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Jun 22, 2019 20:16:12   #
Phantom one
 
Because you need a brain to think and I'm pretty sure that most of theirs is missing or warped.

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Jun 22, 2019 20:21:25   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Phantom one wrote:
Because you need a brain to think and I'm pretty sure that most of theirs is missing or warped.


Hello,Phantom one...Please use Quote Reply so we know who you are responding to...

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Jun 23, 2019 07:50:33   #
Morgan
 
jim_shipley wrote:
Famous Presidential Lies Contest



Written by, To The Point News



LBJ:

None of our boys will die on foreign soil

Nixon:

I am not a crook

GHW Bush:

Read my lips - No New Taxes

Clinton:

I did not have sex with that woman... Miss Lewinski

GW Bush:

Iraq has weapons of mass destruction

Obama:

I will have the most transparent administration in history.

The stimulus will fund shovel-ready jobs.

I am focused like a laser on creating jobs.

The IRS is not targeting anyone.

Itwas a spontaneous riot about a movie.

I will put an end to the type of politics that "breeds division, conflict and cynicism".

You didn't build that!

I will restore trust in Government.

The Cambridge cops acted stupidly.

The public will have 5 days to look at every bill that lands on my desk

It's not my red line - it is the world's red line.

Whistle blowers will be protected in my administration.

We got back every dime we used to rescue the banks and auto companies, with interest.

I am not spying on American citizens.

Obama Care will be good for America.

You can keep your family doctor.

Premiums will be lowered by $2500.

If you like it, you can keep your current healthcare plan.

It's just like shopping at Amazon.

I knew nothing about "Fast and Furious" gunrunning to Mexican drug cartels.

I knew nothing about IRS targeting conservative groups.

I knew nothing about what happened in Benghazi.

I have never known my uncle from Kenya who is in the country illegally and that was arrested and told to leave the country over 20 years ago.

And, I have never lived with that uncle. He finally admitted (12-05-2013) that he DID know his uncle and that he DID live with him.

If elected I promise not to renew the Patriot Act.

If elected I will end the war in Iraq and Afghanistan within the 1st 9 months of my term.

I will close Guantanamo within the first 6 months of my term.

I will bridge the gap between black and white and between America and other countries.

And the biggest one of all:

“I, Barrack Hussein Obama, pledge to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.”

I believe we have a winner
Famous Presidential Lies Contest br br br br W... (show quote)


I see you very conveniently left out the King liar, the Trumpet, but we would need pages and pages, I believe there is your winner.

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Jun 23, 2019 08:02:14   #
Morgan
 
slatten49 wrote:
Yes, clearly we do...

https://www.cheatsheet.com/culture/did-donald-trump-or-barack-obama-tell-more-lies.html/

Excerpt summary: So who has told more lies: Barack Obama or Donald Trump?

Both presidents have told lies. But one seems to have told more lies than the other. Politifact reports that 15% of the statements by Donald Trump that it evaluated qualified as “pants on fire” level lies. Conversely, the publication found that just 2% of the Barack Obama statements that it fact-checked qualified as “pants on fire” lies. For both presidents, that’s only the lies that Politifact found were “pants on fire” false, not including statements that were just “false,” even “mostly false,” or only “half true.”

Similarly, The New York Times catalogued the lies told by Barack Obama and Donald Trump. “We applied the same conservative standard to Obama and Trump, counting only demonstrably and substantially false statements,” the Times noted. The result? The Times found that Trump often says “whatever helps him make the case he’s trying to make. In his first 10 months in office, he has told 103 separate untruths, many of them repeatedly. Obama told 18 over his entire eight-year tenure. That’s an average of about two a year for Obama and about 124 a year for Trump.”
Yes, clearly we do... br br https://www.cheatshee... (show quote)



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Jun 23, 2019 12:18:17   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
JohnCorrespondent wrote:
"Democrats have no vision"? Compared to what? Republicans' vision? Which is what? Money, military might, and pride?

Health care for all. That's a vision. Greatly reduced role for health insurance companies. Green New Deal. These are visions. Even if you think the Green New Deal won't work or is foolhardy, it's definitely visionary and bold and a much needed attempt to fill a huge gap in our country's planning. The contrast with the visible Republican attitude about ecology is stark. In that topic area, at least, some Democrats have a vision, while some Republicans have a willful blindness and scorn for visions. Of course this does not describe all Republicans nor all Democrats but it is what they are putting out into the news for the public to see. Democrats in general want to be seen as ecological while Republicans want to be seen as ... ... (I'm thinking) ... hard-nosed practical people and scornful of any "Democrat" ideas. The hard-nosed and scornful parts of that are true: they are those things.

