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Trump defends abandoning the Kurds by saying they didn't help the US in WWII
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Oct 9, 2019 19:30:41   #
Lonewolf
 
It just gets better and better

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-abandoning-kurds-syria-didnt-help-during-wwii-allies-2019-10

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Oct 9, 2019 20:01:00   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 


Yeah, well, we fought Turkey in WWI, so why do they get a pass?

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Oct 9, 2019 20:18:08   #
MalG
 
The Turks ran out of Armenians to kill, they had to pick on someone. They are probably still mad because of Alexander I. (It's not called Persia anymore.) But they did help in Korea.

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Oct 9, 2019 20:50:10   #
Radiance3
 

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But the Kurds were instrumental in helping the Allied Forces take down Sadam. and also ISIS. Kurds are more friendly to the US, than all of the traitor Islam.

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Oct 9, 2019 20:52:20   #
Gatsby
 


In defending his Syria decision the president declared,

“It is time for us to get out of these ridiculous endless wars, many of them tribal,
and bring our soldiers home. We will fight where it is to our benefit, and only fight to win.”

58% of Likely U.S. Voters agree with Trump’s statement,
20% disagree,
22% are not sure.

Even 55% of Democrats agree with the statement, although the survey did not identify
President Trump as the source of the quotation in its question.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/us_military/most_agree_with_trump_s_withdrawal_from_endless_wars

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Oct 9, 2019 21:05:03   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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But the Kurds were instrumental in helping the Allied Forces take down Sadam. and also ISIS. Kurds are more friendly to the US, than all of the traitor Islam.


There’s Kurds and then there’s Kurds. Seems to be a difference between the grip in Syria and the ones that helped us before. Well research more.

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Oct 9, 2019 21:10:39   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Gatsby wrote:
In defending his Syria decision the president declared,

“It is time for us to get out of these ridiculous endless wars, many of them tribal,
and bring our soldiers home. We will fight where it is to our benefit, and only fight to win.”

58% of Likely U.S. Voters agree with Trump’s statement,
20% disagree,
22% are not sure.

Even 55% of Democrats agree with the statement, although the survey did not identify
President Trump as the source of the quotation in its question.
In defending his Syria decision the president decl... (show quote)
I just listened to an Army combat medic on a phone call to Mark Levin. He was terribly distressed, crying actually, over Trump's decision to abandon the Kurds. They are the most pro-American Muslims on the planet and this medic who went into action with the Kurds, treated their wounded, and made many friends, even helped a Kurdish fighter's family to immigrate to the US.

I don't give a shit about what the polls say, this crap about "endless wars" is unconscionable propaganda. I think Trump's decision is a disgrace. Good God, what is he thinking. Who or what the hell got to him. I hope he comes to his senses before it is too damned late. There is no possibility for any good to come from this. The Turks are not just killing the Kurds, they are committing horrendous atrocities. The Kurdish women who fought like tigers are getting special treatment.

Special forces soldier tells Fox News reporter he’s ‘ashamed’ to carry out Trump’s order on the Kurds

A special forces soldier spoke to Fox News national security correspondent Jennifer Griffin and confessed they were “ashamed.”

“I just spoke to a distraught US Special Forces soldier who is among the 1000 or so US troops in Syria tonight who is serving alongside the SDF Kurdish forces,” Griffin tweeted Wednesday evening.

She also said that it was one of the hardest phone calls she’s ever taken.

“I am ashamed for the first time in my career,” the soldier told her. “Turkey is not doing what it agreed to. It’s horrible.”

According to Griffin, this soldier has helped train local forces on the ground in multiple continents. Tonight, he is on the ground “witnessing Turkish atrocities.”

Turkey has been after the Kurds since the late 1970s, before most of the soldiers in the military were even born. The U.S. worked with the Kurds to fight back against ISIS in Syria, but now they’re facing attacks from another foe entirely. Already, civilians are dead at the hands of Turkey’s attacks.

He explained to Griffin that the Kurds “are as close to Western thinking in the Middle East as anyone.”

