OK! Who Still Doesn't Believe Trump Just Majorly Set-Up the Dems? (Page 9): Ahh but he is employed by the government, I'd say the President counts as the government. Even though he was...

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

peg w wrote:

I read the whistleblowers report. This is what struck me. He was a profesional.. Trump has been setting up the Ukraine to do this since January. Giuliani is in this up to his eyebrows. He has been doing some illlegsl diplomacy missions. Since he is not employed by the US government, he is breaking the law. A lot of people are implicated in this. At least a dozen. We shall see what happens

Ahh but he is employed by the government, I'd say the President counts as the government. Even though he was doing State Department business.

straightUp Loc: California

Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:

Ahh but he is employed by the government, I'd say the President counts as the government. Even though he was doing State Department business.

Guliani is not employed by the government. Technically, he is a private contractor. The crazy thing is Guliani is probably just the tip of the iceberg.

If you think the Democrats are hurting for things to get Trump on, you are way off the mark. If they wanted to they could bring Trumps entire cabinet into question because NONE of them have been confirmed by Congress which is a constitutional requirement. That puts ALL their activity under scrutiny and given the extent to which the Trump Administration has cut off Congress and ruled the country on executive orders alone... I'm betting high that some legal lines have been crossed.

straightUp Loc: California

Russian Boris wrote:

It will go down the same way as Russian collusion,... (show quote)

ahem... the wish department is down the hall.

Singularity

straightUp wrote:

Guliani is not employed by the government. Technic... (show quote)

So if they are not confirmed, are they legitimately in the line of succession?

pslates

I have been against Trump long before 2016 . He has had several failed marriages, no banks want to do business with him. And now he has failed as an illegitimate President. He lied and cheated through his whole life.I voted independent in 2016. Because of his involvement with Russian hacking in to our election system. I haven't decided on which way to vote in 2020. But a liar and a cheat. This Army Vet. Will not vote for him. I hope he does get impeached. For once he will have to take responsibility for his corruption.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Barracuda2020 wrote:

Your kidding, right? We find plenty of substantial evidence, unfortunately, the corrupt president hides and cowers under his executive "PRIVILEGE" as he is doing once again even though we have him recorded and him ADMITTING IT. And... it is YOU who lives in the past constantly talking about Obama and Hillary to ad nauseam, deflecting away from the inappropriate, unethical or unconstitutional actions of Trump. Get real for once.

He didn’t assert Executive Privilege. He released the transcripts already. Other phone calls he may assert E. P. and I wouldn’t blame him. He put calls on a highly classified encrypted server. He says because there have been numerous leaks about previous conversations with world leaders, which would make it harder to talk openly. The Democrats say he put calls on a classified server because he’s hiding something and these calls don’t fall under classified. Well guess what? The highest power in the land who can determine what’s classified and what’s not is the President. Now if we use the so called Democrats standards of malfeasance we know Biden is guilty. We don’t know as of now if Trump was guilty of anything. A higher up in the NSA already stated that other calls by Trump and other Presidents have been moved to classified servers.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

straightUp wrote:

Guliani is not employed by the government. Technic... (show quote)

How much you want to bet jackass? I’ll bet a grand, no indictments on Trumps side of the aisle. Lindajoy or Arch can hold it as far as I am concerned.

straightUp Loc: California

Singularity wrote:

So if they are not confirmed, are they legitimately in the line of succession?

That's a really good question. I want to say no on the assumption that the founders had substantial reason for making a confirmation process a constitutional requirement. But that's a snowflake of an idea in this swirling fire of rhetorical warfare and government dysfunction today.

straightUp Loc: California

JFlorio wrote:

How much you want to bet jackass?

careful there sweetheart. ;)

JFlorio wrote:

I’ll bet a grand, no indictments on Trumps side of the aisle. Lindajoy or Arch can hold it as far as I am concerned.

$1000? Any ideas how we can secure this bet while maintaining anonymity? Maybe we can sticky-post it and just call it a grand.

Just to be clear, we are talking about after he is no longer presiding over our republic, when he can no longer seek executive privilege. No limits on time. If it takes them 10 years, so be it.

Still interested?

Singularity

straightUp wrote:

That's a really good question. I want to say no on the assumption that the founders had substantial reason for making a confirmation process a constitutional requirement. But that's a snowflake of an idea in this swirling fire of rhetorical warfare and government dysfunction today.

I am told but have not confirmed that Congress could appoint and confirm a new Speaker of the House to relieve a cabinet member, if all down to and including the Speaker were taken out and it got down the line to cabinet members, the bias being for a person who was elected rather than appointed, I presume. That seems suspect to me as it would engender yet another possible administration change in a short period of time....

straightUp Loc: California

pslates wrote:

I have been against Trump long before 2016 . He ha... (show quote)

There is no reason why it can't happen. Even with a Senate confirmation being so unlikely for now, it won't always be. Technically, the POTUS is a life-long title. We have several presidents. It's just that we only have one sitting president at a time. So technically a president can be impeached 10 years after he leaves office. As a result he is striped of the title and all it's life-long privileges, including $400,000 per year - AND he can never run for public office again.

I think there is value in making an example of him. It's not often we get a president that makes it this easy.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

straightUp wrote:

$1000? Any ideas how we can secure this bet while maintaining anonymity? Maybe we can sticky-post it and just call it a grand.

Just to be clear, we are talking about after he is no longer presiding over our republic, when he can no longer seek executive privilege. No limits on time. If it takes them 10 years, so be it.

Still interested?

After he’s out of office a criminal conviction would have to be just on Trump.

Russian Boris

1)Universal Health care will be much more expensive ( tax) and much worth ( quality) then the one we’ve got now
2) $15 /hr is a bad idea because it kills small business and raises the price of the products
3)Free education is a no brainer,
We all be paying for it instead of the users.
4)”Rich” are moving this economy
No rich people, no progress.
Besides Dems will decide who is “rich” Beings tried before, fails all the time, sounds good though.
5) Restore the law? -you’ve got to be kidding.
Already forgot Clintons and pen and phone of Obama’s?

Big Kahuna

peg w wrote:

I read the whistleblowers report. This is what struck me. He was a profesional.. Trump has been setting up the Ukraine to do this since January. Giuliani is in this up to his eyebrows. He has been doing some illlegsl diplomacy missions. Since he is not employed by the US government, he is breaking the law. A lot of people are implicated in this. At least a dozen. We shall see what happens

Get pegged, peg.

Big Kahuna

rumitoid wrote:

Really? Nice prognostication. What do you have on Biden's son? From what I read that investigation was adjudicated. Very curious about it. Maybe this whole thing is going in the wrong direction in the media.

What do we have on Biden's son? Well for starters, he is a big time drug addict, he married his dead brothers wife, he made billions illegally in the Ukraine, he's a liar, a thief and a crook. Do you need anything else Hemorroid on Biden's son??