Republicans' vision, as I see it, is ethnocentric and xenophobic, and will make us less safe in the world because the U.S. will be perceived as a bully because it is. And perceived as ignorant, because it is. I'll be alright. But my children and their children (if any) will likely be worse off under Republicans' vision's effects.

Ethnocentricity and xenophobia are stifling and depressing and feel very unfair to me. By superficial appearance I'm about as typical a U.S. American as one can get: western-European American appearance, middle class financial status, born here, parents and grandparents born here, raised in a little farming community in the middle of the U.S. I was miserable because my peers at age 14 didn't see me as one of them.

I was too different.

I didn't know why or how or what was the difference.

I did try to fit in. I "went out for football" even though I just about hated it. (It's a rite of passage for a lot of boys. In our school, boys who didn't go out for football were typically scorned, by other boys, as weak.)

And I worked on farms. (Almost all the other boys lived and worked on farms.)

Our family went to church the same way other folks did around there.

Maybe the difference was that my father was not a farmer (he was a storekeeper). All _their_ fathers were farmers.

Or it may have had something to do with my father's education (I think he had a better formal education than most people did; and he had always read a lot.) Maybe people saw that as different from themselves, or even felt threatened by it. Once I heard my father blame himself for his children's difficulties with school peers; he said it was because the town didn't like _him_. But it wasn't everybody; but it could have been more than 25% of them I suppose, who "didn't like him". (This was a town of 200 people according to the census.)

What the class leader _said_ to me was "We don't want you! You're too smart for us! You belong in a special school or something." And he didn't leave it at that, either. If he had just left me alone I might have survived intact but instead he arranged group scenes to show me up. It was very alienating.

That's what it's like to live in a society which doesn't see beyond ethnocentrism and xenophobia.

In such a society, if you want to get along, you don't ask questions like "what is socialism" or "what's the difference between socialism and communism" nor say "please define capitalism" or draw a distinction between socialism and dictatorship. And don't question religion either. You're supposed to have already absorbed the same notions and attitudes as everybody else has. It is a prescribed existence, without much room for variation. The rules are unwritten and you just have to know them intuitively because you grew up there.

It is possible to get along; I feel sure of it; one would have to conform; and not just conform, but do it so well that the others cannot smell any difference.

As soon as I got out into the wider world I was much better off. Too bad I didn't escape sooner. But escape wasn't on my mind; I felt I had to be tough enough to stick with where I was. Finally at age 18 it was the time to move on anyway because that's when most people went away to college. So I could leave without being labeled a coward who ran.

I was going to counter a few other things you said (virtually all of them in your short post) but this is probably long enough for this time.
"Democrats have no vision"? Compared to... (show quote)


I’m a bit confused here.. If I may, are you saying because you were an educated Democrat you and your father were scorned by the township that were all Republicans??

What you endured by that teacher was a travesty and I wonder if it has carried forward in your dislike of republicans??

Democrat or Republican affiliation is a joke anymore.. Regardless of supposed affiliation neither are truly worthy of our recognition..

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Jun 23, 2019 12:22:42   #
bahmer
 
lindajoy wrote:
I’m a bit confused here.. If I may, are you saying because you were an educated Democrat you and your father were scorned by the township that were all Republicans??

What you endured by that teacher was a travesty and I wonder if it has carried forward in your dislike of republicans??

Democrat or Republican affiliation is a joke anymore.. Regardless of supposed affiliation neither are truly worthy of our recognition..


Amen and Amen

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Jun 23, 2019 12:40:27   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
WAde Bartlett wrote:
My reply is simple. Trump was not my 1st choice he was about my 4 the choice.
As A republican I talked to a republican yesterday my thoughts are he should keep his mouth shut he is doing what they want him to do. He will continue to brag on himself etc. etc.
Now I will vote for Trump in 2020.
The democratic platform is repulsive.,
#1 they believe they we should accept killing unborn babies.
Reading this week Hillary said something about it was not her fault she lost the election it was every bodies fault but hers.
The democratic party is going more and more to socialism. That rules me out.
For 2 years the democrats have only one thing in mind and that is to do anything to get rid of Trump.
It is sad they spend all day every day to impeach Trump instead doing something for the Country.
My reply is simple. Trump was not my 1st choice he... (show quote)


Amen, Wade!!

The amazing part is Trump continues to succeed in spite of them..

Why they prefer to live in all their hate and division is beyond me.. It is also no better with the RINOs that support such endeavors as well..You would think we are better than this and I do believe we are.. But damn that optimism is hard to find in this place filled with such negativity..

A beautiful sunny, 58* outside.. Off to enjoy it..

