Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

I am also not an expert on Judaism...
But understand that they don't believe in the Trinity...
If that doesn't disqualify them from Believing in God then it should not disqualify Muslims either....

Nothing is impossible for God/Allah...
But that doesn't mean He has to do something...
The Christ mythos of Islam is quite fascinating... The doppleganger part especially so..
And he is regarded as the highest prophet (Although they give Mohammed far more actual respect than they give Jesus)

Rose42

"Through dialogue, these young men, precious to God, might come to see that the Christian view of Jesus is much earlier, more coherent, and better evidenced than the Muslim view of Jesus. They might come to see that Islam is built on much weaker foundations than Christianity. In turn, they might stop leading people away from Jesus and instead become evangelists for the gospel. It happened to me, and it can happen to them. "

The late Nabeel Qureshi

https://www.premier.org.uk/Topics/Church/Apologetics/The-convert-Why-I-left-Islam-to-follow-Jesus

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Funny thing that, electronics and water...

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

And?

Rose42

Merely pointing out that islam's view of Christ actually leads them away from Christ and away from salvation.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Ok... I don't think anyone could argue that viewpoint... Unless they were a Muslim

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

My Apple IPhone survived a swim...
Wife was trying to take a picture in the lake..
Who rests a phone on the side of a kayak

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Um, your wife?

Mikeyavelli

Larry, they're Canadian...

maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee

Hey, Kyle! I'm having some technical glitches on OPP, so did you get the photos I sent?

What I have read says that Alla was a moon god before Muhammad, do you know if this is true?

We have tornado out for this afternoon. Keep us in your prayers.

Richard Rowland

The more I read, the more I'm convinced that we humans who are supposed to be of the highest order, occupying the most enlighted age, can be convinced of just about anything. A poor heifer was sacrificed for what! Ignorance was responsible for that type of nonsense, in those times, there is no excuse for practicing that junk now.

I'm aware that practice is being considered. And how will this individual that is to have the benefit of the ashes, receive them? Will they be sprinkled on him/ her, or will they be rolled in 'em, as rolling flour for a pie crust?

By the way, what transpired to cause this ritual performance to be applied to the recipient, did someone copulate with a corpse? Inquiring minds want to know.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Oops. Husband, sorry...

Radiance3

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I think those Muslims who hate America, Christians, and Jews, must be sent bank to their Muslim countries. E.g. Omar, and Tlaib.

Please don't compare Jesus to Mohammad. Mohammad is a warrior and very violent. Mohammad killed thousands of people. Mohammad had many wives. Mohammad killed Jews and Christians. Muslims considered him their prophet. Muslim under Islam had killed 292 million Christians, Jews, and non-Muslims for 1400 yrs. RE: Tears of Jihad" by Dr. Bill Warner, Ph.D.

Ninety-nine percent (99%) of Muslims obey their god allah to kill the Christians, Jews, unless they convert.
Killing of infidels is one of the commandments of allah, their god. Here are some cmmandments.

The Qur’an tells us: “not to make friendship with Jews and Christians” (5:51), “kill the disbelievers wherever we find them” (2:191), “murder them and treat them harshly” (9:123), “fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem”

(9:5). The Qur’an demands that we fight the unbelievers, and promises “If there are twenty amongst you, you will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, you will vanquish a thousand of them” (8:65).

Allah and his messenger want us to fight the Christians and the Jews “until they pay the Jizya [a penalty tax for the non-Muslims living under Islamic rules] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued” (9:29).

The Qur’an takes away the freedom of belief from all humanity and relegates those who disbelieve in Islam to hell (5:10), calls them najis (filthy, untouchable, impure) (9:28), and orders its followers to fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left (2:193).

It says that the “non-believers will go to hell and will drink boiling water” (14:17). It asks the Muslims to “slay or crucify or cut the hands and feet of the unbelievers, that they be expelled from the land with disgrace and that they shall have a great punishment in world hereafter” (5:34).

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Jesus is a loving, forgiving, and merciful God.
Jesus is God, son of the father. They are considered One. We have the Holy Trinity: God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, One God forever and ever. Jesus came and lived among us to teach us the way to live. He is the light of the world. Then he died on the Cross, poured out His blood for us to wash away our sins. He left a Covenant with his Apostles and all of us by dying on the Cross. During the Last Supper with His disciples, he asked us to take His body and blood as our Covenant with Him. He said, "Do this in memory of me". (Lk. 22:19) Matthew 26:26-27; 1 Corinthians 11:24-26;Mark 14:22-24.

Today is Palm Sunday, the triumphal entry of Jesus into Jerusalem
n Matthew 21:1-11, Mark 11:1-11, Luke 19:28-44, and John 12:12-19, Jesus descends from the Mount of Olives towards Jerusalem, and the crowds lay their clothes on the ground to welcome him as he triumphantly enters Jerusalem.

They brought the donkey and the colt and put on them their cloaks, and he sat on them. ... the colt and Jesus rides into Jerusalem as the humble King (Zechariah 9:9). ... The people also cut down branches to lay before Jesus.

Christians celebrate Jesus' entry into Jerusalem as Palm Sunday, a week before Easter Sunday. The Risen Christ into the Father in heaven.

JW

Both, Christianity and Islam, are, for lack of a better term, Jewish cults. The primary difference between them is that Christianity was never meant to become separate from Judaism and Islam was intended to invalidate Judaism. Christianity was intended as a Jewish reform movement. Islam was intended to put an end to Judaism and the Jews.

Christianity became separate in the 300 years following Jesus and ultimately divorced from Judaism under Constantine when he co-opted the religion for a service faction of/to the Roman government.

The core beliefs of all three are from the Jewish writings so it is those beliefs that must govern in comparison. Christianity builds upon Judaism. Islam invalidates Judaism. Christianity follows Jewish scriptures and Islam opposes them.

If the definitions of Jehovah are the same in Christianity and Judaism and they predate Islam by almost a milennium, and Islam defines Allah quite differently from the description of Jehovah, how can you claim them to be the same God? Jehovah was well known by Muhammad's time. The Islamic characterization of God is very different from what had been the model for at least 4000 years before Muhammad.

If you want to argue that they are the same God then you must explain the fundamental differences in their behaviors/definitions and you must determine which one got it all wrong.

Bottom line, if one is wrong, then it is a fraud on its believers and is what the Bible calls an abomination. Jehovah or Allah, one represents God the other is an abomination... or the are modeled on two very different entities.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

I would need to see your argument for the descriptions of Jehovah and Allah being different...
In which ways?
From reading the OT and the Koran I find the descriptions of God remarkably similar...Which makes sense as the cultures were similar...

And how does Islam invalidate Judaism?
Or attempt to put an end to Judaism?

To my knowledge the Muslims believe that the Ketabe (People of the Book) are also followers of God and entitled to heaven...
It is Christianity that would deny both Judaism and Islam as a path to heaven...