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Jul 8, 2019 12:18:15   #
kemmer
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Did you ask them? No? Why not? Maybe you'll find the answer you seek. You won't like it, but just maybe you'll find it.

I see you’re having one your “vague” days.

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Jul 8, 2019 12:22:36   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
kemmer wrote:
I see you’re having one your “vague” days.

Only to you. Crystal clear to anyone else watching. Some things never change.

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Jul 8, 2019 12:32:47   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Never 'argue' religion. There's no real 'proof' either way. There's no way to win an argument you can't prove empirically, so why bother?


I have to disagree with that. That's like saying the Constitution isn't worth defending.

People twist scriptures just like they twist the law. To suit themselves. I can't know every law on the books because they are always making new laws and I'm not a judge or a lawyer. That's why I always vote for who I believe is the most sincere and honest person with a backbone, but you can never really know or understand another person fully even when you're married to them or sired them.

People you've known and loved all your life can suddenly and completely turn on you for legit or frivolous reasons. The only thing that gives me comfort is the scriptures. One day all will be set right. My job is to put God first and love others as myself. All the law hangs on these two Commandments. The Ten Commandments are not suggestions, no one has kept them all their lives except one person. That's why Jesus was the perfect sacrifice for the world's sin problem. He came as the suffering Messiah and will return as the Lion of Judah with an iron rod.

I don't care what the Pope, rabbi's, or any pastor says that is different. They are just mere men like me and my opinion is just as valid as theirs. I think that makes me who I am. Each person is responsible for their own actions. I can't atone for their sins and they can't atone for mine. Evil leaders and people suffer. Righteous leaders and they are blessed.

I won't murder to get my land back but I will go to my death before I give the government another dollar that murders a baby. That's a personal decision and on me. Break into my home, let me catch you raping a person and I'll kill you graveyard dead. That's just me and I'll face the repercussions with my head up and unashamed.

The bottom line is life is all about the choices you make and don't make. I chose Jesus. If I'm wrong I'm wrong but I don't think I'm wrong and that's not going to change. Torture me and I may say I deny Him but in my heart, I never will. I've never been tested that severely, so I don't know if I'm that strong. But He who lives within me promises to be with me. I trust that promise.

I don't force anyone to believe as I do. Persuade yes, force no. If you have to use force, you have already lost the battle for hearts and minds. I'm not a bully and I'm not a wimp, I'm a Christian and an American and I'll never be perfect on this side of eternity.

Creation proves there is a God even without the Bible. It also proves He loves us all. I sometimes wish I was never born. Heaven or hell, it doesn't get heavier than that. But, if I make it to Heaven it's worth all the pain and suffering. Death is just a door that says times up, turn in your test papers for grading. Just my opinion.

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Jul 8, 2019 12:47:36   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Peewee wrote:
I have to disagree with that. That's like saying the Constitution isn't worth defending.

I never said it was undefendable. I said that you cannot win a religious argument because there is no empirical evidence either way to win one with. I make no distinction between religious views when I say that, it just... Is.

As for comparing religious tenets with the constitution, there's no comparison. The Constitution is a document written "in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity".

Consider Christianity. There is no preamble to the Holy Bible. Without an 'introduction', how can you understand its purpose? Did you know that there are zero references to Jesus outside the Holy Scriptures? Not a single historical record of his time on this Earth exists outside the New Testament. Does that mean it's all a fantasy? Of course not, but it's the Dickens to prove! That's my point about arguing religion.

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Jul 8, 2019 13:37:14   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
I never said it was undefendable. I said that you cannot win a religious argument because there is no empirical evidence either way to win one with. I make no distinction between religious views when I say that, it just... Is.

As for comparing religious tenets with the constitution, there's no comparison. The Constitution is a document written "in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity".