See how cold it is today..🙃🙂
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Jun 23, 2019 12:52:39   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
JohnCorrespondent wrote:


Ethnocentricity and xenophobia are stifling and depressing and feel very unfair to me. By superficial appearance I'm about as typical a U.S. American as one can get: western-European American appearance, middle class financial status, born here, parents and grandparents born here, raised in a little farming community in the middle of the U.S. I was miserable because my peers at age 14 didn't see me as one of them.

I was too different.

I didn't know why or how or what was the difference.

I did try to fit in. I "went out for football" even though I just about hated it. (It's a rite of passage for a lot of boys. In our school, boys who didn't go out for football were typically scorned, by other boys, as weak.)

And I worked on farms. (Almost all the other boys lived and worked on farms.)

Our family went to church the same way other folks did around there.

Maybe the difference was that my father was not a farmer (he was a storekeeper). All _their_ fathers were farmers.

br br Ethnocentricity and xenophobia are stifli... (show quote)




You were long winded and hard to reply in one setting !

I'm curious as to how you were different being different wasn't a problem in the small community I was raised in and I wasn't in the in crowd which didn't bother me nor did I try to be in that crowd I marched to a different drummer as they say !

What yrs are you talking about ?

In High School I had two guys who started picking on me but they quit when I stood up to them and they never bothered me again I found out early on bullies were cowards !

It didn't matter to any of the boys I went to school with if one played in football , baseball or what ever I never played sports as I had a bad knee and could run for very long .

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Jun 23, 2019 14:59:33   #
jim_shipley
 
At 18 you wish everything was free but when when you get olderand you start paying for all that free stuff attitudes change very quickley. Nothing is really free some one has to pay you just do not want it to be you. That is what socialism is all about.

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Jun 23, 2019 15:29:45   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
jim_shipley wrote:
At 18 you wish everything was free but when when you get olderand you start paying for all that free stuff attitudes change very quickley. Nothing is really free some one has to pay you just do not want it to be you. That is what socialism is all about.


"At 18 you wish everything was free but when when you get olderand you start paying for all that free stuff attitudes change very quickley. Nothing is really free some one has to pay you just do not want it to be you. That is what socialism is all about."

Yep! Some Democrats never grow up.

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Jun 23, 2019 16:24:50   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
neosandy wrote:
I didn't write this but I could have. I'll never understand anyone putting party before country. Or being able to totally ignore the ethical bankruptcy of a leader in the highest office. I don't care what party folks are in this behaviour is not only unethical ,it's criminal and depraved as well. Helen Keller could see it from a mile away but what bothers me most
is that my that my 11 yr old son can see it too and leaders are supposed to set good examples. I wish they would at least keep their debauchery on the down low as opposed to bragging about it.
IMHO "stupid" was a nice dream a long time ago.
Anyway, I'm sorry I know the following may offend some of you however it's beyond nauseating to me and besides it needs to be said. Daily if necessary



An anguished question from a Trump supporter: "Why do liberals think Trump supporters are stupid?"

The serious answer: Here’s what we really think about Trump supporters - the rich, the poor, the malignant and the innocently well-meaning, the ones who think and the ones who don't...

That when you saw a man who had owned a fraudulent University, intent on scamming poor people, you thought "Fine."

That when you saw a man who had made it his business practice to stiff his creditors, you said, "Okay."

That when you heard him proudly brag about his own history of sexual abuse, you said, "No problem."

That when he made up stories about seeing muslim-Americans in the thousands cheering the destruction of the World Trade Center, you said, "Not an issue."

That when you saw him brag that he could shoot a man on Fifth Avenue and you wouldn't care, you chirped, "He sure knows me."

That when you heard him illustrate his own character by telling that cute story about the elderly guest bleeding on the floor at his country club, the story about how he turned his back and how it was all an imposition on him, you said, "That's cool!"

That when you saw him mock the disabled, you thought it was the funniest thing you ever saw.

That when you heard him brag that he doesn't read books, you said, "Well, who has time?"

That when the Central Park Five were compensated as innocent men convicted of a crime they didn't commit, and he angrily said that they should still be in prison, you said, "That makes sense."

That when you heard him tell his supporters to beat up protesters and that he would hire attorneys, you thought, "Yes!"

That when you heard him tell one rally to confiscate a man's coat before throwing him out into the freezing cold, you said, "What a great guy!"

That you have watched the parade of neo-Nazis and white supremacists with whom he curries favor, while refusing to condemn outright Nazis, and you have said, "Thumbs up!"

That you hear him unable to talk to foreign dignitaries without insulting their countries and demanding that they praise his electoral win, you said, "That's the way I want my President to be."

