fullspinzoo

I've seen third graders or Loonwatch write better shit than that. Let me make a note ~ another delusional dreck to ignore. Sophomoric at best.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Whataboutism has nothing to do with it. This is a sting operation and you'll soon see I'm right.

Trump did nothing wrong but worded his call in a way that would cause the media and Dems to do what they did, speculate and falsely accuse, and Giuliani used the ensuing CNN interview with Cuomo to drop a bomb in the propagandist media they'd HAVE to talk about.

Trump and Giuliani are also not obliged to tell our enemies how they plan to bring them down.

Biden DID do something wrong...unless that video was one of those "deep fakes" *Obama, Schiff and some others have been publicly raising awareness about ().

Why do you think Trump keeps describing the call as "perfect"?

I'll tell you why.

1) He threatened Ukraine in no way. You can infer it if you want but that was by design. The principle involved needs to be large in public discourse until 2020.

2) The media and Dems did the predictable thing...they freaked and are obligingly talking about something they'd ordinarily avoid talking about.

3) Giuliani got Biden's name in the media in a pretty cool way.

4) Biden is one investigative hop to a lot of other folks...

5)...who are now squeaking loudly. I see the hag has entered the fray. Excellent! I expect she'll be the nominee in 2020.

6) The "whistleblower" is outed.

"Perfect" is a signal to us. Trump does speak in code. It's also a signal to the deep staters. Perfect is good for us and bad for them. You could say the word as Trump used it was ambiguous.

In February of this year Q specifically said look for the "whistleblower". Trump and the Patriots set up the set-uppers.

BTW, this wasn't the only call the guy blew the whistle on. We didn't hear about them, though.

I bet the Ukraine prez and Trump talked about this before they did it.

*Getting ahead of the story is what they're doing.

fullspinzoo

The HAG is now the new "corruption warrior". Wow, now that's rich!!!!!

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

I'm real and I'm telling you the truth. The louder they squeak the closer it is...and it's close.

"Declass brings down the House"

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

She has no choice but to run because she will use "political persecution" as a defense when she's charged for corruption, treason and everything else she's been doing since she got "blooded" by the Rothschild Cabal.

straightUp Loc: California

First of all, I want to applaud your effort to bring substance to this conversation. Pointing out this document is by far the most intelligent thing anyone on your side has offered. I haven't read the whole thing yet, but I read enough to notice a few things...

1. The document you linked to is actually not the treaty itself but a 1999 letter from President Clinton to the Senate asking them to consider the ratification of the treaty. This wasn't actually done until the following year.
2. When the Senate DID ratify the treaty they set some limitations including this proviso...

(2) Supremacy of the Constitution.- Nothing in this Treaty requires or authorizes legislation or other action by the United States of America that is prohibited by the Constitution of the United States as interpreted by the United States.

And the U.S.Constitution states in Article II, section 4 that...
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

Then there is the transcript of the conversation provided by the Trump administration itself that makes it very clear that Trump was indeed bribing president Zelenskyy into complying with his request.

In case you or anyone else needs help...

bribery: verb - to persuade (someone) to act in one's favor, typically illegally or dishonestly, by a gift of money or other inducement.

So... given the evidence... Trump bribed the president of Ukraine, which is a violation of the U.S.Constitution, which invalidates the treaty you apparently though was Trump's latest "Get out of Jail" card.

But seriously, thank you for at least challenging me.

Singularity

Wow. You still think Trump is playing 3D chess!?! More likely, he believes that is a bra size for precocious pageant contestants!

I hope he stupidly continues to implicate Pence, throwing him under the bus with his remaining cabinet so we get a twofer, since Mueller's findings were so unceremoniously shit-canned. Get them both out at the same time to prevent an untimely pardon.

I'm not keen on Pelosi for President, but I'd accept a sentient alien toe fungus over those two.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Liar.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Nope...I never believed he was playing 3d chess. He's playing 4d chess and he has help.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

That's what you'd get with Pelosi except for the sentient" part...but no worry.

Mewler's findings were shit-canned because they were shit.

straightUp Loc: California

OK, stop right there... Thousands of years of crime has taught us not to expect criminals to be obvious. This is why we have investigations. As the character Sherlock Holmes often illustrated, what we learn about crime is often revealed through active deduction, not passively waiting for criminals to make themselves obvious.

Of course Trump didn't make the threat to Zelenskyy obvious - he didn't need to. All he needed to do is remind Zelenskyy how generous the U.S. has been and that no one else (ie, Germany) is offering the same help, (which he did). The immediate segue into the request for a favor makes the conditions obvious enough for anyone to see... unless they don't WANT to see it - in which case, I suppose the only thing they have left to do is pretend crimes don't exist unless surrounded by neon signs and the criminal himself is selling tickets for all to see.

You folks need to stop trying to defend that piece of trash and start looking for someone else to represent you in the 2020 elections.

Singularity

I'm sure you will agree that, jokes aside, when there is a tense fluid, dynamic situation sometimes its best to watch and wait rather than risk saying something ignorant and unhelpful.

Perhaps we could pick up this conversation again once the apocalypse subsides?

straightUp Loc: California

What's the matter Mike..? Can't figure out how to respond to my logic? LOL

straightUp Loc: California

LOL - I've never actually seen a sentient alien toe fungus but it does sound far less repulsive than Trump or Pence.

Lonewolf

We haven't heard the call this was a transcript put together by the WH
Call itself I'm betting might be much different