Consider Christianity. There is no preamble to the Holy Bible. Without an 'introduction', how can you understand its purpose? Did you know that there are zero references to Jesus outside the Holy Scriptures? Not a single historical record of his time on this Earth exists outside the New Testament. Does that mean it's all a fantasy? Of course not, but it's the Dickens to prove! That's my point about arguing religion.
I never said it was undefendable. I said that you... (show quote)


Not true. Ever heard of Josephus. A Jewish historian who worked for Ceasar. The thickest book with the smallest print I've ever tried to read. There are more things written about Jesus within 100 years of His death than exist of Julias Ceasar today. Nice try, no cigar. As to no introduction, if one was needed it would have been included. The Bible is a supernatural book. No other book like it on Earth. What makes it different from all other religious text is prophecy. It's full of it and many have come to pass. Has any other nation been scatted to the four corners of the globe, lost their language, and been restored with their land and language? And that's just one example. There are hundreds and most match Jewish feast days. I forget the number but many have been completed since 1948 and in one week Jesus completed a lot of them that were predicted 2,000 years earlier to the day, the hour, and the feast day. The Torah is the first five books of the Bible. You need a Hebrew Torah to find this. Every 49th or 50th letter spells TORAH in Hebrew in both Genesis an Exodus, nothing in Leviticus (the law), then in Numbers and Deuteronomy, it spells TORAH every 49 or 50th letter in reverse. It's like bookends pointing to the Law - Leviticus. Can you write a book with a hidden message like that and have it make sense at a surface level? No one else can either. I have a few more if you're really interested.

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Jul 8, 2019 15:51:12   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Peewee wrote:
Not true. Ever heard of Josephus. A Jewish historian who worked for Ceasar. The thickest book with the smallest print I've ever tried to read. There are more things written about Jesus within 100 years of His death than exist of Julias Ceasar today. Nice try, no cigar. As to no introduction, if one was needed it would have been included. The Bible is a supernatural book. No other book like it on Earth. What makes it different from all other religious text is prophecy. It's full of it and many have come to pass. Has any other nation been scatted to the four corners of the globe, lost their language, and been restored with their land and language? And that's just one example. There are hundreds and most match Jewish feast days. I forget the number but many have been completed since 1948 and in one week Jesus completed a lot of them that were predicted 2,000 years earlier to the day, the hour, and the feast day. The Torah is the first five books of the Bible. You need a Hebrew Torah to find this. Every 49th or 50th letter spells TORAH in Hebrew in both Genesis an Exodus, nothing in Leviticus (the law), then in Numbers and Deuteronomy, it spells TORAH every 49 or 50th letter in reverse. It's like bookends pointing to the Law - Leviticus. Can you write a book with a hidden message like that and have it make sense at a surface level? No one else can either. I have a few more if you're really interested.
Not true. Ever heard of Josephus. A Jewish histori... (show quote)

Okay, Uncle. I give. Have it your way.

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Jul 8, 2019 16:21:25   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Okay, Uncle. I give. Have it your way.


It's not my way, it's the truth.

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Jul 8, 2019 16:26:53   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Peewee wrote:
It's not my way, it's the truth.

Just got to have that last word, don't you?

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Jul 8, 2019 16:33:20   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Just got to have that last word, don't you?


Meanwhile, we anxiously await the last word. Anyone?

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Jul 8, 2019 16:37:46   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Meanwhile, we anxiously await the last word. Anyone?

Was that the last word? Anyone?

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Jul 8, 2019 16:55:18   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Was that the last word? Anyone?


I'll take "Amen" for 100.00 Alex.

Sorry, the devil made me do that.

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Jul 9, 2019 00:13:21   #
GmanTerry
 
The Wells Fargo of Germany. Another massively crooked bank.

Semper Fi

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Jul 9, 2019 00:52:43   #
kemmer
 
Peewee wrote:
...Every 49th or 50th letter spells TORAH in Hebrew in both Genesis an Exodus, nothing in Leviticus (the law), then in Numbers and Deuteronomy, it spells TORAH every 49 or 50th letter in reverse. It's like bookends pointing to the Law - Leviticus. Can you write a book with a hidden message like that and have it make sense at a surface level? No one else can either. I have a few more if you're really interested.

When one gets into ephemera like this, with all kinds of secret messages supposedly hidden in the words, the whole thing turns into a bust. This was written by men who specialized in writing what God SHOULD have said.

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Jul 9, 2019 01:53:20   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
kemmer wrote:
When one gets into ephemera like this, with all kinds of secret messages supposedly hidden in the words, the whole thing turns into a bust. This was written by men who specialized in writing what God SHOULD have said.


Whoops! And... we are on again!

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