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Market manupulation deniers.
Apr 6, 2014 08:08:17 #
Floyd Brown
Loc: Milwaukee WI
Patty wrote:
Your thinking is typical perversion of history. Maybe start with "The Untold History of America" and follow up with "A Peoples History of the United States." The truth will shock you.
And yet you find what is going on in Russia to be better.
Stand by your views on Russia as I will be standing on my views of the USA. History has shown that what the USA stands for while being far from where it could be is still a much better place to be from than Russia.
Have you not noticed how many have left Russia to come & live in the USA. Maybe your moving to Russia will prove me wrong.
Apr 6, 2014 08:20:10 #
Our history does not support your thinking. From the Pago Pago Islands where we built a naval station in 1890 and killed every man, woman and child under the age of 10 to the Annexation of Hawaii where Queen Liliuokalani made Sanford Dole President. You know the Dole Company?
To stealing Puerto Rico Guam and the Philippines.
Do you realize that our use of chemical weapons goes all the way back to the Civil War? By 1917 we had created 124,000 metric tons of 39 different toxic substances to kill anything that got in our way.
Now the banks run this country and with them killing their own how do you think that is going to work out for the common man.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-05/abn-amro-ex-ceo-found-dead
"Ever since World War II, US bankers hadnt worried too much about their supremacy being challenged by other international banks, which were still playing catch-up in terms of deposits, loans, and global customers. But by now the international banks had moved beyond postwar reconstructive pain and gained significant ground by trading with Cold War enemies of the United States. They were, in short, cutting into the global market that the US bankers had dominated by extending themselves into areas in which the US bankers were absent for US policy reasons. There was no such thing as enough of a market share in this game. As a result, US bankers had to take a longer, harder look at the shackles hampering their growth. To remain globally competitive, among other things, bankers sought to shatter post-Depression legislative barriers like Glass-Steagall. They wielded fear coated in shades of nationalism as a weapon: if US bankers became less competitive, then by extension the United States would become less powerful. The competition argument would remain dominant on Wall Street and in Washington for nearly three decades, until the separation of speculative and commercial banking that had been invoked by the Glass-Steagall Act would be no more."
This is not the country you seem to think it is.
To stealing Puerto Rico Guam and the Philippines.
Do you realize that our use of chemical weapons goes all the way back to the Civil War? By 1917 we had created 124,000 metric tons of 39 different toxic substances to kill anything that got in our way.
Now the banks run this country and with them killing their own how do you think that is going to work out for the common man.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-05/abn-amro-ex-ceo-found-dead
"Ever since World War II, US bankers hadnt worried too much about their supremacy being challenged by other international banks, which were still playing catch-up in terms of deposits, loans, and global customers. But by now the international banks had moved beyond postwar reconstructive pain and gained significant ground by trading with Cold War enemies of the United States. They were, in short, cutting into the global market that the US bankers had dominated by extending themselves into areas in which the US bankers were absent for US policy reasons. There was no such thing as enough of a market share in this game. As a result, US bankers had to take a longer, harder look at the shackles hampering their growth. To remain globally competitive, among other things, bankers sought to shatter post-Depression legislative barriers like Glass-Steagall. They wielded fear coated in shades of nationalism as a weapon: if US bankers became less competitive, then by extension the United States would become less powerful. The competition argument would remain dominant on Wall Street and in Washington for nearly three decades, until the separation of speculative and commercial banking that had been invoked by the Glass-Steagall Act would be no more."
This is not the country you seem to think it is.
Apr 6, 2014 08:34:56 #
Floyd Brown
Loc: Milwaukee WI
Patty wrote:
Our history does not support your thinking. From t... (show quote)
I will not deny these things happening.
But you are way off base if you will stand by & support Russia or China to be the better choice to run the world.
Apr 6, 2014 08:49:46 #
Where did I ever say that? Clearly I don't think anyone should be running the world. I have no delusions about Russia and China except through a lot of studying I can see that they are progressing out of failed communism while the US has passed socialism and is rapidly approaching communism.
