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Jun 1, 2019 08:06:05   #
zillaorange
 
permafrost wrote:
How pathetic can you people get???

You repost some lie from 2013 while the orange dip stick is looting our nation and you think this Lie is a topic of interest??

Un****beleivable!!!


?????????????????????????????? Read your own highlighted line !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL OF IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Jun 1, 2019 09:44:54   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
That a big part of the double standard this country has.




Gatsby wrote:
You constantly call President Trump a Liar, thus refuting your own argument.

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Jun 1, 2019 10:40:48   #
F.D.R.
 
valkyrierider wrote:
This is finally coming out about his real birthplace. His Kenya birth certificate is in the article. Worth reading. But now comes all the bullcrap from the left. Let it come from the dummies that won't believe


https://thejinnandtonic.wordpress.com/2013/10/14/obamas-occidental-college-transcripts-indonesian-national-islamic-religion/?fbclid=IwAR2eqP4yQ7WSI-zzcykqhCFD9h5VoKYCMK1_jUiyZKRGYfd6mb81zJ6XWSc

Well, that's all well and good. However, even if his presidency is annulled we can't annul the damage he did.

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Jun 1, 2019 10:59:36   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
This will effect those democrats whom are not ultra liberal, those with no party and will put all democrats on notice. All democrats did not like many of the things he did, only those whom are ultra liberal.



F.D.R. wrote:
Well, that's all well and good. However, even if his presidency is annulled we can't annul the damage he did.

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Jun 1, 2019 11:03:48   #
Cuda2020
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Yes, it is a well known FACT that Obama WAS born in Hawaii and NOT in Kenya, but for the sake of argument, let's say he WAS born in Kenya, what difference would that make? He would STILL be a natural born citizen under our Constitution because his mother was a U.S. citizen and therefore he was qualified to run for president, as per the letter of the law of our Constitution. The only CITIZENSHIP requirement to qualify to run for president in our Constitution is that they be a natural born citizen, he was one so what is these nut jobs' point? So even if he was born in Kenya, he was still our official president because he was still a natural born citizen.
Yes, it is a well known FACT that Obama WAS born i... (show quote)


Yes I’m aware of that fact but glad you pointed it out. Not to mention the scrutiny that takes place to assure the person elected will pass all requirements to do so, it is a ridiculous, as you say a moot point.

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Jun 1, 2019 11:07:08   #
Cuda2020
 
bahmer wrote:
I took the Hillsdale College Course on the Constitution and they defined that phrase natural born citizen as one who has both parents as American Citizens as being a natural born citizen. Much like if you have a German Shepherd and Poodle breed does not make it a German Shepherd it would be a mixed breed only a dog that had both the father and mother being German Shepherd would be a natural born German Shepherd. A natural born citizen is also having both parents as citizens of the US. They were afraid of any dual loyalty to be in the president of the US and wanted US loyalty only. It is true that if a person has one American Citizen parent they will also be an American citizen but not a Natural Born US Citizen and that is the difference between the two.
I took the Hillsdale College Course on the Constit... (show quote)


The way it is today, all one has to do is be born on our soil, if you are away, only one parent needed to be a citizen.

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Jun 1, 2019 11:09:15   #
Cuda2020
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Source: https://harvardlawreview.org/2015/03/on-the-meaning-of-natural-born-citizen/


The law of the land disagrees with you but you are the one that is right, eh Bahmer? There is none so blind as those who refuse to see. You can lead a fool to information, but you can't make them think.


Very true

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Jun 1, 2019 11:35:17   #
bahmer
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
The way it is today, all one has to do is be born on our soil, if you are away, only one parent needed to be a citizen.


That is how Obama got elected now isn't it?

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Jun 1, 2019 11:56:43   #
bahmer
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
The way it is today, all one has to do is be born on our soil, if you are away, only one parent needed to be a citizen.


Maybe you can dissect this and make it more clear for those on OPP that are of the liberal bend. The natural born citizen clause came about by the early fathers of America being familiar with Blackburn and what he wrote about in England.

The main authority for the original meaning of "natural born" is William Blackstone, in his Commentaries on the Laws of England, Volume II, edited by St. George Tucker, a Founder, published in 1803, especially Chapter 10:

As to the qualifications of members to sit at this board: any natural born subject of England is capable of being a member of the privy council; taking the proper oaths for security of the government, and the test for security of the church. But, in order to prevent any persons under foreign attachments from insinuating themselves into this important trust, as happened in the reign of king William in many instances, it is enacted by the act of settlement,l that no person born out of the dominions of the crown of England, unless born of English parents, even though naturalized by parliament, shall be capable of being of the privy council.

