukrainian missile defense systems, that's what. Obama promised Ukraine if they gave up the massive amounts of arms they had left from the Soviet Union, that the U.S. would be there to protect them. When Russia invaded, WHILE OBAMA WAS PRESIDENT, and Ukraine asked for the help Obama promised...Obama sent them BLANKETS and MREs. President Trump DID send weapons to the Ukraine, President Trump HAS sanctioned Russia much more than other presidents. It was the Democrat/socialist Party, and their propaganda wing ,(the laughably called mainstream media,) that have worked with the Russians, (the unverified, and unverifiable Steels Dossier, and more,) AND the Ukrainian government, (the DNC sent operatives, Politico covered this, to manufacture dirt on the Trump campaign,) all while Obama was president to interfere in the 2016 elections. Any feelings of sedition and treason for these verifiable actions? Or is the propaganda put out by Obama, the Democrat/socialist Party and their accomplice and collaborators in the media enough to sway your opinion.

debeda

straightUp Loc: California

I don't think so deb. Don't forget, you can always link to my quotes so that being the case, I'll assume you're just lying until you do.

And don't assume that just because you're programmed, everyone else is too. My opinions are my own, arrived at through my own analysis. I might agree with political narratives to one degree or another but I am certainly not programmed nor do I blindly subscribe.

When people are programmed deb, they don't have explanations for their conclusions, which is often why their posts tend to be brief and not elaborate as mine usually are (which I know is the reason why some of you go off on this "he thinks he's so smart" bullshit). But that's what happens when you converse with someone who DOES think for himself. Not used to that are you?

Also, when I challenge someone to explain their view and in return I get insults, or nothing at all well, it's pretty obvious who the programmed poster is. So you might want to think about that. In the meantime, say it all you want if it makes you feel better but I'm just going to read it an empty insult which says more about you than it does me.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Ukraine Crisis - What You're Not Being Told
https://youtu.be/fWkfpGCAAuw

Trump: Russia Uranium Deal Sealed ‘With Clinton Help’ is Biggest Story ‘Fake Media’ Won’t Cover
https://www.westernjournalism.com/trump-slams-fake-media-ignoring-russia-uranium-deal-sealed-clinton-help/

BY The Way; ONLY FOX Cable News covered the Russian collusion. The CNNABCNBCCBS network is trying like hell to ignore the collusion of the Justice Department in covering for the colluders.