I am a political separationist as directed by our founding fathers who direct us to keep our business to ourselves. Do you know that our first coinage had "Mind your business" written on it?
I am a political separationist as directed by our founding fathers who direct us to keep our business to ourselves. Do you know that our first coinage had "Mind your business" written on it?
Floyd Brown wrote:
I will not deny these things happening.
But you are way off base if you will stand by & support Russia or China to be the better choice to run the world.
But you are way off base if you will stand by & support Russia or China to be the better choice to run the world.
Apr 6, 2014 09:40:49 #
I don't understand why it was so important for the banks to do away with the 3-1/2% interest rate that I used to recieve on my savings account, before before the Industry could continue with their domination of the market.
That alone ruined my retirement fund, because when I followed the crowd into the stock markets to further my investments for the future I watched it disappear never to be seen again.
Please Explain?
That alone ruined my retirement fund, because when I followed the crowd into the stock markets to further my investments for the future I watched it disappear never to be seen again.
Please Explain?
Apr 6, 2014 09:59:11 #
The fed has dropped the interest rate to near zero to create the illusion that they are encouraging them to loan out money to stimulate the economy. If the banks cant make more than the .05% then they wont pay out 3.5% and take a lose. If the fed through QE wanted to encourage lending out the money and it wasn't just a cover to boost the banks balance sheets they wouldn't provide a safe .05% safe place to hide the money the fedas are throwing at them but they would have a slightly negative rate for holding those magic dollars that are devaluing the dollar. Everything has to line up with treasury bonds so that people don't dump bonds but the fed cant raise rates because of the debt and the manipulated inflation %'s they have made up to control COLA increses in SS payments. Can you image if they had to pay a normal 6% interest rate on 17 plus trillion dollars.
It also allows them to strip the people of their savings and keep them working since they have to spend what they have saved because they can no longer live on the interest from their savings. It is all a ploy to steal the peoples money and give it to the banks.
It also allows them to strip the people of their savings and keep them working since they have to spend what they have saved because they can no longer live on the interest from their savings. It is all a ploy to steal the peoples money and give it to the banks.
Weasel wrote:
I don't understand why it was so important for the banks to do away with the 3-1/2% interest rate that I used to recieve on my savings account, before before the Industry could continue with their domination of the market.
That alone ruined my retirement fund, because when I followed the crowd into the stock markets to further my investments for the future I watched it disappear never to be seen again.
Please Explain?
That alone ruined my retirement fund, because when I followed the crowd into the stock markets to further my investments for the future I watched it disappear never to be seen again.
Please Explain?
Apr 6, 2014 09:59:59 #
Floyd Brown wrote:
Fear & reason at play here.
Fear that the world is going to fall apart & having gold will save you.
Reason is that it is in trust of each other being fair & just can we truly have a sound system of money.
As our trust in others rises & falls so does the value of gold.
Fear that the world is going to fall apart & having gold will save you.
Reason is that it is in trust of each other being fair & just can we truly have a sound system of money.
As our trust in others rises & falls so does the value of gold.
Makes you wonder about the interests who perpetuate the fear
Check out topic: Inflation is eating away at middle-class!
Apr 6, 2014 10:02:14 #
How in the world can our President possibly tell us , not to worry about the HIGH FREQUENCY TRADERS in the stock market, and in the same breath turn around and say that what these HFT's are doing is morally wrong?
I am sorry but I have heard that before.
FOOL ME ONCE- SHAME ON ME. FOOL ME TWICE SHAME ON YOU..
I'm not falling for it this time.
What's In Your Wallet ? (They Want That Too)
I am sorry but I have heard that before.
FOOL ME ONCE- SHAME ON ME. FOOL ME TWICE SHAME ON YOU..
I'm not falling for it this time.