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Jun 1, 2019 12:17:31   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
slatten49 wrote:
I believe Liberty Tree summed it up nicely with his statement from above..."If one is unwavering in their determination not to believe something, then no evidence will convince them."


TRue that works both ways! Fake confirmation and lies don’t make it true! Leftist articles are leftist articles! Still don’t get no collusion even though facts released! Just sayin!

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Jun 1, 2019 12:35:21   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
valkyrierider wrote:
This is finally coming out about his real birthplace. His Kenya birth certificate is in the article. Worth reading. But now comes all the bullcrap from the left. Let it come from the dummies that won't believe

https://thejinnandtonic.wordpress.com/2013/10/14/obamas-occidental-college-transcripts-indonesian-national-islamic-religion/?fbclid=IwAR2eqP4yQ7WSI-zzcykqhCFD9h5VoKYCMK1_jUiyZKRGYfd6mb81zJ6XWSc

Okay, great. There's nothing new here. Remember this?

https://thejinnandtonic.wordpress.com/2013/06/24/whistle-blower-comes-forward-attests-to-attorney-that-obamas-financial-aid-state-his-citizenship-indonesian-aid-given-to-obama-as-a-foreign-student/

Or this?

https://thejinnandtonic.wordpress.com/2013/12/10/arab-broadcast-in-2006-we-will-have-a-muslim-in-the-white-house-by-2008/

It's accepted fact among rational, sane circles that Obama is a foreign born entity, was then, and always will be. Even Hillary Clinton raised the point in 2008 during the Democratic primaries (actually, I think she started the whole thing). So what do you propose to do about it?

That so-called 'long form birth certificate' he released has been shown to be a complete fabrication by some very respectable forensic detectives in Maricopa county, AZ. That didn't change anything either.

Think about it.

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Jun 1, 2019 12:56:30   #
Cuda2020
 
valkyrierider wrote:
Only if both parents is an American citizen.


A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) of the INA provided the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen, is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.) The U.S. citizen parent must be the genetic or the gestational parent and the legal parent of the child under local law at the time and place of the child’s birth to transmit U.S. citizenship.

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Jun 1, 2019 13:01:38   #
Cuda2020
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Okay, great. There's nothing new here. Remember this?

https://thejinnandtonic.wordpress.com/2013/06/24/whistle-blower-comes-forward-attests-to-attorney-that-obamas-financial-aid-state-his-citizenship-indonesian-aid-given-to-obama-as-a-foreign-student/

Or this?


https://thejinnandtonic.wordpress.com/2013/12/10/arab-broadcast-in-2006-we-will-have-a-muslim-in-the-white-house-by-2008/

It's accepted fact among rational, sane circles that Obama is a foreign born entity, was then, and always will be. Even Hillary Clinton raised the point in 2008 during the Democratic primaries (actually, I think she started the whole thing). So what do you propose to do about it?

That so-called 'long form birth certificate' he released has been shown to be a complete fabrication by some very respectable forensic detectives in Maricopa county, AZ. That didn't change anything either.

Think about it.
Okay, great. There's nothing new here. Remember ... (show quote)



Those are not the rational sane circles, just the Obama hating delusionalists.

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Jun 1, 2019 13:20:52   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) of the INA provided the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen, is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.) The U.S. citizen parent must be the genetic or the gestational parent and the legal parent of the child under local law at the time and place of the child’s birth to transmit U.S. citizenship.
A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and... (show quote)


Excellent! You have successfully educated us all in one of the situations under which a United states Citizen may be born. Now, please refer to the phrase 'natural born citizen' and compare that to what you have provided here..

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Jun 1, 2019 13:23:47   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
slatten49 wrote:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/09/fulbright-scholarships-for-indonesian-undergrads/

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/bookmarks/fact-checking-and-debunking/the-debunkers-guide-to-obama-conspiracy-theories/



Slatten, all of the following are what I have read about Barack H. Obama's background.

I have read numerous times on the internet, that access to Barack H. Obama's undergraduate record at Occidental was blocked. I can remember no publication of it.

Wayne Allen Root, Libertarian Party nominee for vice-president was a student a year before or after Obama was at Columbia. They were both poli-sci majors and he stated that he doesn't remember him. Reporters couldn't find anyone who knew him.

There usually is a scurry among reporters to find out interesting things about presidential candidates. Access to his grammar school records in Indonesia, both Catholic school and Indonesian public school was blocked. What did he learn there? What was taught?

I had a classmate at NYU who loathed the fact that he'd have to settle for a degree from there. In both freshman and sophomre years, he tried to tranfer to an Ivy school & both years he was rejected. He went on the Phi Beta Kappa. What was Obama's record at Occidental that merited his transfer to Columbia?

That is just the beginning of the questions that have been raised about his background.

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