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Sep 23, 2019 16:59:29   #
JediKnight
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Let's see it, put your money where your mouth is. You won't be able to because it's all bullshit you've bought and paid for, now you're trying to regurgitate back to us, well we're not buying,we know better and the real facts, you should try that some time, do the research without the propaganda and learn something.


BOOM! Very well said!

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Sep 23, 2019 17:02:23   #
JediKnight
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Of course you do! LOL!


Have patience my friend. Rome was not built in one day. Trump will face the music soon enough, and be cast away into the abyss where all evil roams. Sorry you picked the wrong horse.



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Sep 23, 2019 17:08:33   #
Seth
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Let's see it, put your money where your mouth is. You won't be able to because it's all bullshit you've bought and paid for, now you're trying to regurgitate back to us, well we're not buying,we know better and the real facts, you should try that some time, do the research without the propaganda and learn something.


The bottom line is that under the umbrella of, and with the cooperation of, the Obama Administration, 20% of our uranium reserves were sold to a Russian firm with ties to Putin's government, and the middleman firm was owned by the brother of Hillary's campaign manager, Podesta.

It boggles the mind that you lefties can totally deny or flat out ignore one Hillary crime or corrupt act after another, then applaud unending "investigations" of President Trump (we found nothing with this one so let's find something else to investigate) with no actual grounds that indicate a crime was even committed.

Pitiful, to say the least.

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Sep 23, 2019 17:15:39   #
Seth
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Your quote Historically, this is how the left turns a country into a cauldron of chaos and a social Tower of Babel with the intention of undermining the rule of law and the people's confidence in their system of government so the left can step in.

Now that is funny, it really is. Tell me which person has disparaged the good work of The FBI, the CIA, Intel and Secret Service, from Comey on down and how many other government officials? Constantly telling us how bad and corrupt they are and the bad jobs they are doing. We can even jump from homeland security to the EPA and not to trust them, but he'll put an oil lobbyist at the head of the department.

Totalitarian, I would take a long hard look at your own party for that, as they had it all under their thumb in for 2017 and 18, but then they lost big. But one could ask with that total control what did they really achieve in those two years? Yes, they did roll back a lot of Obama's positive changes, especially on the environment, but hopefully, that will all bite them in the ass in 2020. I'm looking forward to it.
Your quote Historically, this is how the left turn... (show quote)


3 November 2020. Mark your calendar, then decide the next four years' program of your loser leftist denial, whining and snivelling. 😎

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Sep 23, 2019 17:17:16   #
JediKnight
 
Seth wrote:
The bottom line is that under the umbrella of, and with the cooperation of, the Obama Administration, 20% of our uranium reserves were sold to a Russian firm with ties to Putin's government, and the middleman firm was owned by the brother of Hillary's campaign manager, Podesta.

It boggles the mind that you lefties can totally deny or flat out ignore one Hillary crime or corrupt act after another, then applaud unending "investigations" of President Trump (we found nothing with this one so let's find something else to investigate) with no actual grounds that indicate a crime was even committed.

Pitiful, to say the least.
The bottom line is that under the umbrella of, and... (show quote)


why do you keep leaving out that the uranium in question is from a company based in Canada that the Russians have controlling ownership in? The way you republicans spin this story to try and implicate Hillary is truly what's mind-boggling. Seth, are you just like Trump -incapable of telling the truth? pretty sad indeed.



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Sep 23, 2019 17:20:00   #
JediKnight
 
Seth wrote:
3 November 2020. Mark your calendar, then decide the next four years' program of your loser leftist denial, whining and snivelling. 😎


Apparently, truth is to Seth what kryptonite is to Superman. sad.



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Sep 23, 2019 17:30:57   #
Seth
 
JediKnight wrote:
Apparently, truth is to Seth what kryptonite is to Superman. sad.


Yeah, whatever, and if it isn't printed on a leftist bumper sticker or one of those phony memes you post, both of which some third grader probably has to read to you, there's likely nothing between your ears but the needles and poop found in abundance on the sidewalks of the broken cities your ilk presides over.

That said, I see no further reason to reply to your trolling. Have a nice day.

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Sep 23, 2019 17:31:23   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
JediKnight wrote:
It will not obscure that Trump begged Ukraine 8 times in one phone call to illegally investigate Biden. How can you support such a low-life weasel?




There is a report that the person who reported that doesn't exist.

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Sep 23, 2019 17:43:18   #
JediKnight
 
Seth wrote:
Yeah, whatever, and if it isn't printed on a leftist bumper sticker or one of those phony memes you post, both of which some third grader probably has to read to you, there's likely nothing between your ears but the needles and poop found in abundance on the sidewalks of the broken cities your ilk presides over.