What's In Your Wallet ? (They Want That Too)
Apr 6, 2014 10:06:55 #
maelstrom wrote:
Makes you wonder about the interests who perpetuate the fear
The fear right now is in Washington. They know the US D held as world reserve currency is failing and they think they can continue to force the use of the petrol dollar. The government understands the value of gold and the fact that it is out of their control. The new currency will have to be based on something other than the failed dollar and the only global money that has worked over the last 5000 years is gold. That is why Russia is now selling oil and gas in Rubles and gold and China is accumulating massive amounts of giold.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-16/petrodollar-petrogold-us-now-trying-cut-irans-access-gold
Apr 6, 2014 10:28:38 #
Apr 6, 2014 10:31:52 #
ginnyt wrote:
My money advisor, who has worked with my family for years, has the impression that the economy will not stay flat, therefore he is advising me to increase my portfolio in commodities and put an extra $1M into my daughter (Duckie) future. I think that, because he has never lost money for me, that I will go with his advice.
She is a "fortunate one". Speaking with her on this forum you have an "exceptional one." She speaks with proficiency and clarity which is attributed to her being your daughter. I am sure you are very proud of her.
Apr 6, 2014 10:31:54 #
This is going to be a critical week for the Market. We have to pause for a moment, and see what happens or we will loose everything again!
The market will still be there when we get back, and probably will be a little bit safer for us little guys. Just don't fall for the Bull#¤§£¥.
IT's called cooking the frog slowly.
As tiny as our shares are, The Big Guys can't do anything without us in the big picture. Think about it.
The market will still be there when we get back, and probably will be a little bit safer for us little guys. Just don't fall for the Bull#¤§£¥.
IT's called cooking the frog slowly.
As tiny as our shares are, The Big Guys can't do anything without us in the big picture. Think about it.
Apr 6, 2014 10:33:48 #
This is exactly what is happening now and Paul called it 2 years ago as an indicator to watch for. The average life span of any fiat currency historically is 40 years. Nixon abandoned the gold standard in 73 so we are a year of the average.
"The chaos that one day will ensue from our 35-year experiment with worldwide fiat money will require a return to money of real value. We will know that day is approaching when oil-producing countries demand gold, or its equivalent, for their oil rather than dollars or euros. The sooner the better." ~ Ron Paul
The US in now slowly entering its hyperinflationary phase. Food prices are already up 19% in the first three months of 2014. On an annualized basis that is 76% which is a clear sign that hyperinflation is already starting....
What Ron Paul is referring to here is the petrodollar system. It's one of the main pillars that's been holding up the US dollar's status as the world's premier reserve currency since the breakdown of Bretton Woods.
Paul is essentially saying that, if we want to better understand the answer to the elusive question of "When will the fiat US dollar collapse?", we have to watch the petrodollar system and the factors affecting it."
"The chaos that one day will ensue from our 35-year experiment with worldwide fiat money will require a return to money of real value. We will know that day is approaching when oil-producing countries demand gold, or its equivalent, for their oil rather than dollars or euros. The sooner the better." ~ Ron Paul
The US in now slowly entering its hyperinflationary phase. Food prices are already up 19% in the first three months of 2014. On an annualized basis that is 76% which is a clear sign that hyperinflation is already starting....
What Ron Paul is referring to here is the petrodollar system. It's one of the main pillars that's been holding up the US dollar's status as the world's premier reserve currency since the breakdown of Bretton Woods.
Paul is essentially saying that, if we want to better understand the answer to the elusive question of "When will the fiat US dollar collapse?", we have to watch the petrodollar system and the factors affecting it."
Apr 7, 2014 19:02:20 #
OK! After today's so called (Ruckess On Wall Street) I think we are getting our point across. A 166 point drop because of High Frequency Traders, has again been brought to the attention of our SOUP-PREAM-LEADER,Who continues to say it is nothing to worry about. Ha-Ha.
The other 7 countries of the world are putting their 2 cents in, and they do not like it. I expect things to really heat up tomorrow, so choose wisely and watct for the silver lining.
WHAT'S IN YOUR WALLET? Get ready to fill it up with premium...
The other 7 countries of the world are putting their 2 cents in, and they do not like it. I expect things to really heat up tomorrow, so choose wisely and watct for the silver lining.
WHAT'S IN YOUR WALLET? Get ready to fill it up with premium...
Apr 8, 2014 01:29:28 #
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