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Apr 19, 2019 22:49:42   #
Carol Kelly
 
proud republican wrote:
They will try to Impeach him on their perception of "Obstruction of Justice"


There was no obstruction of justice. The Dems called the firing of Comey, who was a traitor, obstruction. That’s nonsense. Rod Rosenstein advised Trump to fire him. He was in Hilary’s pocket all along.

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Apr 19, 2019 22:51:33   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Seth wrote:
On the other hand, both being from the same place, they could well be on the same page. Couple that with Republican majorities in both the House and Senate, and it might well be like having our own political version of an Abrams tank.


As long as Paul Ryan isn't the Speaker of the House, perhaps.
But it may be the only Abrams tank vulnerable to raysiss and bigot an misogynist and islamaphobe.
Any Republican other than Trump withers and surrenders under those accusations.

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Apr 20, 2019 01:03:59   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
proud republican wrote:

Thank you Tom...So do you think that Senate will convict President Trump???
Liberty Tree wrote:
Not unless something much bigger than what we know now comes out.
A POTUS can face impeachment ONLY on the basis of something he did WHILE IN OFFICE. The CONUS spells out the reasons as treason and high crimes and misdemeanors.

It may come as a shock to lib progs that until a nominee is sworn into office on inauguration day, he remains a private citizen. As a candidate in the primaries, as the presumptive nominee, throughout his presidential campaign, and as President-elect, he remains a private citizen.

Impeachment is entirely a constitutional political process, it is not within the jurisdiction of the DOJ or the Judicial branch of government, other than that the Chief Justice serves as the judge during the trial in the senate. IOW, impeachment is not tried in a criminal court.

In our American system of justice someone accused of a crime is innocent until proven guilty. And to be accused of a crime, a crime must have been committed. Simply thinking about committing a crime, or conspiring with others to commit a crime, is not a crime. Only when the thoughts of committing a crime or a conspiracy to do so actually leads to commission of a crime does it become a chargeable criminal offense.

I ask myself every day, how many lib prog pull toys out there have thought about assassinating or the death of our president? They can think or talk about it with others, consider it, ponder it, even plan it, but they cannot be accused or charged with with an assassination if they never carry it out. I have no doubt that thoughts and dreams of assassination or that someone will take one for the team and assassinate President Trump has crossed the minds or dominates the minds of many liberal insects.

Death threats are a matter for concern and must be investigated if LE deems the threat credible. Likely 99.9% of all death threats are just emotionally charged fantasies. A perusal of all anti-Trump social networks- Twitter, Facebook, and the like--would confirm this. I've read the comments posted under youtube videos and many tweets. The vile despicable desires to kill Trump are posted daily. And still, these thousands of pathological malcontents have committed no crime. President Trump is still alive and kicking ass.

So, we come to the fundamental question: What impeachable crime has President Trump committed?

The opening broadside against him was accusations of collusion with foreign entities to influence the election. Collusion was originally the sole charge against him. And this leads to the next question.

If the Mueller investigation found no evidence of collusion, then when did Mueller know this and why didn't he say something? No doubt he would have spoken up had they confirmed collusion occurred, but the fact he found no evidence of collusion whatsoever yet remained silent until his report came out surely tells us much about him and his hit squad.

Volume 2 of the Mueller report focuses on obstruction of justice. From what I have seen of it so far, there are a number of instances where President Trump considered firing Mueller and Rosenstein, possibly others, he talked about doing so, considered it, even recommended it as the proper course of action. BUT, neither he nor anyone else on his staff with authority to do so acted upon it, did they? He (they) committed no crime.

But wait, would exercising his constitutional authority to fire anyone in the Executive Branch actually be obstruction of justice? Insane liberals thought so when, upon Rosenstein's recommendation, he fired Comey.

So, let's get real and throw every trumped up charge against Trump in the deplorable lib prog basket and face the real crime he committed that drove the liberals further into insanity--he defeated Hillary Clinton.

Can I get an Amen?

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Apr 20, 2019 07:32:12   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
A POTUS can face impeachment ONLY on the basis of something he did WHILE IN OFFICE. The CONUS spells out the reasons as treason and high crimes and misdemeanors.

