Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois

Was Jesus a Socialist?
Lawrence Reed ~ July 06, 2019

Did Jesus support socialism? Do the teachings of Jesus Christ condemn the accumulation of wealth while pushing for the equal distribution of resources? Lawrence Reed, president of the Foundation for Economic Education, explains the misconceptions surrounding one of history’s greatest figures.

https://www.prageru.com/video/was-jesus-a-socialist/

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God is God. He is beyond question, and must never be associated with human being that he created.
God is everything, and perfect.

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

"And each man will sit under his own vine and under his own fig tree, with no one to frighten him. For the mouth of the LORD of Hosts has spoken." (Micah 4:4)

Classic capitalism, Parky60.

Capitalism is an economic system in which capital goods are owned by private individuals or businesses.

Furthermore, God has said,

"I have no need for a bull from your stall or goats from your pens, for every beast of the forest is Mine— the cattle on a thousand hills." (Psalm 50:10)


2 Thessalonians 3:10

For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat.


Ephesians 4:28

Let the thief no longer steal, but rather let him labor, doing honest work with his own hands, so that he may have something to share with anyone in need.


1 Timothy 5:8

But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.


Genesis 2:15

The Lord God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to work it and keep it.


1 Thessalonians 4:11

And to aspire to live quietly, and to mind your own affairs, and to work with your hands, as we instructed you,

Trooper745 Loc: Carolina

Jesus wasn't a socialist, .... he never supported greed, hypocrisy or class-ism, ... the true corner stones of socialism.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Good question. Quick answer: No.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

My favorite passages regarding this issue is the parable of workers in the vineyard from Matthew. At the end of the day, the vineyard owner pays the last workers first and the same amount as those who worked the whole day. They grumble.

He then tells them that he has done them no harm. They agreed to work for an amount & he paid them that amount. Further, he says it's his money to do as he pleases with.

And it is his money to do as he pleases with. It's called the free market & should NOT be called capitalism, a pejorative term used by Lenin.

That transfers the onus to the progressives because theirs is an unfree market; enslavement. That is what interested them; enslavement of all mankind to their whims.

How about that; socialism as slavery?

bahmer

Amen and Amen very good Zemirah thanks for adding those.

Carol Kelly

Amen.

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

My first thought was that within socialism, the state controls everything, and nowhere has God advocated that for the government.

bahmer

Amen and Amen

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Actually, nowhere has God advocated for any government!

Yeah, think about it...

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

Actually, God instituted government for men.

The sacredness of human life is established. Since man is made in the image of God, one who commits murder shows not only contempt for man but also contempt for God (Gen 9:5).
Whatever sheds man's blood, whether man or beast, must be put to death. This is seen as the institution of human self-government (Gen 9:6).

Romans 13:1-2 "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which is from God. The authorities that exist have been appointed by God. Consequently, the one who resists authority is opposing what God has set in place, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves."

Cross References:

Proverbs 8:15 "By Me - They rule their kingdoms wisely and justly, by My counsel and assistance. Their injustice is from themselves, but all the good they do, they owe to My conduct. By Me, kings reign, and rulers enact just laws;

Proverbs 24:21
My son, fear the LORD and the king, and do not associate with the rebellious.

Daniel 2:21
He changes the times and seasons; He removes kings and establishes them. He gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to the discerning.

Daniel 4:17
This decision is the decree of the watchers, the verdict declared by the holy ones, so that the living will know that the Most High is ruler over the kingdom of mankind, and gives it to whom He wishes, setting over it the lowliest of men.'

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

I agree that socialism is slavery, whereas in 2nd Corinthians 3:17. "And where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty"

- which may be understood of the third person in the Godhead; the Holy Spirit, where He is as a spirit of illumination, there is freedom from former blindness and darkness; where He is as a spirit of regeneration and sanctification, there is freedom from the bondage of sin against our fellow men.

This proves that socialism is as godless as Communism, for neither are capable of recognizing God's grace.

The first group of workers in the vineyard resented receiving the same wage as the last group.

Their attitude was similar to that of the Pharisees, who were incensed at Jesus' teaching that others could inherit a heavenly kingdom they thought was reserved for them alone.

I have always associated this teaching with those lifelong Christians who consider it unfair that a deathbed conversion could result in the same benefits for that person's soul, as they receive, after spending their life's work in God's vineyard laboring to bring in other souls for God's harvest.

They forget Ephesians 1:7 and Ephesians 2:7-8:

"In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace.

"In order that in the coming ages He might display the surpassing riches of His grace, demonstrated by His kindness to us in Christ Jesus.

"For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, not by works, so that no one can boast."

Ricktloml

Very informative video. Of course Jesus was not a socialist. The left has to lie and twist everything, it's their nature. And the left rejected God, and Jesus Christ a long time ago, it's a little late to try and co-opt Jesus now.