That said, I see no further reason to reply to your trolling. Have a nice day.


Why Seth, you are offended? I'm shocked...shocked I say! Why is it that you can throw around all of your garbage supporting Trump, but when confronted with truth and factual evidence, you fold up like a cheap suit? Are Trump's lies starting to get to you? How about all the scandals, like begging Ukraine to investigate Biden for some non-existent crime - while Trump commits crime daily?
Seth, all of us make mistakes from time to time buddy. Don't let it sour you or keep you down. If you would just take off the republican blinders and the tin-foil hat, you can escape the fantasy world of republicans and come into the light of righteous justice. How about it buddy? Come on, you can do it....YES YOU CAN!



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Sep 23, 2019 17:55:36   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
JediKnight wrote:
Have patience my friend. Rome was not built in one day. Trump will face the music soon enough, and be cast away into the abyss where all evil roams. Sorry you picked the wrong horse.


I hear that if Trump is impeached, it will be a trial in front of the senate and anyone can be called as a witness. Anyone. Comey, McCabe, Obama, Strzok, etc, etc. I hope that go after him. Then, after months of proceedings exposing the lefts attempts to undermine a sitting American president, the senate will vote to keep Trump in office and the left will be fully exposed. Yum that sounds good!

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Sep 23, 2019 19:58:27   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
JediKnight wrote:
Why Seth, you are offended? I'm shocked...shocked I say! Why is it that you can throw around all of your garbage supporting Trump, but when confronted with truth and factual evidence, you fold up like a cheap suit? Are Trump's lies starting to get to you? How about all the scandals, like begging Ukraine to investigate Biden for some non-existent crime - while Trump commits crime daily?
Seth, all of us make mistakes from time to time buddy. Don't let it sour you or keep you down. If you would just take off the republican blinders and the tin-foil hat, you can escape the fantasy world of republicans and come into the light of righteous justice. How about it buddy? Come on, you can do it....YES YOU CAN!
Why Seth, you are offended? I'm shocked...shocked ... (show quote)



Well, I'm offended by this pack of lies. Every last Democratic accusation against Trump has been found to be lies. The Democrats and progressives are peddlers of hate. Every last one has a chip on his shoulder and almost every one hates America. At least Jimmie Carter loved this country.

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Sep 23, 2019 19:58:42   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Seth wrote:
First, on the pollution clean-up, you know what I meant.

Yes, I did. Even so, I'll point out that most countries can't clean up as much pollution as we do because they make as pollution as we do. *shrug*

Seth wrote:

As for your socialism reference, law enforcement, etc are not socialism, they are covered by taxes we are forced to pay as a matter of course -- government, whether local or federal, has a duty to at least half-assed protect the public.

...and that my friend *IS* socialism. Governments don't have ANY obligation at all. You're just so accustomed to the American socialism that takes care of it's people that you take it for granted. Even worse, we live at a time when capitalists are trying to privatize our socialist systems by flooding the lobbies and the media with anti-socialist rhetoric to the point where we don't even feel comfortable talking about it. And it's not just funding either, the public interest extends to decision making. Sherrifs for instance are elected by the people. For all practical purposes these departments are operated by the public and are therefore socialist in nature.

Fire departments used to be privately operated. If you paid a membership fee, they would come out and save your house from fire but if your neighbor wasn't a member, they would just watch his house burn down. That's how capitalism covers first response situations. Nothing wrong with capitalism per se but like a hammer, it's not ALWAYS the best tool for the job.

BTW, I noticed you didn't provide any indication of what you think socialism is. If you're going to say that something is NOT socialism, it's generally a good opportunity to say what you think socialism is.

Seth wrote:

That's just their constituents getting some sort of value for property and income taxes. In red states, they are doing a much better job of this than in blue ones, wherein are found cities like Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, Los Angeles and others where the politicians are as dangerous to the populace as muggers and gang bangers, as parasitical to the taxpayers as pickpockets.

Not necessarily their fault, it just goes, along with lying, projecting and undermining the rule of law, with being a leftist.
br That's just their constituents getting some so... (show quote)

yeah... I'm just going to skip the stuff where you're just spewing baseless opinions.

[quote=Seth]
And no, it's not the Republicans who don't want to work with the Democrats', it's the other way around. In fact, when the Dems snagged the majorities in both the House and Senate in 2006, Pelosi famously declared, "We have the majority now, we don't have to listen to you anymore!" Look it up, Google is your friend (especially if you're a leftie).

First of all, Pelosi was right... When you have a majority you technically don't have to listen, but I'm guessing her quote is taken out of context. I can easily see someone saying something like that as a dig, which wouldn't necessarily be a threat.