Very good. Now tell me, who gets to decide what 'high crimes and misdemeanors' means?

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Apr 20, 2019 07:35:09   #
son of witless
 
Seth wrote:
To sensible election results in 2020, 2022 and 2024. The Dems' finger is only on the pulse of their wealthy "progressive" donors, the useful idiots who support their every far left platform and their globalist "sponsors," so that hopefulness isn't all that far-fetched.
To sensible election results in 2020, 2022 and 202... (show quote)


I study history. I look for patterns. Sometimes patterns break, but was only temporary. 1988 was a break in the 8 year pattern of total reversal in Presidential elections. Trump partially won because it was our turn. 8 years of a Democrat in the Presidency gave Trump a better chance than Romney in 2012.

I think Trump has a good chance to win reelection because he survived Mueller, the Economy is good and he has only been in one term. We need to focus on that. We cannot get too far ahead. 2024 will likely go to some Democrat that none of us has even heard of. Hopefully we skunk the looney toons so bad that in 2024 the Democrat we get will be more of a semi sane sleezeball like Bill Clinton and not an outright Kommunist like Barry Obama.

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Apr 20, 2019 08:37:15   #
Seth
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
As long as Paul Ryan isn't the Speaker of the House, perhaps.
But it may be the only Abrams tank vulnerable to raysiss and bigot an misogynist and islamaphobe.
Any Republican other than Trump withers and surrenders under those accusations.


The farther away Paul RINO-- excuse me, Ryan -- is from the Republican Party, the better off the country is. He's not quite the weasel that Adam Schitt is, but he's a weasel nonetheless.

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Apr 20, 2019 08:43:56   #
Seth
 
son of witless wrote:
I study history. I look for patterns. Sometimes patterns break, but was only temporary. 1988 was a break in the 8 year pattern of total reversal in Presidential elections. Trump partially won because it was our turn. 8 years of a Democrat in the Presidency gave Trump a better chance than Romney in 2012.

I think Trump has a good chance to win reelection because he survived Mueller, the Economy is good and he has only been in one term. We need to focus on that. We cannot get too far ahead. 2024 will likely go to some Democrat that none of us has even heard of. Hopefully we skunk the looney toons so bad that in 2024 the Democrat we get will be more of a semi sane sleezeball like Bill Clinton and not an outright Kommunist like Barry Obama.
I study history. I look for patterns. Sometimes pa... (show quote)


That or we finish up President Trump's second term with the economy in top shape, the border/immigration under control and a Republican Congress who are all on the same page, and the Dems are still in the doghouse after Barr and the Trump DOJ have delivered some justice for the attempted coup.

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Apr 20, 2019 08:51:02   #
Seth
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
A POTUS can face impeachment ONLY on the basis of something he did WHILE IN OFFICE. The CONUS spells out the reasons as treason and high crimes and misdemeanors.

It may come as a shock to lib progs that until a nominee is sworn into office on inauguration day, he remains a private citizen. As a candidate in the primaries, as the presumptive nominee, throughout his presidential campaign, and as President-elect, he remains a private citizen.

Impeachment is entirely a constitutional political process, it is not within the jurisdiction of the DOJ or the Judicial branch of government, other than that the Chief Justice serves as the judge during the trial in the senate. IOW, impeachment is not tried in a criminal court.

In our American system of justice someone accused of a crime is innocent until proven guilty. And to be accused of a crime, a crime must have been committed. Simply thinking about committing a crime, or conspiring with others to commit a crime, is not a crime. Only when the thoughts of committing a crime or a conspiracy to do so actually leads to commission of a crime does it become a chargeable criminal offense.

I ask myself every day, how many lib prog pull toys out there have thought about assassinating or the death of our president? They can think or talk about it with others, consider it, ponder it, even plan it, but they cannot be accused or charged with with an assassination if they never carry it out. I have no doubt that thoughts and dreams of assassination or that someone will take one for the team and assassinate President Trump has crossed the minds or dominates the minds of many liberal insects.