That you have watched him remove expertise from all layers of government in favor of people who make money off of eliminating protections in the industries they're supposed to be regulating and you have said, "What a genius!"

That you have heard him continue to profit from his businesses, in part by leveraging his position as President, to the point of overcharging the Secret Service for space in the properties he owns, and you have said, "That's smart!"

That you have heard him say that it was difficult to help Puerto Rico because it was the middle of water and you have said, "That makes sense."

That you have seen him start fights with every country from Canada to New Zealand while praising Russia and quote, "falling in love" with the dictator of North Korea, and you have said, "That's statesmanship!"

That Trump separated children from their families and put them in cages, managed to lose track of 1500 kids. has opened a tent city incarceration camp in the desert in Texas - he explains that they’re just “animals” - and you say, “well, ok then.”

That you have witnessed all the thousand and one other manifestations of corruption and low moral character and outright animalistic rudeness and contempt for you, the working American voter, and you still show up grinning and wearing your MAGA hats and threatening to beat up anybody who says otherwise.

What you don't get, Trump supporters in 2018, is that succumbing to frustration and thinking of you as stupid may be wrong and unhelpful, but it's also...hear me...charitable.

Because if you're NOT stupid, we must turn to other explanations, and most of them are *less* flattering.

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Trump supporters beware;
How Ron Paul Was Cheated Out Of Presidency
Ron Paul's crowds were like Trump's crowds.
https://youtu.be/si4GaQWmdrQ

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Jun 24, 2019 16:31:52   #
JohnCorrespondent
 
Seth wrote:
I believe it's a balance, actually; naturally, I believe in doing what I think is "good," but at the same time I try to examine the ramifications of the deed. As an individual citizen, it's not that difficult, you jump into a physical bullying situation, you administer CPR to a cardiac arrest victim on the street or in a restaurant, you donate to a charity or cause you believe in, you give some money to an elderly homeless person...

...but on the context of the government doing "good things," it usually involves a long term commitment on the taxpayer's dime, and as often as not this commitment is not well thought out because the politicians involved are just that, politicians, most of whom (and here it seems it is mostly Democrats) think only of the politics of the moment rather than any permanent dependencies their "good things" are going to cause, the ever-expanding bureaucracies they may create, complete with pensions, on the back of the taxpayer, the public safety and Homeland Security concerns that might develop as a result of these "good things" or the effect these "good things" may have on the economy, such as will they result in massive employment downsizing, inflation or recession?

The Democrats seem to view the taxpayer as a walking, talking ATM, there to revisit whenever one of the "good things" to which they commit us becomes increasingly more expensive, and private sector businesses are fair game as well.

Perhaps that's why it has long been a regular habit of those on the left, from the Democratic Party as a whole to the more socialist oriented among them, to refer to Corporate America® as an evil, greedy and ruthless entity while omitting the fact that it also keeps most of the working public in jobs and makes mega-donations to a wide variety of charities: it's much easier to tax them into oblivion when the public perceives them as, well, evil, greedy and ruthless.

To sum up, when the people we entrust to do "the right thing" with our money make any kind of commitment, it needs to be well thought out, from the near term to the long term.

Dr. Thomas Sowell would ask three questions:

A. What for?
B. Compared to what?
C. At what cost?
I believe it's a balance, actually; naturally, I b... (show quote)


1.:

Some things are better done by government and some things are better done by private enterprise.

So one may ask: which things are better done by gov't?

2.:

Government and private enterprise each have a way to be held accountable.

Here, one question is "how is each held accountable?"

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Jun 24, 2019 16:42:32   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
JohnCorrespondent wrote:
1.:

Some things are better done by government and some things are better done by private enterprise.

So one may ask: which things are better done by gov't?

2.:

Government and private enterprise each have a way to be held accountable.

Here, one question is "how is each held accountable?"


Private enterprise will either succeed, or fail.

Government isn't accountable. They screw up, and say "Oops! Dang! We need more money."

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Jun 24, 2019 16:58:09   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
archie bunker wrote:
Private enterprise will either succeed, or fail.

Government isn't accountable. They screw up, and say "Oops! Dang! We need more money."


Just take a look at our Illinory government we are getting screwed over big time more and more taxes and not one word of cutting spending and we must keep the government Unions coffers full to running over !

No balanced budget in 19 years !

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Jun 24, 2019 17:02:37   #
bahmer
 
4430 wrote:
Just take a look at our Illinory government we are getting screwed over big time more and more taxes and not one word of cutting spending and we must keep the government Unions coffers full to running over !

No balanced budget in 19 years !


With total democrat control it won't happen either. Pritzker won't change anything either. They fought Bruce Rauner all the time that he was governor and now they have one of their own in the governor seat.

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