Secondly, I'm not referring to 2006. That was 13 years ago and despite what Pelosi said (or how you took it) bipartisanship was still working. I'm referring to the 112th Congress when the Children of the Corn took over the House and stoutly refused to cooperate with the president or the Senate as a matter of protest... to the point of shutting down the government. THAT was when bipartisanship stopped.

There's a big difference between the one tough-in-cheek quote that you're trying to make a mountain out of and a stated goal of noncooperation.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell actually stated this in the National Journal: β€œThe single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”
(didn't work - ha, ha!) The defiance in that Congress was unprecedented and it's been partisan ever since.

Seth wrote:

RINOs are not "old guard" conservatives, they are essentially left leaning politicians who misrepresent their politics by running as and "serving" as Republicans while supporting Democrat agendas. Typically, they vote with the Democrats on issues where their votes are needed by Republicans.

Nah, they're "old guard" conservatives. I'm familiar with the conservatives politics of the Reagan era. My dad was a Republican and so was I for 6 months. Reagan was my first vote. I saw those same values in Republicans like McCain. The new Republicans called him a RINO because he didn't shift right like they did.

I'm sure to you it looks like everyone else shifted left, but that's because of a little thing called relativity.

Seth wrote:

The left shows little respect for the freedom of speech of anyone who disagrees with them.

Another baseless charge... You're just full of them aren't you?

Seth wrote:

You don't see conservative groups shouting down "liberal" guest speakers at universities, for example, rioting or starting fires, with the blessings of left wing faculties.

...and MORE baseless charges.

Show me one single example of where a "left wing facility" (I assume you mean university) gave it's blessing to riots and fires. Seriously, the crap you people believe just blows my mind. I bet you actually think the Clintons are running a child prostitution ring in a pizza parlor. LOL

As for your prior comment... liberal speakers haven't been in the habit of preaching hate and invoking violence so there hasn't been a cause for a university to shut down a liberal speaker and the school will defend the first amendment rights of ANY speaker that doesn't pose a safety risk to the students, provided the school is run by liberals. If the school is run by conservatives you won't see any liberal speakers being shut down for a different reason... They just don't allow them in the first place.

Seth wrote:

You don't see conservatives actively boycotting businesses because they are owned by Democrats,

You don't see liberals boycotting businesses simply because they are owned by Republicans either.

Seth wrote:

Republicans kicking Democrats out of restaurants,

A reference to a business owner refusing to serve someone who made a career out of lying to the American people.

Seth wrote:

harrassing them in the streets or in their homes because if their politics

Actually, I have first hand, when my neighbor had a Prop 8 sign on his lawn (CA Prop 8 - an equality bill), It was stolen, so he replaced it and it was stolen again. Finally he caught three grown men getting out of their truck to steal his sign and he confronted them - in his own lawn. I heard the fuss and came out. By the time I got there four adults were screaming at each other. It was very easy to tell from the words they were liberal-haters. I told my wife to get my gun and she called the cops instead LOL.

Seth wrote:

or marauding around in masks, beating up old folks in the name of "anti-fascism."

That's another distortion. Yes, they've beat up some Nazis at their rallies, I guess in your narrative that translates to innocent old people. But they don't run people over in cars and kill them.

Yeah... did you forget that one?

Seth wrote:

I do not judge others, they judge themselves by the dogmas they follow and their respective versions of "the truth" as they relate them. 😎

You don't judge others? You should go back and read what you've posted. LOL

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Sep 23, 2019 20:00:49   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"So, are we done judging me?" - straightUp

Should we be? lololol


LOL - You'd be the last person I tell.

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Sep 23, 2019 20:09:55   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
The worst cases of destructive pollution and ecologic & nuclear disasters have come from socialist systems.

Soviet Socialist mismanagement gave us Chernobyl, the pollution of Lake Baikal (the deepest in the world) and the possible disappearance of the Aral sea. And don't forget Stalin's White Sea-Baltic Seas canal built with Gulag labor and became useless.

What air pollution is worse than the notorious situation in in Beijing?

Try to sue the governments.

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Sep 23, 2019 20:10:12   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
JediKnight wrote:
You must have missed the fact that Hillary was only one of NINE cabinet members that were required to approve the sale of 20% of our uranium to Russia. Since the other EIGHT agreed to the sale, why do you republicans keep trying to insist the blame should be Hillary's? Naw...don't think I'll be hiring you for any investigative work - you suck. No thanks!


LOL - Their suspension of disbelief is one of the most powerful forces in the universe. They can take a case like Uranium One, which at this point is documented in great detail and just sweep all the evidence aside and replace it with a conspiracy theory that defies logic.

I question the point of any of their arguments anymore... I mean I can still find decent conservatives and have rational conversations with them, but these alt-right bigots seem more concerned with venting their frustrations than making sense of anything.

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