Death threats are a matter for concern and must be investigated if LE deems the threat credible. Likely 99.9% of all death threats are just emotionally charged fantasies. A perusal of all anti-Trump social networks- Twitter, Facebook, and the like--would confirm this. I've read the comments posted under youtube videos and many tweets. The vile despicable desires to kill Trump are posted daily. And still, these thousands of pathological malcontents have committed no crime. President Trump is still alive and kicking ass.

So, we come to the fundamental question: What impeachable crime has President Trump committed?

The opening broadside against him was accusations of collusion with foreign entities to influence the election. Collusion was originally the sole charge against him. And this leads to the next question.

If the Mueller investigation found no evidence of collusion, then when did Mueller know this and why didn't he say something? No doubt he would have spoken up had they confirmed collusion occurred, but the fact he found no evidence of collusion whatsoever yet remained silent until his report came out surely tells us much about him and his hit squad.

Volume 2 of the Mueller report focuses on obstruction of justice. From what I have seen of it so far, there are a number of instances where President Trump considered firing Mueller and Rosenstein, possibly others, he talked about doing so, considered it, even recommended it as the proper course of action. BUT, neither he nor anyone else on his staff with authority to do so acted upon it, did they? He (they) committed no crime.

But wait, would exercising his constitutional authority to fire anyone in the Executive Branch actually be obstruction of justice? Insane liberals thought so when, upon Rosenstein's recommendation, he fired Comey.

So, let's get real and throw every trumped up charge against Trump in the deplorable lib prog basket and face the real crime he committed that drove the liberals further into insanity--he defeated Hillary Clinton.

Can I get an Amen?
A POTUS can face impeachment ONLY on the basis of ... (show quote)


-- "A - effin' - MEN!"

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Apr 20, 2019 09:05:44   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
A POTUS can face impeachment ONLY on the basis of something he did WHILE IN OFFICE. The CONUS spells out the reasons as treason and high crimes and misdemeanors.

It may come as a shock to lib progs that until a nominee is sworn into office on inauguration day, he remains a private citizen. As a candidate in the primaries, as the presumptive nominee, throughout his presidential campaign, and as President-elect, he remains a private citizen.

Impeachment is entirely a constitutional political process, it is not within the jurisdiction of the DOJ or the Judicial branch of government, other than that the Chief Justice serves as the judge during the trial in the senate. IOW, impeachment is not tried in a criminal court.

In our American system of justice someone accused of a crime is innocent until proven guilty. And to be accused of a crime, a crime must have been committed. Simply thinking about committing a crime, or conspiring with others to commit a crime, is not a crime. Only when the thoughts of committing a crime or a conspiracy to do so actually leads to commission of a crime does it become a chargeable criminal offense.

I ask myself every day, how many lib prog pull toys out there have thought about assassinating or the death of our president? They can think or talk about it with others, consider it, ponder it, even plan it, but they cannot be accused or charged with with an assassination if they never carry it out. I have no doubt that thoughts and dreams of assassination or that someone will take one for the team and assassinate President Trump has crossed the minds or dominates the minds of many liberal insects.

Death threats are a matter for concern and must be investigated if LE deems the threat credible. Likely 99.9% of all death threats are just emotionally charged fantasies. A perusal of all anti-Trump social networks- Twitter, Facebook, and the like--would confirm this. I've read the comments posted under youtube videos and many tweets. The vile despicable desires to kill Trump are posted daily. And still, these thousands of pathological malcontents have committed no crime. President Trump is still alive and kicking ass.

So, we come to the fundamental question: What impeachable crime has President Trump committed?

The opening broadside against him was accusations of collusion with foreign entities to influence the election. Collusion was originally the sole charge against him. And this leads to the next question.

If the Mueller investigation found no evidence of collusion, then when did Mueller know this and why didn't he say something? No doubt he would have spoken up had they confirmed collusion occurred, but the fact he found no evidence of collusion whatsoever yet remained silent until his report came out surely tells us much about him and his hit squad.