“We met every single security agreement. The Kurds met every single agreement. There was NO threat to the Turks – NONE – from this side of the border,” the soldier told Griffin. “This is insanity. I don’t know what they call atrocities but they are happening.”

Despite knowing the U.S. was supposed to be pulling out and Turkey was on its way to bomb them, the Kurdish people stayed to ensure someone was guarding ISIS prisoners, the soldier told Griffin.

“They prevented a prison break last night without us,” the soldier said. “They are not abandoning our side (yet).”

But they are “pleading for our support.” but the U.S. is doing “nothing.” He said that he anticipates the ISIS fighters will likely be “free in the coming days and weeks.”

He was surprised that Trump made that decision Sunday, he said.

“Trump doesn’t understand the problem. He doesn’t understand the repercussions of this. Erdogan is an Islamist, not a level-headed actor,” he said. “This is not helping the ISIS fight.”

“The Kurds are sticking by us. No other partner I have ever dealt with would stand by us,”

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Oct 9, 2019 22:10:34   #
Lonewolf
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Yeah, well, we fought Turkey in WWI, so why do they get a pass?


The turks have been good allies long before ww2 and they fought on our side in ww2

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Oct 9, 2019 22:15:29   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Lonewolf wrote:
The turks have been good allies long before ww2 and they fought on our side in ww2


True. And now they’re run by a member of the Muslim Brotherhood and an authoritarian Islamist. They should be booted from NATO. We can never fully trust a Muslim country

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Oct 9, 2019 22:19:50   #
Radiance3
 
JFlorio wrote:
True. And now they’re run by a member of the Muslim Brotherhood and an authoritarian Islamist. They should be booted from NATO. We can never fully trust a Muslim country


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I wonder how Turks became a NATO member. Very different sect of civilization, and world vision.

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Oct 9, 2019 22:33:08   #
Lonewolf
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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I wonder how Turks became a NATO member. Very different sect of civilization, and world vision.

They have been close and good Ally for a long time we have a big Air Base there we also have no clear what there

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Oct 9, 2019 23:33:21   #
Radiance3
 
Lonewolf wrote:
They have been close and good Ally for a long time we have a big Air Base there we also have no clear what there

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Prove it.

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Oct 9, 2019 23:40:12   #
Radiance3
 


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This is how Kurds helped the Allied forces.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2019/10/09/kurds-turkey-syria-isis-war-iraq-trump-column/3917818002/

I witnessed the Kurds fought during the Iraqi war. I was so impressed they were so loyal to the US forces, now we are abandoning them. I saw them fought together with our own brothers in Iraq.They sacrificed for all of us. They also saved so many Christians escaping from the brutalities of Saddam's troops. They are more moderate Muslims, they don't do jihad to Christians.

Now what has that to do with WW2? It was Europe, the US and allied forces, who fought WW2, In Europe and the Pacific.

I hope president Trump rethinks about this. I am tempted to write him. I think I will, I pity the Kurds. I don't want Turks decimate the Kurds. I saw them before fought for our allied forces.

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Oct 10, 2019 11:53:49   #
Lonewolf
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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This is how Kurds helped the Allied forces.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2019/10/09/kurds-turkey-syria-isis-war-iraq-trump-column/3917818002/

I witnessed the Kurds fought during the Iraqi war. I was so impressed they were so loyal to the US forces, now we are abandoning them. I saw them fought together with our own brothers in Iraq.They sacrificed for all of us. They also saved so many Christians escaping from the brutalities of Saddam's troops. They are more moderate Muslims, they don't do jihad to Christians.

Now what has that to do with WW2? It was Europe, the US and allied forces, who fought WW2, In Europe and the Pacific.

I hope president Trump rethinks about this. I am tempted to write him. I think I will, I pity the Kurds. I don't want Turks decimate the Kurds. I saw them before fought for our allied forces.
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Did you forget a lot of ww2 was fought in the middle east trumps only doing this to help Russia

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Oct 10, 2019 11:59:46   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Did you forget a lot of ww2 was fought in the middle east trumps only doing this to help Russia


You're just as dumb on Foreign Policy as you are on everything else.

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