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Sep 29, 2019 10:40:38   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
kemmer wrote:
Indeed? I've know love and joy these past 44 years I've been with my partner. Last week we celebrated our 44th in Florence, Italy.


You'll will never know the love of having a baby you've made...its different.

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Sep 29, 2019 10:44:57   #
Seth
 
kemmer wrote:
You're not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you...


...says the butter knife.

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Sep 29, 2019 10:46:18   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
jSmitty45 wrote:
So he told us!


Yes he did, and I was so scared that Rosie O'Donnell would step in.

I mean that makes as much sense as his prediction.

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Sep 29, 2019 10:53:30   #
kemmer
 
byronglimish wrote:
You'll will never know the love of having a baby you've made...its different.

For 35 years I’ve had 30+ children in my care and under my instruction 6 hours a day. That is quite sufficient, thanks.

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Sep 29, 2019 11:04:37   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
kemmer wrote:
For 35 years I’ve had 30+ children in my care and under my instruction 6 hours a day. That is quite sufficient, thanks.


It's not the same. Do you celebrate all of their birthdays, weddings, Christmas?

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Sep 29, 2019 11:18:39   #
Singularity
 
byronglimish wrote:
It's not the same. Do you celebrate all of their birthdays, weddings, Christmas?


I have birth children, step children, fostered children and a couple twins I actually legally kidnapped.

Love is love, limited only by a lack of imagination or a certain type of heartlessness.

I don't celebrate Christmas but all seasonal gifts are still gratefully demanded.

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Sep 29, 2019 11:31:07   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Paul Johnson is considered one of the greatest historians of the 20th century. He is one of the most prolific British writers of the last half-century and a superb chronicler of the past.

His book, Intellectuals: From Marx and Tolstoy to Sartre and Chomsky is a remarkable indictment of despots and tyrants.

Here is the final paragraph of the book:

What conclusions should be drawn? Readers will judge for themselves. But I think I detect today a certain public scepticism when intellectuals stand up to preach to us, a growing tendency among ordinary people to dispute the right of academics, writers and philosophers, eminent though they may be, to tell us how to behave and conduct our affairs. The belief seems to be spreading that intellectuals are no wiser as mentors, or worthier as exemplars, than the witch doctors or priests of old. I share that scepticism. A dozen people picked at random on the street are at least as likely to offer sensible views on moral and political matters as a cross-section of the intelligentsia. But I would go further. One of the principal lessons of our tragic century, which has seen so many millions of innocent lives sacrificed in schemes to improve the lot of humanity, is beware intellectuals. Not merely should they be kept well away from the levers of power, they should also be objects of particular suspicion when they seek to offer collective advice. Beware committees, conferences and leagues of intellectuals. Distrust public statements issued from their serried ranks. Discount their verdicts on political leaders and important events. For intellectuals, far from being highly individualistic and non-conformist people, follow certain regular patterns of behaviour. Taken as a group, they are often ultra-conformist within the circles formed by those whose approval they seek and value. That is what makes them, en masse, so dangerous, for it enables them to create climates of opinion and prevailing orthodoxies, which themselves often generate irrational and destructive courses of action. Above all, we must at all times remember what intellectuals habitually forget: that people matter more than concepts and must come first. The worst of all despotisms is the heartless tyranny of ideas.
Paul Johnson is considered one of the greatest his... (show quote)


This is a description of a stereotype. Do all intellectuals fall into this stereotype? No. In fact the strongest challenges to intellectuals are from other intellectuals. This is because intellectuals have the capacity to argue, but its frustrating for non-intellectuals who don't. For these people, it becomes a matter of who they trust which is something that is easily exploited, something that religious and political authorities have been doing throughout human history.

So a population of non-intellectuals who can't think for themselves and therefore depend on trusting the thoughts of others winds up being an opportunity for those others to misguide them. Paul Johnson is one of those opportunists and if he can discredit intellectuals in the minds of the unthinking, then he essentially perpetuating their intellectual disability leaving them powerless to do anything but trust and follow.

I advocate the opposite. I think everyone is capable of intelligence, they just need to stop listening to people who try to classify intellectuals as the enemy and start learning how to think like an intellectual.

Of course the challenge is daunting because learning how to think isn't as easy nor does it appeal to the emotions that drive us as much as jumping on a bandwagon does.