Volume 2 of the Mueller report focuses on obstruction of justice. From what I have seen of it so far, there are a number of instances where President Trump considered firing Mueller and Rosenstein, possibly others, he talked about doing so, considered it, even recommended it as the proper course of action. BUT, neither he nor anyone else on his staff with authority to do so acted upon it, did they? He (they) committed no crime.

But wait, would exercising his constitutional authority to fire anyone in the Executive Branch actually be obstruction of justice? Insane liberals thought so when, upon Rosenstein's recommendation, he fired Comey.

So, let's get real and throw every trumped up charge against Trump in the deplorable lib prog basket and face the real crime he committed that drove the liberals further into insanity--he defeated Hillary Clinton.

Can I get an Amen?
A POTUS can face impeachment ONLY on the basis of ... (show quote)


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Apr 20, 2019 09:16:15   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Seth wrote:
The farther away Paul RINO-- excuse me, Ryan -- is from the Republican Party, the better off the country is. He's not quite the weasel that Adam Schitt is, but he's a weasel nonetheless.


Paul RINO was more effective in stopping Trump than Pelosi or mueller.
So disappointing that it came from the one who could have helped Trump accomplish his agenda within the first two years. RINORYAN should be investigated for obstruction of Making America Great Again.

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Apr 20, 2019 09:22:42   #
Seth
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Paul RINO was more effective in stopping Trump than Pelosi or mueller.
So disappointing that it came from the one who could have helped Trump accomplish his agenda within the first two years. RINORYAN should be investigated for obstruction of Making America Great Again.




His leaving was his greatest contribution to America.

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Apr 20, 2019 09:37:52   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
RINORYAN should be investigated for obstruction of Making America Great Again.

ROFISLMFAO!

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Apr 20, 2019 10:52:04   #
son of witless
 
Seth wrote:
That or we finish up President Trump's second term with the economy in top shape, the border/immigration under control and a Republican Congress who are all on the same page, and the Dems are still in the doghouse after Barr and the Trump DOJ have delivered some justice for the attempted coup.


I seriously doubt it. Bush lost to Clinton and the economy was only in a slight downturn, he had won the first gulf war, and the 3 Reagan-Bush terms had rebuilt the military and the economy from the hapless peanut farmer. I still say America always gets tired of whatever she has and brings in the opposite, for good or bad.

Hillary was to be Obama 3, and instead America opted for a guy who had never run for office. The economy likely will go soft in Trump's second term. It happened to Bush. America generally gives each party 8 years and then pulls the plug. Carter was exceptionally bad to get one term, while the horrible Obama Presidency got two. And his economy totally sucked, but he could still blame Bush.

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Apr 20, 2019 11:01:53   #
Mikeyavelli
 
son of witless wrote:
I seriously doubt it. Bush lost to Clinton and the economy was only in a slight downturn, he had won the first gulf war, and the 3 Reagan-Bush terms had rebuilt the military and the economy from the hapless peanut farmer. I still say America always gets tired of whatever she has and brings in the opposite, for good or bad.

Hillary was to be Obama 3, and instead America opted for a guy who had never run for office. The economy likely will go soft in Trump's second term. It happened to Bush. America generally gives each party 8 years and then pulls the plug. Carter was exceptionally bad to get one term, while the horrible Obama Presidency got two. And his economy totally sucked, but he could still blame Bush.
I seriously doubt it. Bush lost to Clinton and the... (show quote)


Trump is going to win reelection. He possibly could prosecute and convict the Obama Clinton cabal. If that's successful, the Democrats are finished as a political party.
Something new will rise up, but Trump can get them all if only his prosecutors have the courage to prosecute a former first lady and two former presidents.

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Apr 20, 2019 11:13:29   #
biker99man
 
tommsteyer wrote:
but they'd never get the two thirds.
So dumbocrats and lying schitts may bring impeachment to pay their campaign debts but it will never get a conviction.

these so called public servants would rather embarrass the president even if they can't take him down. Little caring what it does to our global currency.

that's why Pelosi pleads no impeachment. The democrats would lose votes in every state.

a resulting in... Trump Administration 2.


NEVER forget that republicans lie too.

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