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May 28, 2019 19:18:10   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
We saved the Japanese people and set them free.



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May 28, 2019 19:35:05   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Like I said, have it your way.
Japan was never a lucrative trade partner of the United States, but the Europeans were. FDR imposed embargoes on oil and steel shipments to Japan to hold them in check while he focused on his "Hitler first" policies.

I suggest you read At Dawn We Slept then consider your options.

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May 28, 2019 19:38:44   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
We saved the Japanese people and set them free.
We saved them from themselves. The Japanese militarists butchered the Bushido Code and convinced the entire Japanese population, including children, to fight to the death.

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May 28, 2019 21:15:56   #
Iliamna1
 
According to my father, who was a pilot during WW II, the Japanese had sharpened untold numbers of spears for the expected American invasion. They were armed and prepared to fight to the last man, woman and child. The only thing that saved millions of lives was the atomic bomb, which quickly ended the war in the east and also helped Truman focus on the European front.

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May 28, 2019 21:24:44   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
According to my father, who was a pilot during WW II, the Japanese had sharpened untold numbers of spears for the expected American invasion. They were armed and prepared to fight to the last man, woman and child. The only thing that saved millions of lives was the atomic bomb, which quickly ended the war in the east and also helped Truman focus on the European front.

Um, actually, Germany surrendered first. The Japanese surrender was the last act of WWII. There was no 'European front' at that time, just a shattered continent full of very hungry and homeless people.

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May 28, 2019 21:46:51   #
Iliamna1
 
The last about Truman was my assumption. Sorry about that.

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May 28, 2019 23:02:44   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
I never said anything different. You clearly misread what I wrote. I said the Japanese were goaded into attacking. I did not say that the decision was made for them. My point is that President Roosevelt saw an opportunity to overcome the severe economic problems being experienced by every single American whether young, old, rich or poor. Government spending into weapons of war and the formation of vast armies produced full employment and then some while the best and bravest were sent to foreign shores to fight and die 'for freedom', and they volunteered by the millions because of "a day that will live in infamy". It was set up to go down like that and the Japanese government took the bait; hook, line and sinker.
I never said anything different. You clearly misr... (show quote)


I suppose the Japanese were goaded into attacking China, and the Phillippines and all their other targets in Asia. Their list of war crimes makes the Nazis look like pikers.

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May 28, 2019 23:10:18   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
I suppose the Japanese were goaded into attacking China, and the Phillippines and all their other targets in Asia. Their list of war crimes makes the Nazis look like pikers.
The Rape of Nanking was the worst.

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May 28, 2019 23:13:53   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
The Rape of Nanking was the worst.


No... Their camps in Manchuria... Where they experimented and butchered untold numbers are by far the worst....

Nanjing was a spat of rape, looting and butchery in comparison...

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May 28, 2019 23:22:05   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
No... Their camps in Manchuria... Where they experimented and butchered untold numbers are by far the worst....

Nanjing was a spat of rape, looting and butchery in comparison...


Out of curiousity, do the Chinese still loathe Japan?

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May 28, 2019 23:27:11   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
Out of curiousity, do the Chinese still loathe Japan?
Hai!

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May 28, 2019 23:27:31   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
Out of curiousity, do the Chinese still loathe Japan?


Loathe? No...

Despise and hate...Yes...

Every time one of the Japanese PM's goes to visit a shrine dedicated to a war criminal and honor the deeds of those sick bastards the entire country goes insane...

I love that the SK government erected a monument to "comfort women" outside the Japanese embassy in Seoul...

There are times when it is not safe to be Japanese in China... Scary...

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May 29, 2019 01:28:25   #
Ricktloml
 
lindajoy wrote:
Whatever the fundamental differences are we nevertheless owe much gratitude to our fallen.. Righteously marching on or scammed into a war these men did not think of money or it being a good or bad decision!! They simply went and gave the ultimate..

This is what this day is about~~ not it being right or wrong as the history books relate but rather the human life sacrifices made so we may all be free!!

Honor them!!


Well said!

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May 29, 2019 04:23:49   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Loathe? No...

Despise and hate...Yes...

Every time one of the Japanese PM's goes to visit a shrine dedicated to a war criminal and honor the deeds of those sick bastards the entire country goes insane...

I love that the SK government erected a monument to "comfort women" outside the Japanese embassy in Seoul...

There are times when it is not safe to be Japanese in China... Scary...


I have to say the Japanese brought it on themselves. Anyone who thinks the US is racist should become familiar with Japan.

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May 29, 2019 04:29:12   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
I have to say the Japanese brought it on themselves. Anyone who thinks the US is racist should become familiar with Japan.


Yep...

Most of Asia actually...

The Chinese are Horrid racists... But they don't consider it a fault

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