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Sep 29, 2019 11:38:41   #
Singularity
 
straightUp wrote:
This is a description of a stereotype. Do all intellectuals fall into this stereotype? No. In fact the strongest challenges to intellectuals are from other intellectuals. This is because intellectuals have the capacity to argue, but its frustrating for non-intellectuals who don't. For these people, it becomes a matter of who they trust which is something that is easily exploited, something that religious and political authorities have been doing throughout human history.

So a population of non-intellectuals who can't think for themselves and therefore depend on trusting the thoughts of others winds up being an opportunity for others to misguide them. Paul Johnson is one of those opportunists and if he can discredit intellectuals in the minds of the unthinking, then he essentially perpetuating their intellectual disability leaving them powerless to do anything but trust and follow.

I advocate the opposite. I think everyone is capable of intelligence, they just need to stop listening to people who try to classify intellectuals as the enemy and start learning how to think like an intellectual.

Of course the challenge is daunting because learning how to think isn't as easy nor does it appeal to the emotions that drive us as much as jumping on a bandwagon does.
This is a description of a stereotype. Do all inte... (show quote)


Nice analysis.

Now prepare for incoming.......

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Sep 29, 2019 11:40:49   #
Seth
 
kemmer wrote:
For 35 years I’ve had 30+ children in my care and under my instruction 6 hours a day. That is quite sufficient, thanks.


That sounds like 30+ young minds being indoctrinated to grow up as the American wing of Komsomol or the Communist Youth.

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Sep 29, 2019 11:54:29   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Singularity wrote:
Nice analysis.

Now prepare for incoming.......


LOL - I know, right?

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Sep 29, 2019 12:05:12   #
Cuda2020
 
byronglimish wrote:
Intellectualism ultimately leads away from the creator.


That's because logic and reason is there first go to. You really can't get there through logic. Reason yes, we can reason ourselves into anything, logic...nope, it's at the complete other end of the spectrum and I don't mean that in any way offensively, it's just the way of it.

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Sep 29, 2019 12:10:09   #
Dwight Logan
 
woodguru wrote:
They are way smarter and trickier than morons?


I recently had a psychologist give me an iq ytest. When it was over he told me that my iq was the same as Einstein's. I said ...and... He said that Einstein would not have to lie about his.

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Sep 29, 2019 12:15:32   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
That's because logic and reason is there first go to. You really can't get there through logic. Reason yes, we can reason ourselves into anything, logic...nope, it's at the complete other end of the spectrum and I don't mean that in any way offensively, it's just the way of it.


When the Creator brings prophecy to happen, is sure proof of His existence.

It takes identifying ancient nations as they are today.

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Sep 29, 2019 12:21:01   #
Iliamna1
 
That's because logic and reason is there first go to.

I think you meant 'their.' Otherwise that sentence makes little sense.

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Sep 29, 2019 12:24:40   #
Cuda2020
 
straightUp wrote:
This is a description of a stereotype. Do all intellectuals fall into this stereotype? No. In fact the strongest challenges to intellectuals are from other intellectuals. This is because intellectuals have the capacity to argue, but its frustrating for non-intellectuals who don't. For these people, it becomes a matter of who they trust which is something that is easily exploited, something that religious and political authorities have been doing throughout human history.

So a population of non-intellectuals who can't think for themselves and therefore depend on trusting the thoughts of others winds up being an opportunity for those others to misguide them. Paul Johnson is one of those opportunists and if he can discredit intellectuals in the minds of the unthinking, then he essentially perpetuating their intellectual disability leaving them powerless to do anything but trust and follow.

I advocate the opposite. I think everyone is capable of intelligence, they just need to stop listening to people who try to classify intellectuals as the enemy and start learning how to think like an intellectual.

Of course the challenge is daunting because learning how to think isn't as easy nor does it appeal to the emotions that drive us as much as jumping on a bandwagon does.
This is a description of a stereotype. Do all inte... (show quote)


I believe this explains the Trump die-hard followers, and why to get a civil debate is near impossible on here. Why they also are negative on public education, moving backward again to preferring only private institutions for the elite. Look at what is happening. This is not how we strengthen a free country it is how we suppress the people of a country. They are not trying to lift people up, their goal is to hold them down.

If they were for the betterment of the country, higher education would be offered for thr public. Other countries are gaining great strides ahead of us, we still have done nothing to improve our standard with the rest of the world.

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